U of M- PSU

[CelticCat]

The griz offense is still piss poor.

That "piss poor offense" didn't do too bad against PSU today.

How'd your offense do against them...where it counts?

I think we had about 600 yards of offense against PSU. just a little under our average.

And how did that work out for the cats??

If you seriously, in all honesty think that the reason the Cats lost that game was because of our offense, you know less about football than a 2 year old.

I thought it was obvious. My point was it doesn’t matter what your offense does if your opponent scores more points. Your offense did fine. The deference was we controlled the whole game! Wouldn’t it be nice in TL didn’t have to carry the whole weight of the world on his shoulders. It’s tough being a one man show. The cats will be sitting home again this year because there is no way you beat either Eastern or the Griz playing that poorly.

We might not be able to beat EWU scoring 41 points, but the Griz haven't scored more than 32 meaningful points all year. I say meaningful because Ft. Lewis doesn't count, and you scored with something like 30 seconds left against Cal Poly and 1:40 left vs PSU. I might grant the PSU one. I'm not saying we will beat the Griz by any means, but if it comes down to a shootout I like our chances a little better.

[Eastcoastgriz]

We might not be able to beat EWU scoring 41 points, but the Griz haven't scored more than 32 meaningful points all year. I say meaningful because Ft. Lewis doesn't count, and you scored with something like 30 seconds left against Cal Poly and 1:40 left vs PSU. I might grant the PSU one. I'm not saying we will beat the Griz by any means, but if it comes down to a shootout I like our chances a little better.

Our defense isn't going to let it be a shootout. Your defense hasn’t shown it can stop any conference team from scoring and ours has. I'm predicting a score in the nationhood of 33-21 GRIZ

[CelticCat]

I'm not predicting anything with 2 games before Cat/Griz.

[elkmcc]

I think MSU would have a decent shot at beating the Griz this year if they can figure out how to stop the run on defense. They would also need some semblance of a running game beyond Mr. Lulay. UM will control the clock with its running game, and for a lack of having to defend against the run the Griz D will be all over Lulay. The weather more than likely will inhibit the passing game, which again favors the Griz.

If it were any other team in the country I would say the Griz should win this one hands down. The Lulay factor however changes all of that. The red head is a magician (and also very fun to watch btw). I hope he is 100% come Griz/Cat day.

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

You jizzlies seem to conveniently forget that you played at home and we played against them on the road. I don't think you guys would be singing the same tune had your game been played in Portland this past weekend.

Speaking only for myself, I can say I didn't "conveniently forget" anything about where the game was played.

It's pretty much been said, ad-nauseum, that the Griz have a 14 point advantage when playing a game at Washington/Grizzly...OK, fine, and it's understandable.

With the score of yesterday's game as a reference point, let's say the game was played in Portland, and the 14 point advantage is negated by the change in venue. Doesn't that mean that the Griz still beat the Vikings by a TD?

Sounds like the same song to me.

The same song? You simply offered up a hypothetical situation. Not only is the 14 points in your situation negated, but don't forget the advantage of what home turf would have for them. I would bet there wouldn't have been an INT return for a TD either. Throw out all that and the score is quite different. Of course, I'm only copying your hypothetical situation.

Your fan base is back to its usual arrogance. I look forward to seeing how you perform on the road and away from Dennis Washington sponsored stadium.

[anacondagriz]

You jizzlies seem to conveniently forget that you played at home and we played against them on the road. I don't think you guys would be singing the same tune had your game been played in Portland this past weekend.

Speaking only for myself, I can say I didn't "conveniently forget" anything about where the game was played.

It's pretty much been said, ad-nauseum, that the Griz have a 14 point advantage when playing a game at Washington/Grizzly...OK, fine, and it's understandable.

With the score of yesterday's game as a reference point, let's say the game was played in Portland, and the 14 point advantage is negated by the change in venue. Doesn't that mean that the Griz still beat the Vikings by a TD?

Sounds like the same song to me.

The same song? You simply offered up a hypothetical situation. Not only is the 14 points in your situation negated, but don't forget the advantage of what home turf would have for them. I would bet there wouldn't have been an INT return for a TD either. Throw out all that and the score is quite different. Of course, I'm only copying your hypothetical situation.

Your fan base is back to its usual arrogance. I look forward to seeing how you perform on the road and away from Dennis Washington sponsored stadium.

Why does the frat boy seem so bothered by the fact that Dennis Washington paid to have the stadium built?

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

You jizzlies seem to conveniently forget that you played at home and we played against them on the road. I don't think you guys would be singing the same tune had your game been played in Portland this past weekend.

Speaking only for myself, I can say I didn't "conveniently forget" anything about where the game was played.

It's pretty much been said, ad-nauseum, that the Griz have a 14 point advantage when playing a game at Washington/Grizzly...OK, fine, and it's understandable.

With the score of yesterday's game as a reference point, let's say the game was played in Portland, and the 14 point advantage is negated by the change in venue. Doesn't that mean that the Griz still beat the Vikings by a TD?

Sounds like the same song to me.

The same song? You simply offered up a hypothetical situation. Not only is the 14 points in your situation negated, but don't forget the advantage of what home turf would have for them. I would bet there wouldn't have been an INT return for a TD either. Throw out all that and the score is quite different. Of course, I'm only copying your hypothetical situation.

Your fan base is back to its usual arrogance. I look forward to seeing how you perform on the road and away from Dennis Washington sponsored stadium.

Why does the frat boy seem so bothered by the fact that Dennis Washington paid to have the stadium built?

Gosh, if I were paid everytime someone made a comment about my username. Idiocy rears its head again. I suppose if your IQ reaches the current temperature in Anaconda, then maybe I'll continue communicating with you. Until then, you should just STFU......

Outside of how I phrased the name of your stadium, can you tell me where there is any falsehood in its name?

[BWahlberg]

Stats for UM were poor to average at best. 160 yards passing and Lex had 75 yards. The griz have not thrown for 200 yards yet this year (maybe EWU after the game was all but over) and Lex has only had one big game. The griz offense is still piss poor. Defense, returns and turnovers have saved the day this year.

Griz also passed for 220 as a team against Ft. Lewis. Yeah, I know, I know.

We're a running team this year, Lex has 917 yards this year and averages 114.6 per game with 9 TDs which is MORE than Lulay, Domineck and Bass together!!! He's also got 1 more rushing TD than the entire MSU team!

Also Gtapp, defense wins championships, how's MSU's D this year?

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

Stats for UM were poor to average at best. 160 yards passing and Lex had 75 yards. The griz have not thrown for 200 yards yet this year (maybe EWU after the game was all but over) and Lex has only had one big game. The griz offense is still piss poor. Defense, returns and turnovers have saved the day this year.

Griz also passed for 220 as a team against Ft. Lewis. Yeah, I know, I know.

We're a running team this year, Lex has 917 yards this year and averages 114.6 per game with 9 TDs which is MORE than Lulay, Domineck and Bass together!!! He's also got 1 more rushing TD than the entire MSU team!

Also Gtapp, defense wins championships, how's MSU's D this year?

MSU's defense has been very unpredictable. Fortunately, we are 5-3 with only one lopsided loss. All losses have been on the road.

The griz are shining left and right and pulling games out despite not being too impressive on the offensive side of the ball. When 6 out of your first 8 games are played in the confines of your home stadium, it's no surprise the griz are doing so well. What's sad is a select few pathetic fans of yours continue to ridicule the performances of their in-state rivals.

To beat the Cats, all you need to do is shut down Lulay. To beat the griz this year, all you have to do is shut down Lex. The strengths of the 2 Montana teams seem to be opposite. We have an explosive offense and the griz have shown themselves to be pretty solid defensively.

[Grizomatic]

The same song? You simply offered up a hypothetical situation. Not only is the 14 points in your situation negated, but don't forget the advantage of what home turf would have for them. I would bet there wouldn't have been an INT return for a TD either. Throw out all that and the score is quite different. Of course, I'm only copying your hypothetical situation.

Your fan base is back to its usual arrogance. I look forward to seeing how you perform on the road and away from Dennis Washington sponsored stadium.

Yep, the same song.

Didn't you offer a hypothetical question in your initial post, and follow it up with at least 2 "hypothetical situations" in your response, with a disclaimer that you were only coping the "situations" that I mentioned?

No pissing match, or arrogance intended, but I'm happy for the Cats when they win...unless it's a Griz/Cat game, and I'm pretty sure that all my posts here, and on other boards, show that sentiment.

[lifeloyalsigmsu]

The same song? You simply offered up a hypothetical situation. Not only is the 14 points in your situation negated, but don't forget the advantage of what home turf would have for them. I would bet there wouldn't have been an INT return for a TD either. Throw out all that and the score is quite different. Of course, I'm only copying your hypothetical situation.

Your fan base is back to its usual arrogance. I look forward to seeing how you perform on the road and away from Dennis Washington sponsored stadium.

Yep, the same song.

Didn't you offer a hypothetical question in your initial post, and follow it up with at least 2 "hypothetical situations" in your response, with a disclaimer that you were only coping the "situations" that I mentioned?

No pissing match, or arrogance intended, but I'm happy for the Cats when they win...unless it's a Griz/Cat game, and I'm pretty sure that all my posts here, and on other boards, show that sentiment.

Are you that dense? It's almost a guarantee that no team will play their opponent as well on the road. That's NOT a hypothetical situation. IF you've watched any football in your lifetime, you'd see that there's a lot of truth in that.

My words after that were just a response to your pontifications on an automatic 14 points for the jizz at home. I have no disagreement with that. My hypothetical situation was that the score wouldn't be near the same had the same game been played in Portland. Some fellow fans of yours seem to be deriding the Cats on their loss IN PORTLAND and rubbing it in.

I'm focusing on the fact that you guys have been coddled with a beautiful home schedule so far this year. The post wasn't originally addressed towards you to begin with but you jumped in to offer your drivel.

[Hell's Bells]

The griz offense is still piss poor.

That "piss poor offense" didn't do too bad against PSU today.

How'd your offense do against them...where it counts?

I think we had about 600 yards of offense against PSU. just a little under our average.

And how did that work out for the cats??

If you seriously, in all honesty think that the reason the Cats lost that game was because of our offense, you know less about football than a 2 year old.

I thought it was obvious. My point was it doesn’t matter what your offense does if your opponent scores more points. Your offense did fine. The deference was we controlled the whole game! Wouldn’t it be nice in TL didn’t have to carry the whole weight of the world on his shoulders. It’s tough being a one man show. The cats will be sitting home again this year because there is no way you beat either Eastern or the Griz playing that poorly.

1) fumble on 5 yard line after FIRST PLAY OF THE GAME - negated 7 points

2) fumble by d linemen after a fumble my a nau player - returned to same damn 5 yard line *i think its cursed* fumbled and picked up my nau hb sanchez for a first down but worse field posation then the msu 49

3) gatewood dropped a td reception from lulay - fg good theres another 4 for ya

hmm lets see there is about 18 points there by half therefore making the score 40-0 at half if we had our head in the game

guys...lets face it - we almost beat ourselves that game

[Scrogger]

The griz offense is still piss poor.

That "piss poor offense" didn't do too bad against PSU today.

How'd your offense do against them...where it counts?

I think we had about 600 yards of offense against PSU. just a little under our average.

The Cats are averaging 600 yds per game I guess the published stats must be wrong:

Total O: Cats 374 yards per game; Griz 344
Pass O: Cats 254; Griz 174
Rush O: Cats 120; Griz 173
Scoring: Cats 26; Griz 28

Looks as if the "O" is pretty similar in total yardage only that the Cats produce theirs through the air and the Griz Balanced.

[Grizlaw]

To beat the griz this year, all you have to do is shut down Lex.

Not to be unnecessarily argumentative, but wasn't somebody else on this thread talking smack about Lex only having 75 yards rushing this week? And didn't we still wax PSU?

--GL

[Grizomatic]

Are you that dense? It's almost a guarantee that no team will play their opponent as well on the road. That's NOT a hypothetical situation. IF you've watched any football in your lifetime, you'd see that there's a lot of truth in that.

My words after that were just a response to your pontifications on an automatic 14 points for the jizz at home. I have no disagreement with that. My hypothetical situation was that the score wouldn't be near the same had the same game been played in Portland. Some fellow fans of yours seem to be deriding the Cats on their loss IN PORTLAND and rubbing it in.

I'm focusing on the fact that you guys have been coddled with a beautiful home schedule so far this year. The post wasn't originally addressed towards you to begin with but you jumped in to offer your drivel.

At times, yes, I am that dense. To prove that, I'll say I'd have a pretty hard time believing that the Cats could have played PSU any better than they did no matter where the game was played. Your offense was on fire, and I thought Lulay would pull out another one. With the numbers the Bobcats put up in that game, and the way they played, my denseness causes me to believe that the venue was a non-issue. As I said in another post, it was the best game I've seen in a long, long time, and it's too bad you lost. I didn't find any joy it it at all other than seeing a good football game.

Was playing PSU in Washington/Grizzly a huge factor in our victory? Absolutely. Anyone that thinks otherwise is more dense than I am, and I can guarantee that they've seen far fewer football games than I have.

For now, our days of being coddled at home are over, and we shall see how we do on the road.

That's all the pontificating drivel for now.