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Post by Grizlaw » Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:34 pm

spider wrote:If I remember, UM can be held liable for intentional torts committed by Monte (Respondeat Superior). It will be more difficult to impose respondeat superior in an intentional torts case, but I'm almost positive it can be done.

Is Monte and employee of the University? What does the general public believe? I don't know. It certainly could be argued that the tort was committed in the course of Monte's employment.
I actually don't know whether Monte is technically an employee of the University; that's another interesting legal question. Let's assume he is, though, just for the sake of this discussion...

I'm a few years removed from this material, but the point I'm trying to get at is that, as I recall, in order to hold the University vicariously liable for an intentional tort committed by an employee, the plaintiff has to show that the commission of the tort was within the scope of the employee's duties. This is why, going back to the example I used earlier, a bar owner can be held liable if a bouncer beats up a patron in his bar but, for example, an owner of a furniture store would not be liable if one of his delivery men beat up a guy that he encountered while out delivering furniture. The bouncer's job demands that he get into the occasional scuffle, and thus, if he goes a little overboard, the bar owner can be held liable. That's not true of the furniture delivery guy, or of Monte.

Vicarious liability for an employee's negligent acts carries a lower standard, and thus, the University probably could be held vicariously liable for Monte's negligence if it can be proven that he acted negligently, but I think arguing that UM should be held vicariously liable for battery is a tough sell here.


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Post by spider » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:05 pm

Grizlaw wrote: I actually don't know whether Monte is technically an employee of the University; that's another interesting legal question. Let's assume he is, though, just for the sake of this discussion...

I'm a few years removed from this material, but the point I'm trying to get at is that, as I recall, in order to hold the University vicariously liable for an intentional tort committed by an employee, the plaintiff has to show that the commission of the tort was within the scope of the employee's duties. This is why, going back to the example I used earlier, a bar owner can be held liable if a bouncer beats up a patron in his bar but, for example, an owner of a furniture store would not be liable if one of his delivery men beat up a guy that he encountered while out delivering furniture. The bouncer's job demands that he get into the occasional scuffle, and thus, if he goes a little overboard, the bar owner can be held liable. That's not true of the furniture delivery guy, or of Monte.

Vicarious liability for an employee's negligent acts carries a lower standard, and thus, the University probably could be held vicariously liable for Monte's negligence if it can be proven that he acted negligently, but I think arguing that UM should be held vicariously liable for battery is a tough sell here.
It is a tough sell, but could be done. The bouncer example is what prompted me to write "in the course of employment". It could be argued that "congratulating" a contest winner is within the scope (or course) of Monte's employment. Monte occasionally has physical contact with fans and contest winners. In this case he went overboard.

Yeah it is a stretch, but I would definitely include it in my pleading.



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Post by Grizlaw » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:15 pm

spider wrote:Yeah it is a stretch, but I would definitely include it in my pleading.
Oh, if the question is just whether or not it should be included in the pleading, I agree wholeheartedly. I'm no plaintiff's attorney, but I know the rules: always sue as many people as possible under every legal theory you can think of. ;) (Unless there's a reason not to include something, like a desire not to open the door to certain evidence you don't want the jury to hear -- probably not a factor here, though.)

Anyway, I think we're on the same page: yes, it's an argument that could be made, but it's not the one I would expect to win with.


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Post by coachouert » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:19 pm

To Grizlaw and Spider and anyone else for that matter...do you actually think this will ever see the inside of a courtroom? I have a hard time seeing it ever actually get to the trial portion but would expect a small settlement from the university if anything at all. I could also see UM and Monte come out swinging and this guy to back down as well. Thoughts?


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Post by spider » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:32 pm

coachouert wrote:To Grizlaw and Spider and anyone else for that matter...do you actually think this will ever see the inside of a courtroom? I have a hard time seeing it ever actually get to the trial portion but would expect a small settlement from the university if anything at all. I could also see UM and Monte come out swinging and this guy to back down as well. Thoughts?
About 90% of lawsuits never make it to trial. I doubt this one will be tried. The plaintiff's attorney hinted that he wanted a settlement. We'll see.



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Post by Grizlaw » Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:43 pm

spider wrote:
coachouert wrote:To Grizlaw and Spider and anyone else for that matter...do you actually think this will ever see the inside of a courtroom? I have a hard time seeing it ever actually get to the trial portion but would expect a small settlement from the university if anything at all. I could also see UM and Monte come out swinging and this guy to back down as well. Thoughts?
About 90% of lawsuits never make it to trial. I doubt this one will be tried. The plaintiff's attorney hinted that he wanted a settlement. We'll see.
Agreed -- probably won't go to trial. I could see something like this going to mediation or some other form of alternative dispute resolution, and then probably settling. Litigation is expensive, and I'm sure nobody wants to pay for it.

Having said that, though, there are a lot of facts missing from the article, and depending on the actual circumstances, certain factors could make a trial more likely. The article doesn't say anything about the actual extent of the guy's injuries. If we assume that he has a legitimate injury, and some evidence that establishes that this incident caused it, then I would think UM would be more likely to settle. On the other hand, if his injuries are very serious, then that could cut either way -- UM may want to settle low to limit its exposure, and the plaintiff might feel he has more of an incentive to fight.

At the other end of the spectrum, if the plaintiff's evidence is really weak and UM's lawyers feel that it's just a nuisance suit, then they may dig in their heels and refuse to pay any settlement, even if paying a small settlement to make it go away would be cheaper than litigating.

But all of that aside -- as spider said, the percentage of lawsuits that actually go to trial is very small, so the smart money says this one probably won't.


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