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Post by TomCat88 » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:40 am

Skyview knocked off third seed HHS, so they'll play at Bozeman next week. Bozeman beat Sentinel 42-17, but went scoreless in the second quarter and got 14 of its points off returns by the defense.

Glacier beat Butte 62-55 and will host the winner of today's CMR-Capital game.


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Post by John K » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:03 am

TomCat88 wrote:Skyview knocked off third seed HHS, so they'll play at Bozeman next week. Bozeman beat Sentinel 42-17, but went scoreless in the second quarter and got 14 of its points off returns by the defense.

Glacier beat Butte 62-55 and will host the winner of today's CMR-Capital game.
That was a huge break for CMR, with Skyview beating Helena High, allowing them to avoid Bozeman in the semi-finals. They should have a good chance of beating Glacier to reach the title game. I think they're playing better than anyone in AA now, except for Bozeman. When was the last time neither Helena school was in the semi-finals? It's probably been quite a few years.



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Re: AA Playoffs

Post by drider64 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:18 pm

The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.



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drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.


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tdub wrote:
drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.
Is he a legitimate BSC caliber prospect?



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Post by drider64 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:16 am

He has a very quick release but I couldn't really tell about his accuracy. I have only seen the one game. Many of his short passes were dropped by his receivers and his long passes were either over-thrown or intercepted. The hard thing about watching any of these athletes is basing an opinion on just one game. If I had another game or two to watch i would have a better opinion. I tend to enjoy watching the smaller quarterbacks because of their mobility. One of my sons played with Brock Osweiler so I watched many of his games. I really was surprised about him going to Arizona State. Other than height, his throwing motion and accuracy were average at best. He had some great receivers on his side as well.

I always hope that some of the Montana high school athletes to get a chance at some bigger schools and because of the things you can't teach (i.e height), I believe he will get his chance.



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John K wrote:
tdub wrote:
drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.
Is he a legitimate BSC caliber prospect?
I have seen him play 3 times and my opinion is not at quarterback. He is a very tough runner. At 6'4" 250#, he should be able to run over most high school lb and db and even most dl. They run a lot of bubble screens and short passes and then let the receivers take off. Daum is a big reason he has such great numbers. He is not very accurate over 10 yards in the games I have watched. Did not care for his attitude.


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Re: AA Playoffs

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John K wrote:
tdub wrote:
drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.
Is he a legitimate BSC caliber prospect?
I have seen him play 3 times and my opinion is not at quarterback. He is a very tough runner. At 6'4" 250#, he should be able to run over most high school lb and db and even most dl. They run a lot of bubble screens and short passes and then let the receivers take off. Daum is a big reason he has such great numbers. He is not very accurate over 10 yards in the games I have watched. Did not care for his attitude.
I tend to agree with you, even after just seeing him the one time. The way he moved about didn't scream "quarterback". The size factor that allows him to be successful in high school will go away with the physicality of the college game. I'm not sure where he would fit on the field at the BSC level - if at all. I have only seen him at quarterback so I have no idea what he would be like at other positions. TE, DL, OL? is he tough and physical enough or has he even played there before? I have no idea.


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Post by HassFan » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:43 pm

Perhaps Cooks transition to college ball would be comparable to Tebow's from college to NFL ? But, may well be worth taking a shot at if he could fill another role. Is he quick enough to play DE ?


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Re: AA Playoffs

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CPACAT wrote:
John K wrote:
tdub wrote:
drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.
Is he a legitimate BSC caliber prospect?
I have seen him play 3 times and my opinion is not at quarterback. He is a very tough runner. At 6'4" 250#, he should be able to run over most high school lb and db and even most dl. They run a lot of bubble screens and short passes and then let the receivers take off. Daum is a big reason he has such great numbers. He is not very accurate over 10 yards in the games I have watched. Did not care for his attitude.
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I agree totally with you. I have seen him play 3 times over the course of the last two years. Most of his completions are screens to fast WRs with alot of YAC yards. HS defenses have a tough time stopping screens, especially when they are run with fast WRs (Daum was 3rd in the State 100m dash as a Soph last year, 10.8 seconds). His downfield throws are alot of times way off the mark, I don't think he reads coverages very well, and his arm is not overly strong for how big he is. He did put up alot of numbers and has good size, (even though he is overweight, they list him at 235- he is more like 250-260 it appears) and will probably get a shot at the BSC level (which may mean the Cats since Will Weyer has verballed to the Griz), but I don't know think he can play at that level. Speaking of Weyer, he is legit, has all the tools, and throws a beautiful ball. I believe his ceiling is much greater than Cook's at the next level, maybe we will be lucky and he will change his mind like Gunnar Brekke did last year and switch from the Griz to the Cats, as I think he has a chance to be a very good BSC QB.



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Re: AA Playoffs

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catpound wrote:
CPACAT wrote:
John K wrote:
tdub wrote:
drider64 wrote:The Glacier versus Butte game on Friday night was probably one of the most entertaining games I have ever watched. Even if my son wasn't playing for Glacier, I would have said the same thing. I missed the game earlier this year when they played but I understand it was just as good. When you look at the stats, it doesn't look good for the defense but that Butte quarterback is tough to stop in the run. CMR may have won the last seven games but Glacier is 10-1 with their only loss being to Bozeman. If they can limit the turnovers, they can beat anyone, including Bozeman.
I agree. I was there watching it too - very entertaining! Butte ran QB draw what seemed like 30 times. Up until the last part of the 4th quarter, it was a nice gain for Butte every time...unless the run was stopped by the end zone, which of course happened a couple times. Happy to see that Pack defense regroup and pull off the win in the end...

It was the first time I've seen Cook in person...the kid's enormous. He ran through a lot a tackles.
Is he a legitimate BSC caliber prospect?
I have seen him play 3 times and my opinion is not at quarterback. He is a very tough runner. At 6'4" 250#, he should be able to run over most high school lb and db and even most dl. They run a lot of bubble screens and short passes and then let the receivers take off. Daum is a big reason he has such great numbers. He is not very accurate over 10 yards in the games I have watched. Did not care for his attitude.
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I agree totally with you. I have seen him play 3 times over the course of the last two years. Most of his completions are screens to fast WRs with alot of YAC yards. HS defenses have a tough time stopping screens, especially when they are run with fast WRs (Daum was 3rd in the State 100m dash as a Soph last year, 10.8 seconds). His downfield throws are alot of times way off the mark, I don't think he reads coverages very well, and his arm is not overly strong for how big he is. He did put up alot of numbers and has good size, (even though he is overweight, they list him at 235- he is more like 250-260 it appears) and will probably get a shot at the BSC level (which may mean the Cats since Will Weyer has verballed to the Griz), but I don't know think he can play at that level. Speaking of Weyer, he is legit, has all the tools, and throws a beautiful ball. I believe his ceiling is much greater than Cook's at the next level, maybe we will be lucky and he will change his mind like Gunnar Brekke did last year and switch from the Griz to the Cats, as I think he has a chance to be a very good BSC QB.
I seem to recall hearing that Weyer comes from a "Griz family", so I'd be very surprised if he changed his mind. Didn't his older brother play for UM?



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Yeah, his older brother currently is playing O-Line for the Griz....wishful thinking on my part to have Will switch over to the good side I'm afraid.



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catpound wrote:JOhn K
Yeah, his older brother currently is playing O-Line for the Griz....wishful thinking on my part to have Will switch over to the good side I'm afraid.
Oh well...we can always hope I guess. I can understand a kid not wanting to go to college in his hometown, but I just hate losing Bozeman kids to the Griz!! Several good girls basketball players from Bozeman have gone to UM in recent years too.



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catpound wrote:JOhn K
Yeah, his older brother currently is playing O-Line for the Griz....wishful thinking on my part to have Will switch over to the good side I'm afraid.
Oh well...we can always hope I guess. I can understand a kid not wanting to go to college in his hometown, but I just hate losing Bozeman kids to the Griz!! Several good girls basketball players from Bozeman have gone to UM in recent years too.
yep, totally agree with you....hate losing them to the Griz, but understand them wanting to get out of town. There are a few Bozeman players this year with BSC level abilities or higher, Weyer, Collins, Dissly, Gappmeyer, to name the most prominent. I suspect Collins and Dissly will be going to higher level programs, maybe Boise State or PAC 12, being selfish I just hope if those two choose the BSC level it isn't to the Griz.



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Post by Hawks86 » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:26 pm

Glacier up 21-0 1st quarter
Bozeman up 21-0 1st quarter


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35-0 Boz. still in 1st


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Hawks86 wrote:Glacier up 21-0 1st quarter
Bozeman up 21-0 1st quarter
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Post by SACCAT » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:28 pm

Hawks up 42-14 at half.



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42-14 Boz. half
37-7 Glacier 3rd

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Post by SACCAT » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:11 pm

Hawks up 49-26 late in 3rd.



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