2010 Griz...

[Nick]

The Griz lose in the playoffs once in a while because they are there every freakin' year, and they are playing the absolute best teams in the nation, something the cats know nothing about...

1) I believe the Griz have lost in the playoffs 12 of the past 14 years, GinWa; I think that would classify as more than "once in a while".

2) Seems to me we handled playoff-regular Furman last year and were actually in the game against App. St. so I think the Cats DO know something about playing the "absolute best teams in the nation"...

Yes, and how many of the opponents they lost to were in the semifinals or were the CHAMPIONS that year.



But your 1-3 record since 1984 will suffice I guess

[crazycat]

The Griz will undoubtedly be ranked #1 in the nation now. But nobody really knows how good (or how average) they really are yet due to their pollyanna schedule. It will not get much better until they have to play EWU and the Cats. These are the only two real challenges they will have until the playoffs.

I think that the Griz find a way to lose at home every year under Hauck in the playoffs because they have not had to face strong competition much during the regular season. Could happen again this year. I wonder what the excuse will be this time around when they fail to get out of Missoula and the cozy confines???

The Griz lose in the playoffs once in a while because they are there every freakin' year, and they are playing the absolute best teams in the nation, something the cats know nothing about.

And if the Griz schedule is so pollyanna, what, exactly is the cat's schedule? Please don't tell me it's any more difficult. That ground has been covered in pages and pages of other threads, and proven to be 100% inaccurate.

Once in a while? They've never won a road playoff game and have lost at home four of the last five years, having not played a road playoff game during that stretch. The home playoff games they can't earn, they buy or have fall into their laps.

The Cats have good reason to do whatever they want with their schedule, because we're still in the program building mode. UM is supposed to be in the elite of the FCS and should be scheduling themselves accordingly. How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

This year's schedule isn't even a remote challenge in terms of making the playoffs. It's like you've given yourselves a bye into the playoffs with three automatic wins in the non-conf all you need is to go 5-3 in a weak conference. Their are only four games (PSU, EWU, MSU and NAU) that you 'might' lose on this schedule the other seven are automatic. I really can't fathom you'd lose all four, so it's basically like you've given yourselves a bye into the playoffs.

How lame is that for a so-called FCS powerhouse?

[tampa_griz]

The Griz will undoubtedly be ranked #1 in the nation now. But nobody really knows how good (or how average) they really are yet due to their pollyanna schedule. It will not get much better until they have to play EWU and the Cats. These are the only two real challenges they will have until the playoffs.

I think that the Griz find a way to lose at home every year under Hauck in the playoffs because they have not had to face strong competition much during the regular season. Could happen again this year. I wonder what the excuse will be this time around when they fail to get out of Missoula and the cozy confines???

The Griz lose in the playoffs once in a while because they are there every freakin' year, and they are playing the absolute best teams in the nation, something the cats know nothing about.

And if the Griz schedule is so pollyanna, what, exactly is the cat's schedule? Please don't tell me it's any more difficult. That ground has been covered in pages and pages of other threads, and proven to be 100% inaccurate.

Once in a while? They've never won a road playoff game and have lost at home four of the last five years, having not played a road playoff game during that stretch. The home playoff games they can't earn, they buy or have fall into their laps.

The Cats have good reason to do whatever they want with their schedule, because we're still in the program building mode. UM is supposed to be in the elite of the FCS and should be scheduling themselves accordingly. How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

This year's schedule isn't even a remote challenge in terms of making the playoffs. It's like you've given yourselves a bye into the playoffs with three automatic wins in the non-conf all you need is to go 5-3 in a weak conference. Their are only four games (PSU, EWU, MSU and NAU) that you 'might' lose on this schedule the other seven are automatic. I really can't fathom you'd lose all four, so it's basically like you've given yourselves a bye into the playoffs.

How lame is that for a so-called FCS powerhouse?

The Griz have never won a playoff game on the road? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the 1995 and 2001 National Championships played somewhere other than Washington-Grizzly Stadium?

[crazycat]

Oh you didn't need to ask to be corrected. The sites of those two games are considered neutral.

Even though the win(?) over Marshall (they actually beat themselves that day) was in Marshall's stadium it's still technically a neutral site. Sorry. Just like when/if UCLA were to play in the Rose Bowl. Even though they play all their home games there it would be considered a neutral site.

I wouldn't be so harsh and smart-alecky, but this is the smack talk forum. No hard feelings.

[tampa_griz]

No worries. But in your UCLA example, would you consider that a road game?

[GrizinWashington]

[/quote]the Griz have lost in the playoffs 12 of the past 14 years

Damn! I guess you sort of realize how impressive the Griz playoff streak is, but when you see it in print -- especially written by a cat fan -- it really, truly is remarkable. 14 years and counting. Criminey!

[MashTun]

The Griz lose in the playoffs once in a while because they are there every freakin' year, and they are playing the absolute best teams in the nation, something the cats know nothing about...

1) I believe the Griz have lost in the playoffs 12 of the past 14 years, GinWa; I think that would classify as more than "once in a while".

2) Seems to me we handled playoff-regular Furman last year and were actually in the game against App. St. so I think the Cats DO know something about playing the "absolute best teams in the nation"...

What's funny is that a griz fan NEVER points to griz playoff history before 1995. Oh yeah...the griz would actually have to have a history to point to.

Believe it or not, the is another team in this state that made some noise on the national stage. To help dUMb fans out, it's the CATS. I'd also point to Carroll. Shocking as it is to a griz fan that a team other than the griz has accomplished something in collegiate football in MT.

The griz are not the be all and end all of football in MT. Some fans of dUMb just think they are.

[GrizinWashington]

Well, we'd point to 1989, 1993, and 1994 before 1995. But your point is well-taken, Mash.

But to that end, cat fans ripping on Griz scheduling never point to a year other than this one. The comments about the Griz "always" scheduling soft, or the cats "always" having tougher schedules are just laughable they are so incorrect. The whole argument is ridiculous.

[FTG06']

Griz are pansies. They won't play anybody outside of Fizzoula unless its a conference game. Pathetic.

Please tell me what OOC the Cats have played that was not a money FBS game.

If you choose the FBS money game, the Griz can match you step-for-step.

Idaho doesn't count pal.

[Cats Meow]

The spin doctors are working overtime to defend both their embarrassing schedule, as well as the fact that they HAVE NEVER WON A ROAD PLAYOFF GAME, and now routinely lose home playoff games under Hack (yes, I meant to spell it that way).

Get off of this B.S. about 2007 being the only easy non-conference schedle the Griz have played. Have you checked their 2008 non-conference schedule yet? It is possibly more ridiculous than this year's. Hell, there are not enough hyphens to write the names of the teams they have scheduled.

I can't remember them specifically, but, if any of you Griz boys has the intestinal fortitude, why don't you share them with us so we can have another good laugh.

[Ghost]

Lets talk about basketball Cat fans. I always win this argument

[GrizinWashington]

The spin doctors are working overtime to defend both their embarrassing schedule, as well as the fact that they HAVE NEVER WON A ROAD PLAYOFF GAME, and now routinely lose home playoff games under Hack (yes, I meant to spell it that way).

Get off of this B.S. about 2007 being the only easy non-conference schedle the Griz have played. Have you checked their 2008 non-conference schedule yet? It is possibly more ridiculous than this year's. Hell, there are not enough hyphens to write the names of the teams they have scheduled.

I can't remember them specifically, but, if any of you Griz boys has the intestinal fortitude, why don't you share them with us so we can have another good laugh.

Meow, you're new here. So perhaps before you post stuff like this, do a search on "Griz schedule" and read the dozens and dozens and dozens of threads regarding them. In one 7 page thread, you'll see a comparison of Griz/cat schedules for recent history. If you can read that and then come back to this thread and honestly say the cats schedule tougher than the Griz, then I will respect you. I'll disagree with you (as would the facts), but I will respect you.

[PapaG]

How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

They should be, but they have fans who will continue to pay $40 to watch them play Ft. Lewis. I think you're right, but why would they challenge themselves at this point?

[Cats Meow]

The spin doctors are working overtime to defend both their embarrassing schedule, as well as the fact that they HAVE NEVER WON A ROAD PLAYOFF GAME, and now routinely lose home playoff games under Hack (yes, I meant to spell it that way).

Get off of this B.S. about 2007 being the only easy non-conference schedle the Griz have played. Have you checked their 2008 non-conference schedule yet? It is possibly more ridiculous than this year's. Hell, there are not enough hyphens to write the names of the teams they have scheduled.

I can't remember them specifically, but, if any of you Griz boys has the intestinal fortitude, why don't you share them with us so we can have another good laugh.

Meow, you're new here. So perhaps before you post stuff like this, do a search on "Griz schedule" and read the dozens and dozens and dozens of threads regarding them. In one 7 page thread, you'll see a comparison of Griz/cat schedules for recent history. If you can read that and then come back to this thread and honestly say the cats schedule tougher than the Griz, then I will respect you. I'll disagree with you (as would the facts), but I will respect you.

And, if you have read my posts in another thread, I openly chastize BOTH the Cats and the Griz for playing patsies. I want to see good quality football on Saturdays. It is O.K. to play one laugher, as most teams do. But THREE? The Griz make promises to teams to schedule a home-n-home, then buy out the return away game because they do not want to risk losing on the road. They ducked Cal Poly and SDSU, and I think Maine. Am I right on these? I think I am. Hauck always uses the money excuse, but we all know he is afraid to play quality teams on the road.

[GrizinWashington]

How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

They should be, but they have fans who will continue to pay $40 to watch them play Ft. Lewis. I think you're right, but why would they challenge themselves at this point?

It ain't about the challenge. It's about the dollars. If anyone is willing to pay the Griz the $500,000 (plus travel expenses) they can make on a home game, they'll be happy to schedule it.

Any takers? Takers? Beuhler? Beuhler??

[PapaG]

How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

They should be, but they have fans who will continue to pay $40 to watch them play Ft. Lewis. I think you're right, but why would they challenge themselves at this point?

It ain't about the challenge. It's about the dollars. If anyone is willing to pay the Griz the $500,000 (plus travel expenses) they can make on a home game, they'll be happy to schedule it.

Any takers? Takers? Beuhler? Beuhler??

Yeah, pretty much what I was saying.

You should hope the Griz continue to dominate at home. Eventually the $40 crowd starts spending there money elsewhere, and every FCS bridge has basically been burned by your team.

[GrizinWashington]

How can UM be as afraid or more afraid of going 2-1 in the non-conf games as MSU? You guys should be secure enough by now to at least schedule home-and-homes with the NDSUs and Cal Polys.

They should be, but they have fans who will continue to pay $40 to watch them play Ft. Lewis. I think you're right, but why would they challenge themselves at this point?

It ain't about the challenge. It's about the dollars. If anyone is willing to pay the Griz the $500,000 (plus travel expenses) they can make on a home game, they'll be happy to schedule it.

Any takers? Takers? Beuhler? Beuhler??

Yeah, pretty much what I was saying.

You should hope the Griz continue to dominate at home. Eventually the $40 crowd starts spending there money elsewhere, and every FCS bridge has basically been burned by your team.

Which begs the question (for another thread and another time): What the hell are the Griz doing in the FCS and the BCS?

[grizband]

The spin doctors are working overtime to defend both their embarrassing schedule, as well as the fact that they HAVE NEVER WON A ROAD PLAYOFF GAME, and now routinely lose home playoff games under Hack (yes, I meant to spell it that way).

Get off of this B.S. about 2007 being the only easy non-conference schedle the Griz have played. Have you checked their 2008 non-conference schedule yet? It is possibly more ridiculous than this year's. Hell, there are not enough hyphens to write the names of the teams they have scheduled.

I can't remember them specifically, but, if any of you Griz boys has the intestinal fortitude, why don't you share them with us so we can have another good laugh.

Neither have the Cats, at least not in I-AA. Sure, I will admit that the Griz don't have a great road playoff record, but you must take into account the teams the Griz played on the road. Out of our 9 losses, only twice did the team that beat Montana fail to make at least the semifinals; the Griz lost the eventual champions twice, the runner-up three times, and twice the Griz loss was in the semifinals.

1988 - Idaho was a semifinalist
1989 - Griz lost in Semis to champion Ga. Southern
1994 - Griz lost in Semis to champion Youngstown State
1997 - McNeese State lost the title game by 1 point
1998 - Western Illinois was a semi-finalist
1999 - Youngstown State was a runner-up
2002 - McNeese State was a finalist

[catatac]

This debate has raged on and on for waaaay too long. I can see Griz fans being upset about the schedule but as for Cat fans, and the rest of the country... who friggin cares? My first reaction is to rip on them for having a cupcake schedule, but after thinking about it I say all the power to em. If they can still pack the stadium by playing pansies, that gives them the revenue to justiry it, and it paves the way for them to have an easier run in the playoffs. It sounds like a decent strategy. Personally, I happen to think that when they come up against great teams later in the season, they'll be worse prepared to handle those games due to their easy pre-season schedule, so this strategy could work against them - especially if they go one-and-done in the playoffs (Possibly by losing two late regular-season games therefore having to travel), ... but let's just see what happens.

[Grizlaw]

Oh you didn't need to ask to be corrected. The sites of those two games are considered neutral.

Even though the win(?) over Marshall (they actually beat themselves that day) was in Marshall's stadium it's still technically a neutral site.

If I were to make an argument this moronic, everyone on the board would roll their eyes and mutter "f-ing lawyers..."

Just sayin'...