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lifeloyalsigmsu
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by lifeloyalsigmsu » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:48 pm
Grizlaw wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:You talk of "one-upping" people. Your chiming in on this thread demonstrates, once again, that you're doing the same.
As for the term victim or survivor regarding cancer, that's a very broad statement. Everyone with cancer is a victim. A victim can become a survivor if they "beat" cancer. However, those who have their remissions reverse can once again become a victim.
Cancer often comes back so the term victim versus survivor is very vague with such a horrible disease.
This will be my last post, so this thread can die its rightful death.
I wasn't actually trying to "one-up" papa with my post; I was only trying to illustrate the point that shaker had made (and which papa was mocking him for in his post). I realize the terms "cancer victim" and "cancer survivor" are vague, but people who are close to others who have suffered from the disease tend to be sensitive about the distinction. Seeing the distinction get jokingly compared with the terms "gunshot victim" and "rape victim" struck a nerve with me. That's all...
GL, it strikes a nerve with me as well so, in some way, we can probably relate our reasons. Don't take my prior post as biting your head off either. That wasn't the intention though (now that I reread it) it would appear the other way around.
PapaG's a good guy with opinions I respect.
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by PapaG » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:50 pm
Seeing the distinction get jokingly compared with the terms "gunshot victim" and "rape victim" struck a nerve with me. That's all...
I wasn't "jokingly" comparing the terms. Rape isn't a joking matter, yet there are victims of this crime who survive. That was my point, but in your haste to criticize me, you missed that point completely. "Victim" was the word being discussed.
Your dismissing of my commentary as a joke was a dead give away as to your own bias in this disagreement. Not a good sign.
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by PapaG » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:53 pm
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Grizlaw wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:You talk of "one-upping" people. Your chiming in on this thread demonstrates, once again, that you're doing the same.
As for the term victim or survivor regarding cancer, that's a very broad statement. Everyone with cancer is a victim. A victim can become a survivor if they "beat" cancer. However, those who have their remissions reverse can once again become a victim.
Cancer often comes back so the term victim versus survivor is very vague with such a horrible disease.
This will be my last post, so this thread can die its rightful death.
I wasn't actually trying to "one-up" papa with my post; I was only trying to illustrate the point that shaker had made (and which papa was mocking him for in his post). I realize the terms "cancer victim" and "cancer survivor" are vague, but people who are close to others who have suffered from the disease tend to be sensitive about the distinction. Seeing the distinction get jokingly compared with the terms "gunshot victim" and "rape victim" struck a nerve with me. That's all...
GL, it strikes a nerve with me as well so, in some way, we can probably relate our reasons. Don't take my prior post as biting your head off either. That wasn't the intention though (now that I reread it) it would appear the other way around.
PapaG's a good guy with opinions I respect.
I'm wondering how anything I wrote "struck a nerve" in you? I in no way thought I posted anything inappropriate. I will say that Grizlaw has posted personal attacks directed at me before, so I take anything he posts in response to what I say with that in mind.
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lifeloyalsigmsu
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by lifeloyalsigmsu » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:57 pm
PapaG wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Grizlaw wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:You talk of "one-upping" people. Your chiming in on this thread demonstrates, once again, that you're doing the same.
As for the term victim or survivor regarding cancer, that's a very broad statement. Everyone with cancer is a victim. A victim can become a survivor if they "beat" cancer. However, those who have their remissions reverse can once again become a victim.
Cancer often comes back so the term victim versus survivor is very vague with such a horrible disease.
This will be my last post, so this thread can die its rightful death.
I wasn't actually trying to "one-up" papa with my post; I was only trying to illustrate the point that shaker had made (and which papa was mocking him for in his post). I realize the terms "cancer victim" and "cancer survivor" are vague, but people who are close to others who have suffered from the disease tend to be sensitive about the distinction. Seeing the distinction get jokingly compared with the terms "gunshot victim" and "rape victim" struck a nerve with me. That's all...
GL, it strikes a nerve with me as well so, in some way, we can probably relate our reasons. Don't take my prior post as biting your head off either. That wasn't the intention though (now that I reread it) it would appear the other way around.
PapaG's a good guy with opinions I respect.
I'm wondering how anything I wrote "struck a nerve" in you? I in no way thought I posted anything inappropriate. I will say that Grizlaw has posted personal attacks directed at me before, so I take anything he posts in response to what I say with that in mind.
I wasn't referring to you PapaG. I was referring to the terms you were arguing about. My thoughts are purely in line with yours.
I was referring to the terms with regards to cancer and what my sister is currently going through (current she's in remission). My post wasn't directed towards you in any way. I'm on your side

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by PapaG » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:18 pm
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:I wasn't referring to you PapaG. I was referring to the terms you were arguing about. My thoughts are purely in line with yours.
I was referring to the terms with regards to cancer and what my sister is currently going through (current she's in remission). My post wasn't directed towards you in any way. I'm on your side

I'm sorry about your sister. Hopefully (obviously) it stays in remission. I don't know if you ever met him, but a certain guy named (initials) BC from Billings went through a similar ordeal a decade ago. Now he's married with kids, or at least he was as of a month ago.
As for this thread? A train wreck.

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by lifeloyalsigmsu » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:32 pm
PapaG wrote:lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:I wasn't referring to you PapaG. I was referring to the terms you were arguing about. My thoughts are purely in line with yours.
I was referring to the terms with regards to cancer and what my sister is currently going through (current she's in remission). My post wasn't directed towards you in any way. I'm on your side

I'm sorry about your sister. Hopefully (obviously) it stays in remission. I don't know if you ever met him, but a certain guy named (initials) BC from Billings went through a similar ordeal a decade ago. Now he's married with kids, or at least he was as of a month ago.
As for this thread? A train wreck.

Yeah, I know BC. I met him shortly after his ordeal was over. It's great to hear he's doing well and now has kids.
"One of the greatest delusions in the world is the hope that the evils in this world are to be cured by legislation." --Thomas Reed
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by Shakermaker » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:52 pm
PapaG wrote:Shakermaker wrote:
Cancer victim???
Victim usually means one is dead. I'd like to think of him as a surviver since he was beating away on the pegan skins last month... on national television.
I'll let you in on the big joke. This whole topic of Larry jumping ship is nothing but obvious drivel. Of course he'll move on to bigger and better things. I just love how everyone "heard, knows, or has it from a good source" (and on egriz as well, not just here) of Larry's future plans.
I simply tossed in the drummer joke because it was about as accurate as all the wanton/wishfull speculation (at least from a bobcat's perspective... dreamers all of you

). Why I picked the Stones I don't know. I just did. Would you have been more comfortable with a comment refering to Krysko replacing the guitarist in Pantera... I hear they're in need of one since their guitarist was the "victim" of a gunshot wound.
So a rape victim is always dead? And a molestation victim always dies as well? A mugging victim always end up six feet under?
Interesting.
Also, I posted that there are no Pac 10 openings for Krysko and that he may well like staying in Missoula.
Nice flail on the "smart one" quote. A victim doesn't always die.
LOL
Yeah, well in the case of Charlie Watts I'd have to point out that he is living, thus being a survivor... not a victim, but tell me, how many "Rape Victims" are refered to as rape survivors. None. You know the English language is a funny beast.
Nice try on his behalf... LOL
Now lets get back on topic... I'm done with this one. This topic has fallen "victim" to yet another off topic rant brought to you by, PapaG.
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by MaZooLaGriz » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:09 am
Shakermaker wrote:I heard he was going to replace the drummer in the Rolling Stones.
Replace Charlie Watts? Tell me it ain't so!

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