Grizzlies Offense

[Wolfman]

Things are becoming very obvious in Grizland these days. I read esugar.com after the Oregon slaughter, and got my usual dose of amusement. Some of these sugar-coaters wouldn't admit the sky was falling if they were sucking in ionospere with every breath!

After watching the game in person, it is very apparent that Bobby's offense will be the worst in the Big Sky this season. In an ironic twist, our defense will be the best, although the Cats must have a pretty damned good defense this year too.

I predict that the Griz get beat next week by SDSU. It will take the reality of a loss to a team we had previously scheduled to pad our record, before some of the sugar-coaters admit that things are slipping away fast in Grizland.

The Hauck ship has a hole in it, and is taking on water. But, the ship's anchor, namely Rob Phenicie, is causing it to sink at a much greater rate.

The once great offenses of Don Read, Mick Dennehy, and Joe Glenn, are but a shell of their former self. We are now relegated to "deep handoff left, and deep handoff right". This team is just not fun to watch any longer, win or lose. The many years of dominance over the Bobcats is but a distant memory. The Cats will put a whoppin on us this year that will have Hauck popping anti-depressants for months.

I have been correct all along about Hauck, but few would admit it. However, they are now having twinges of knowing reality in the pit of their guts, as they watch this season go quickly down the sh*tter. The can kick me off their board. But, they can't deny the fact that I have been correct about Bobby all along.

[CelticCat]

I think you are being a little premature there Wolf. Trust me I would love to see the shiz humbled by a losing season (but not consecutive losing seasons) as much as the next guy, but your team hasn't played any opponents yet in which they match up somewhat close to evenly. If the griz DO lose to SDSU, and they fall to 1-2 (when is the last time that happened?), then I will agree with most of your points.

The griz deserve respect until proven otherwise, that is the tradition they have built. Whooping a DII team and losing badly to a good IA team doesn't prove otherwise in my book. Every year there are plenty of people who feel the griz will suck (including griz fans), but they always do well, and for that reason, I am not counting them out yet.

If the griz do lose to SDSU, I will be reading e-fizz all day long, tell you that much.

[Nick]

Things are becoming very obvious in Grizland these days. I read esugar.com after the Oregon slaughter, and got my usual dose of amusement. Some of these sugar-coaters wouldn't admit the sky was falling if they were sucking in ionospere with every breath!

After watching the game in person, it is very apparent that Bobby's offense will be the worst in the Big Sky this season. In an ironic twist, our defense will be the best, although the Cats must have a pretty damned good defense this year too.

I predict that the Griz get beat next week by SDSU. It will take the reality of a loss to a team we had previously scheduled to pad our record, before some of the sugar-coaters admit that things are slipping away fast in Grizland.

The Hauck ship has a hole in it, and is taking on water. But, the ship's anchor, namely Rob Phenicie, is causing it to sink at a much greater rate.

The once great offenses of Don Read, Mick Dennehy, and Joe Glenn, are but a shell of their former self. We are now relegated to "deep handoff left, and deep handoff right". This team is just not fun to watch any longer, win or lose. The many years of dominance over the Bobcats is but a distant memory. The Cats will put a whoppin on us this year that will have Hauck popping anti-depressants for months.

I have been correct all along about Hauck, but few would admit it. However, they are now having twinges of knowing reality in the pit of their guts, as they watch this season go quickly down the sh*tter. The can kick me off their board. But, they can't deny the fact that I have been correct about Bobby all along.

Wolf,
I've never responded to you before. I watched the circus that was your time on eGriz with some amusement and actually enjoyed a few of your posts. You, are, however, the epitome of a bandwagon fan no matter what team you root for. Why would "the sky be falling" after one loss to a very good I-A Pac 10 program? Find me one example post of a Griz fan saying it's all over. The Griz played well against Oregon today, especially the defense, and the Ducks ran away with it at the end because they have much better depth, skill, and hey the ball just bounced their way quite a few times today. This reminded me very much of the Hawaii game in 2001 where Montana was able to hang for a while in a defensive match, but Hawaii pulled away on some big plays. The Griz as you know won the national title that year and only put 12 points on the board against Hawaii, who wasn't half as good as these Ducks the Griz faced today. I am in no way worried about the offense because it is the start of the season, nothing Griz fans haven't seen before and weathered.

Thank god you left eGriz -- and it's only a matter of time before even the CatNation doesn't invite you back.

[MSU01]

Thank god you left eGriz -- and it's only a matter of time before even the CatNation doesn't invite you back.

Nah, I don't think so...people who tell us that the Griz stink are pretty welcome around here most of the time.

[El_Gato]

I'm going to echo CC; too early to tell (see other posts) about this Griz team. If your prediction comes true, wolfman, then I'm afraid 7-4 is out of reach.

You are wrong on one point, wolf, as the Bobcats (sans injuries) will regain their traditional position as the #1 defense in the Sky. "Bend but don't break" may be a Griz trademark on D, but those types generally lose the big games.

Nick, I know you're young, but you've really GOT to get a clue. The Griz DID NOT PLAY WELL YESTERDAY. You scored one touchdown because of a deep turnover combined with a terrible play by an Oregon DB and your other came against the Ducks 3rd string and the game was OVER. If you want to hang your hat on forcing the Ducks to kick 6 field goals, be my guest; the point is they punted twice in the game. As I said above, bend, don't break defenses choke when the stakes are highest because you can't consistently give the other team the chance to score and continue to dodge that bullet, and YOU WON'T. Certainly not against EWU or MSU.

I'm not saying the Griz suck or that you won't be a factor in the Big Sky, Nick; just wake up and admit you got STOMPED yesterday. I was hoping even the staunchest griz fan (especially those who said the Griz would win! LMAO) would realize the HUGE disparity between a good IA team and the Griz, especially with all the key ?'s the Griz have in 2005.

Next week will reveal another chapter; all I will say is that another Cat win will spell big trouble for the rest of the Sky, regardless of the Griz' result...

[Nick]

I'm going to echo CC; too early to tell (see other posts) about this Griz team. If your prediction comes true, wolfman, then I'm afraid 7-4 is out of reach.

You are wrong on one point, wolf, as the Bobcats (sans injuries) will regain their traditional position as the #1 defense in the Sky. "Bend but don't break" may be a Griz trademark on D, but those types generally lose the big games.

Nick, I know you're young, but you've really GOT to get a clue. The Griz DID NOT PLAY WELL YESTERDAY. You scored one touchdown because of a deep turnover combined with a terrible play by an Oregon DB and your other came against the Ducks 3rd string and the game was OVER. If you want to hang your hat on forcing the Ducks to kick 6 field goals, be my guest; the point is they punted twice in the game. As I said above, bend, don't break defenses choke when the stakes are highest because you can't consistently give the other team the chance to score and continue to dodge that bullet, and YOU WON'T. Certainly not against EWU or MSU.

I'm not saying the Griz suck or that you won't be a factor in the Big Sky, Nick; just wake up and admit you got STOMPED yesterday. I was hoping even the staunchest griz fan (especially those who said the Griz would win! LMAO) would realize the HUGE disparity between a good IA team and the Griz, especially with all the key ?'s the Griz have in 2005.

Next week will reveal another chapter; all I will say is that another Cat win will spell big trouble for the rest of the Sky, regardless of the Griz' result...

"I realize you are young but you have got to get a clue" -- That was a nice try but you really don't listen to anyone on a board but yourself.

EG You obviously need to read my post again and GET A CLUE. I did not say the Griz didn't get dominated yesterday, and I didn't try to say that the Griz played well -- all I said was that one game against a very good I-A opponent is not indicative of the Grizzlies' season. I also compared a game against a less than stellar I-A team from 2001 to put things into perspective. We have yet to see what the Cats are really like too -- two or three weeks doesn't determine your season, just look at Bobcat history of the last ten years. I did realize the huge disparity between the teams and mentioned that, a fact that you happily ignored because you seem to like the idea that you think you know everything.

By the way the Griz D did have something to hang its hat on yesterday. Consider one of the scores was a kickoff return, and the fact that three or four of the Ducks' drives amounted to about 25 yards. That's obviously not a good turnover stat for offense but it does say some more about the defense. I wonder if you actually watched the game, otherwise there is no way you would understand.

[El_Gato]

...The Griz played well against Oregon today,...

Followed up by:

...and I didn't try to say that the Griz played well...

The problem apparently, Nick, is that I ACTUALLY DO pay attention to what is said.

I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting you're posts, but I believe they speak for themselves. First you say the Griz played well, then you say you didn't say that...


I'm sorry, but I'm too dizzy to continue...

[El_Gato]

...By the way the Griz D did have something to hang its hat on yesterday. Consider one of the scores was a kickoff return, and the fact that three or four of the Ducks' drives amounted to about 25 yards. That's obviously not a good turnover stat for offense but it does say some more about the defense. I wonder if you actually watched the game, otherwise there is no way you would understand.

I only need to see that you forced exactly TWO punts to know how your D played overall...

And by the way, Nick, all I'm talking about is yesterday's game. I don't think I've made any concrete predictions about where the Cats OR the Griz will end the season (except that I AM predicting that the Griz WILL NOT win the conference outright and I'll stand by that).

[Wolfman]

Nick, you obviously haven't read too many of my past posts. Bandwagon fan? Give me a break, man. I have been telling the world ever since Hauck arrived that he would lead the Griz down the #2 hole. And, he is in the process of doing just that.

If you think that the Griz played well against Oregon, then you may want to spend your Saturday's doing some "non-football" activities.

Yeah, our defense played VERY well last Saturday. I was very proud of them. However, our offense more than made up for anything good the defense did.

Face the facts. If we remove the yardage that Berquist made versus the Oregon third-team scrubbinines, the Griz had about 90 yards of total offense. Worse yet, it you take away the 40 yard TD "hail Mary" pass to Talmage, they had about 50 yards of offense. Could it be any more embarrassing?

Every other Big Sky team who played a IA school made a decent showing, except the Griz. I was embarrassed at our offense. I heard Oregon fans laughing at how inept our offense was. The worst thing is, they were RIGHT!

I stand firmly by my prediction of a Griz loss to SDSU this weekend. The only thing which will save them is if the defense pitches a near-shutout, or scores a couple of defensive TDs. Our offense will continue to look like a private high school's offense.

Remember, you heard it here, from a big Griz fan, who is sick to death at what is happening to his beloved team!

[Robcat]

The Griz may be struggling at this point, but I do not believe they are down for the count. Next weeks game will be the true test for the Grizzlies. If they win that game, the Griz will be their usual tough team in the Big Sky. Any team acn beat any other team on any given Saturday in the Big Sky, however I predict that the 3 top teams in the Big Sky will be MSU, EWU and UM, in that order.

[El_Gato]

I think based on Saturday, you have to throw ISU in the mix as well.

As usual, the Bengals have some athletes and will be a threat to knock off ANY Big Sky team.

Hopefully, they'll self-destruct (as they have a habit of doing) on October 1. Plus I hope the refs don't decide to screw us out of another win this year...

[tailbone]

.......
I stand firmly by my prediction of a Griz loss to SDSU this weekend.
Remember, you heard it here, from a big Griz fan, who is sick ......

Poor Wolfman, wrong again!

[tailbone]

...... bend, don't break defenses choke when the stakes are highest because you can't consistently give the other team the chance to score and continue to dodge that bullet, and YOU WON'T. Certainly not against EWU or MSU....

Ummmm, Actually, recent history (2004) would imply otherwise.
But hey, don't let facts mess up an otherwise good theory!

[Hell's Bells]

...... bend, don't break defenses choke when the stakes are highest because you can't consistently give the other team the chance to score and continue to dodge that bullet, and YOU WON'T. Certainly not against EWU or MSU....

Ummmm, Actually, recent history (2004) would imply otherwise.
But hey, don't let facts mess up an otherwise good theory!

just ask jim kelly how his bend but dont break d worked out in the super bowl...or maby craig oachs.....not intended as smack mind you

[jagur1]

Could ask New England that same thing?

[tetoncat]

Tailbone;
"The only thing which will save them is if the defense pitches a near-shutout, or scores a couple of defensive TDs. Our offense will continue to look like a private high school's offense. "

This is from Wolfman's text. You only included the part about losing. It appears that he was correct in that the defense did save the Griz. Without the shutout they lose.

[tailbone]

.........
I stand firmly by my prediction of a Griz loss to SDSU this weekend. (That big red dot is a period) The only thing which will save them is if the defense pitches a near-shutout, or scores a couple of defensive TDs. Our offense will continue to look like a private high school's offense.

Wolfman is famous for his pessimistic prognostications, always accompanied by a weasel clause.
That way he never has to be wrong.

But you are correct, defense did save the Griz.
I hope that will not be the theme for this year.

[Wolfman]

Tailboner, I might not have been correct in my prediction that the Griz would lose to SDSU, but I was damned near correct, unlike guys like you would predicted a Griz blowout. Save for a blown non-call on obviouis pass interference, the game would have gone into OT tied 7-7, and your butt would have been puckered tighter than a space shuttle 0-ring.

It's my over-all season predictions that you should be concerned about. Hauck is taking this program down, in case you don't have eyes. The Griz will loses a minimum of four games. I've got the bandwagon gassed-up and ready for guys like you.

[spider]

You have got to admit that Wolfman's posts are usually pretty funny.

Tailboner

Tighter than a Space shuttle O-Ring