Bobby Hauck Story

[GrizinWashington]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

[cats2506]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

[grizatwork]

This is where you guys get so twisted up. It is just speculating. I have an opinion about him, someone asked me why I said that and I gave the reason. You can't handle the answer. I'm just explaining what masking is to someone that apparently didn't know.

My concern with your posts is that you are not stating it as speculation. You are describing your impressions of Hauck's public persona as fact. You are stating that he appears arrogant and cocky and that that automatically makes him insecure. Your masking comment is also presented by you in a factual way. I assume that you know what you are doing and are intentionally doing it to get a rise out of tampa and eastcoast. If this is the case, then you got what you wanted. It is a dangerous game to play and could come back to haunt you.

Obviously I have no way of knowing this to be fact, but I can appreciate where you might think I'm stating this as fact. But it doesn't even seem that you believe yourself when you make that statement.

I say this because, by using the words 'impressions' and 'appears' to describe what I'm saying makes it sound like you don't really think I'm stating this as fact.

That, by the way, is called a Freudian slip (parapraxis), which like 'masking' and 'persona' is a common word/phrase used in the English language based on pyschology. I'm not trying to be Mr. Smart Guy-psychology dude. Just explaining.

Another example of a Freudian slip is when someone calls their wife by another name. Now I'm digressing.

I called my wife by my ex wife's name once the first year of our marriage. My Freudian slip was really showing.

[GrizinWashington]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

2506, it was never meant to be a slam against msu's players. It was a post to ask cc to explain why BH is such a bad guy for allowing players with some past history to play when Ash is doing the same thing. He never adequately answered, which is precisely what I expected.

[crazycat]

This is where you guys get so twisted up. It is just speculating. I have an opinion about him, someone asked me why I said that and I gave the reason. You can't handle the answer. I'm just explaining what masking is to someone that apparently didn't know.

My concern with your posts is that you are not stating it as speculation. You are describing your impressions of Hauck's public persona as fact. You are stating that he appears arrogant and cocky and that that automatically makes him insecure. Your masking comment is also presented by you in a factual way. I assume that you know what you are doing and are intentionally doing it to get a rise out of tampa and eastcoast. If this is the case, then you got what you wanted. It is a dangerous game to play and could come back to haunt you.

Obviously I have no way of knowing this to be fact, but I can appreciate where you might think I'm stating this as fact. But it doesn't even seem that you believe yourself when you make that statement.

I say this because, by using the words 'impressions' and 'appears' to describe what I'm saying makes it sound like you don't really think I'm stating this as fact.

That, by the way, is called a Freudian slip (parapraxis), which like 'masking' and 'persona' is a common word/phrase used in the English language based on pyschology. I'm not trying to be Mr. Smart Guy-psychology dude. Just explaining.

Another example of a Freudian slip is when someone calls their wife by another name. Now I'm digressing.

I called my wife by my ex wife's name once the first year of our marriage. My Freudian slip was really showing.

Good one. I hate when that happens.

[tampa_griz]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

Nice try at the end 2506 but I feel the need to yet once again put you in your place. This thread isn't about whose players are criminals is it? It's about crazy running his holier-than-though mouth again at Bobby Hauck for praising Russum in the media. In order to prove the "yes crazy, sometimes your sh!t stinks too" side of that argument someone thought it'd be good idea to point out that.....low and behold....there are some players on the Cat program that haven't been spending their weekends in church. And someday Coach Ash might have something positive to say about them.

Now, were you able to follow along?

[crazycat]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

2506, it was never meant to be a slam against msu's players. It was a post to ask cc to explain why BH is such a bad guy for allowing players with some past history to play when Ash is doing the same thing. He never adequately answered, which is precisely what I expected.

Oh my God. I didn't adequately answer? Oh, please, allow me to try again.

There's no comparison on a couple levels between Russum and these guys. First, Russum was at a different school when he did The Russum. Second, The Russum is a more deviant, heinous act than egging houses, which it was never confirmed that the MSU freshmen were in on, running from the cops or entering someone's house along with a relative of the owner.

Give .... it .... up.

This may be news to you, but some crimes are considered more serious than other and therefore are frowned upon by the public, carry more serious charges, and have a stiffer penalty.

[cats2506]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

Nice try at the end 2506 but I feel the need to yet once again put you in your place. This thread isn't about whose players are criminals is it? It's about crazy running his holier-than-though mouth again at Bobby Hauck for praising Russum in the media. In order to prove the "yes crazy, sometimes your sh!t stinks too" side of that argument someone thought it'd be good idea to point out that.....low and behold....there are some players on the Cat program that haven't been spending their weekends in church. And someday Coach Ash might have something positive to say about them.

Now, were you able to follow along?

Wrong, this is the thread about Hauck hiding behind the couch, and has become about how some griz fans will defend hauck no matter what some of his players do, and how some have little respect for him now and believe that he may be unethical.

I know the two threads are a mixed up mess but still the overall point I think CC is making is that some will defend hauck even if he commits a crime himself, I personally would think that the griz fans should hold him to some degree of accountability.

[tampa_griz]

What clearly WAS accurate is that all of those kids broke laws that night

Accurate? The law they broke was they were at a house party and ran when the cops showed up.

Last time I checked, vandelism was against the law. I don't believe that it's in dispute that they vandalized at least one home, including throwing eggs. I also believe that attempting to elude the police is also a crime. So I guess I'm confused on your point.

I'm still not sure that any of the "football recruits" threw any eggs, I did hear that they did not, but like I said I am not sure about that. Remember there were lots of kids at this party and the two that made headlines were football recruits, and as it played out it became apparent that they were not involved in everything that happened.

Yes they did try to elude the police. I think the biggest crime they commited was poor judgment in being at the party at all and then in running.

Knock on wood, but if that is the worst thing that a Bobcat player did this season I will accept it gladly. I guess if you want to slam our players for being criminals this year then go ahead.

Nice try at the end 2506 but I feel the need to yet once again put you in your place. This thread isn't about whose players are criminals is it? It's about crazy running his holier-than-though mouth again at Bobby Hauck for praising Russum in the media. In order to prove the "yes crazy, sometimes your sh!t stinks too" side of that argument someone thought it'd be good idea to point out that.....low and behold....there are some players on the Cat program that haven't been spending their weekends in church. And someday Coach Ash might have something positive to say about them.

Now, were you able to follow along?

Wrong, this is the thread about Hauck hiding behind the couch, and has become about how some griz fans will defend hauck no matter what some of his players do, and how some have little respect for him now and believe that he may be unethical.

I know the two threads are a mixed up mess but still the overall point I think CC is making is that some will defend hauck even if he commits a crime himself, I personally would think that the griz fans should hold him to some degree of accountability.

One, he's been cross-posting both arguments.

Two, when the premise of the story is so stupid that no rational person could believe it there's no need to defend anyone.

[GrizinWashington]

Okay, so it's cc's job to determine what an acceptable level of crime is. I guess if that's the standard, you're correct, cc. Hauck is horrible, horrible human being, because I know for a fact that you'll never agree with any decision he ever makes. I guess if we had just said on page one that it's cc's world and the rest of us are just renters, we could have saved ourselves a whole lot of time.

Of course, the issue with why Jr is a god and Russum and Hauck are satans hasn't been addressed.....

Oh wait! I forgot. It's all up to cc to decide. Okay, I'm now convinced.

Perhaps I can do this for the cats, since cc has taken on the role of The Almighty for the Griz. It could be fun to determine who's eligible to play for the kitties and to mock Ash for every decision he makes and every player he brings in.

I can't WAIT for recruiting time. I'm going to be doing a LOT of thread-starting!!

[tampa_griz]

Oh my God. I didn't adequately answer? Oh, please, allow me to try again.

First, Russum was at a different school when he did The Russum.

Are you making our case for us? Thanks!

Second, The Russum is a more deviant, heinous act than egging houses, which it was never confirmed that the MSU freshmen were in on, running from the cops or entering someone's house along with a relative of the owner.

More deviant than your junk-diddling, anal-penetrating hero?

Give .... it .... up.

Is that what you and your boy tell the younglings at the bottom of the pile? Give it up?

[CPACAT]

When is BN going to open a "Theater For The Colossally Absurd" forum?

Now you want a forum just for your posts??

I just you'd stay in The Babysitter's Club forum. It's been a while since you gave us a report from the middle school girls. Sick fu**.

whatever, My source is a 35 year old mother of 4. I am done talking about that topic.

[tampa_griz]

When is BN going to open a "Theater For The Colossally Absurd" forum?

Now you want a forum just for your posts??

I just you'd stay in The Babysitter's Club forum. It's been a while since you gave us a report from the middle school girls. Sick fu**.

whatever, My source is a 35 year old mother of 4. I am done talking about that topic.

Right. I know for a fact you were baiting them with Hannah Montana tickets. My source is a 35-year-old father of a 14-year-old girl that isn't happy with your infatuation.

[crazycat]

Oh my God. I didn't adequately answer? Oh, please, allow me to try again.

First, Russum was at a different school when he did The Russum.

Are you making our case for us? Thanks!

Second, The Russum is a more deviant, heinous act than egging houses, which it was never confirmed that the MSU freshmen were in on, running from the cops or entering someone's house along with a relative of the owner.

More deviant than your junk-diddling, anal-penetrating hero?

Give .... it .... up.

Is that what you and your boy tell the younglings at the bottom of the pile? Give it up?

No, I'm just honest and don't try to skew the facts or leave out details, because I've seen you do that and have it come back to bite you on the ass.

Yes.

Gooooooood one.
Hardy-har-har.
Oh, Todd, that's so funny I forgot to laugh.

[tampa_griz]

Oh my God. I didn't adequately answer? Oh, please, allow me to try again.

First, Russum was at a different school when he did The Russum.

Are you making our case for us? Thanks!

Second, The Russum is a more deviant, heinous act than egging houses, which it was never confirmed that the MSU freshmen were in on, running from the cops or entering someone's house along with a relative of the owner.

More deviant than your junk-diddling, anal-penetrating hero?

Give .... it .... up.

Is that what you and your boy tell the younglings at the bottom of the pile? Give it up?

No, I'm just honest and don't try to skew the facts or leave out details, because I've seen you do that and have it come back to bite you on the ass.

Yes.

Gooooooood one.
Hardy-har-har.
Oh, Todd, that's so funny I forgot to laugh.

You gave up and started crying in the other thread. You're starting to do the same here. Your out of arguments and you've been exposed for the hypocrite that you are.....a fairly common demise for the holier-than-though folk.

[cats2506]

It could be fun to determine who's eligible to play for the kitties and to mock Ash for every decision he makes and every player he brings in.

I can't WAIT for recruiting time. I'm going to be doing a LOT of thread-starting!!

And this is new for you and TG? Its what you have been doing any way.

[crazycat]

Okay, so it's cc's job to determine what an acceptable level of crime is. I guess if that's the standard, you're correct, cc. Hauck is horrible, horrible human being, because I know for a fact that you'll never agree with any decision he ever makes. I guess if we had just said on page one that it's cc's world and the rest of us are just renters, we could have saved ourselves a whole lot of time.

Of course, the issue with why Jr is a god and Russum and Hauck are satans hasn't been addressed.....

Oh wait! I forgot. It's all up to cc to decide. Okay, I'm now convinced.

Perhaps I can do this for the cats, since cc has taken on the role of The Almighty for the Griz. It could be fun to determine who's eligible to play for the kitties and to mock Ash for every decision he makes and every player he brings in.

I can't WAIT for recruiting time. I'm going to be doing a LOT of thread-starting!!

That's right I make the rules. Someone has to. But I still haven't said Hauck is a horrible, horrible human being. Not even a horrible human being. Not even a bad guy, not even...

It's all been addressed. You just missed it. And I'm not going to type it all in again. 3-4 times is enough.

Feel free to mock Ash. What did he do receive Communion twice on Sunday? Oh, yes, please start some threads. We're all sure to revel in your acumen.

[tampa_griz]

It could be fun to determine who's eligible to play for the kitties and to mock Ash for every decision he makes and every player he brings in.

I can't WAIT for recruiting time. I'm going to be doing a LOT of thread-starting!!

And this is new for you and TG? Its what you have been doing any way.

Find one single quote from myself or GinWa taking a smug attitude toward Ash's recruits that wasn't based in hyperbole.

[cats2506]

Since we are pushing 10 pages lets bring in the argument that UM has no math requirment again. I know it has nothing to do with this thread but it makes some of you guys veins pop when we say it, so what the heck.

[tampa_griz]

Since we are pushing 10 pages lets bring in the argument that UM has no math requirment again. I know it has nothing to do with this thread but it makes some of you guys veins pop when we say it, so what the heck.

Is that your punt?