worst loss ever?

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:40 pm

mslacatfan wrote:Is this the worst loss ever for the Cats?

In the grand scheme of things-no. It's just a conference loss-embarrassing, but probably entirely forgettable in a season or two.

But it may be worst played loss in Bobcat history. Three missed field goals, one missed extra point, 5 turnovers-including several inside the redzone, 95 yards in penalties, 3 personal foul penalities that kept their drives alive, horrible kick coverage, several dropped passes...that wasn't a football team out there-that was a Keystone Cops routine.

How did Northern Colorado only beat us by 3 with those numbers? Seriously, it might be another 16 games before they win another.

I went to watch my 1st grader nephews play a flag football game on Saturday morning. Those little guys screwed up far less than the Bobcats did yesterday.

GoBears · Post by **GoBears** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:30 am

BelgradeBobcat wrote:
mslacatfan wrote:Is this the worst loss ever for the Cats?
In the grand scheme of things-no. It's just a conference loss-embarrassing, but probably entirely forgettable in a season or two.

But it may be worst played loss in Bobcat history. Three missed field goals, one missed extra point, 5 turnovers-including several inside the redzone, 95 yards in penalties, 3 personal foul penalities that kept their drives alive, horrible kick coverage, several dropped passes...that wasn't a football team out there-that was a Keystone Cops routine.

How did Northern Colorado only beat us by 3 with those numbers? Seriously, it might be another 16 games before they win another.

I went to watch my 1st grader nephews play a flag football game on Saturday morning. Those little guys screwed up far less than the Bobcats did yesterday.

You don't think the Bears didn't shoot themselves in the foot also? We've been doing it all year. We had plenty of dropped passes, stupid penalties, etc.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:34 am

GoBears wrote:
BelgradeBobcat wrote:
mslacatfan wrote:Is this the worst loss ever for the Cats?
In the grand scheme of things-no. It's just a conference loss-embarrassing, but probably entirely forgettable in a season or two.

But it may be worst played loss in Bobcat history. Three missed field goals, one missed extra point, 5 turnovers-including several inside the redzone, 95 yards in penalties, 3 personal foul penalities that kept their drives alive, horrible kick coverage, several dropped passes...that wasn't a football team out there-that was a Keystone Cops routine.

How did Northern Colorado only beat us by 3 with those numbers? Seriously, it might be another 16 games before they win another.

I went to watch my 1st grader nephews play a flag football game on Saturday morning. Those little guys screwed up far less than the Bobcats did yesterday.
You don't think the Bears didn't shoot themselves in the foot also? We've been doing it all year. We had plenty of dropped passes, stupid penalties, etc.

Yes, but we are a ranked team. You had lost 16 (?) straight games. You played as expected, and we played worse than any Bobcat team I've seen in years, including the one that lost 45-0 to UC Davis.

John K · Post by **John K** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:17 pm

crazycat wrote:We lost to NAIA (at the time) Mesa State 41-10 in 1988. That was under Solomonson. Can you believe he coached here for 5 years? In 13 years we went 56-91 and only made one coaching change.

But this is worse, because we are loaded with talent and because probably ends our season. Probably? I'm probably in denial. Anyway, for this group of players to lose to UNC is absolutely unacceptable. You can make a real strong case that UNC is the worst team in the FCS coming into the game. The Cent. Washington and Chadron teams were much better than UNC.

I hope and pray that I am wrong about this, I know that I will get hammered for saying it, and I will be cheering the Cats on for the balance of the season regardless....but based upon what I have seen for most of the season, I don't see us coming within 2 TD of NAU, PSU, or UM. I think that PSU is our best chance to be competitive, because they seem to be very hot and cold, but we have to improve about 1000% to have a chance against NAU or UM, and now with all of the injuries????

People have said that Hauck can't win in Bozeman, but IMHO at least 2 of our 3 Cat-Griz wins were a direct result of Kramer outcoaching Hauck, but we have no idea yet how Ash will fare against Bobby.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:58 pm

John K wrote:
crazycat wrote:We lost to NAIA (at the time) Mesa State 41-10 in 1988. That was under Solomonson. Can you believe he coached here for 5 years? In 13 years we went 56-91 and only made one coaching change.

But this is worse, because we are loaded with talent and because probably ends our season. Probably? I'm probably in denial. Anyway, for this group of players to lose to UNC is absolutely unacceptable. You can make a real strong case that UNC is the worst team in the FCS coming into the game. The Cent. Washington and Chadron teams were much better than UNC.
I hope and pray that I am wrong about this, I know that I will get hammered for saying it, and I will be cheering the Cats on for the balance of the season regardless....but based upon what I have seen for most of the season, I don't see us coming within 2 TD of NAU, PSU, or UM. I think that PSU is our best chance to be competitive, because they seem to be very hot and cold, but we have to improve about 1000% to have a chance against NAU or UM, and now with all of the injuries????

People have said that Hauck can't win in Bozeman, but IMHO at least 2 of our 3 Cat-Griz wins were a direct result of Kramer outcoaching Hauck, but we have no idea yet how Ash will fare against Bobby.

I disagree somewhat. I think our best chance in the last 3 weeks is against NAU. We have something to prove, and NAU will be slowed by the grass field.

Given our DC's strategy of bend but don't break, I think PSU will eat us alive. The whole BSC learned during the Read era that you have to attack the spread at the very least - you simply just can't let such an offense to run free in a zone defense.

I don't think Coach Ash knows what he's in for during Cat/griz. Solomonson never learned. Hopefully, Coach McEndoo can get the rest of the coaches up to speed. We need big time leadership from the seniors.

John K · Post by **John K** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:09 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote:
John K wrote:
crazycat wrote:We lost to NAIA (at the time) Mesa State 41-10 in 1988. That was under Solomonson. Can you believe he coached here for 5 years? In 13 years we went 56-91 and only made one coaching change.

But this is worse, because we are loaded with talent and because probably ends our season. Probably? I'm probably in denial. Anyway, for this group of players to lose to UNC is absolutely unacceptable. You can make a real strong case that UNC is the worst team in the FCS coming into the game. The Cent. Washington and Chadron teams were much better than UNC.
I hope and pray that I am wrong about this, I know that I will get hammered for saying it, and I will be cheering the Cats on for the balance of the season regardless....but based upon what I have seen for most of the season, I don't see us coming within 2 TD of NAU, PSU, or UM. I think that PSU is our best chance to be competitive, because they seem to be very hot and cold, but we have to improve about 1000% to have a chance against NAU or UM, and now with all of the injuries????

People have said that Hauck can't win in Bozeman, but IMHO at least 2 of our 3 Cat-Griz wins were a direct result of Kramer outcoaching Hauck, but we have no idea yet how Ash will fare against Bobby.
I disagree somewhat. I think our best chance in the last 3 weeks is against NAU. We have something to prove, and NAU will be slowed by the grass field.

Given our DC's strategy of bend but don't break, I think PSU will eat us alive. The whole BSC learned during the Read era that you have to attack the spread at the very least - you simply just can't let such an offense to run free in a zone defense.

I don't think Coach Ash knows what he's in for during Cat/griz. Solomonson never learned. Hopefully, Coach McEndoo can get the rest of the coaches up to speed. We need big time leadership from the seniors.

You make great points on all counts....very insightful analysis regarding MSU vs. NAU/PSU. You are also right about Coach Ash not fully grasping the whole Cat-Griz phenomenon....at least not yet. Kramer understood it, with his roots in the BSC, and especially his years spent at MSU and Helena High. I truly believe we would have beaten UM in both 97 and 98, if Kramer had been the coach. We had the better team both those years, but we didn't believe we could/should win, and UM didn't believe they could/should lose. Kramer changed that attitude.

dabears · Post by **dabears** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:24 pm

I'm sorry to tell you Bobcat fans but I think you should see this as your worst loss ever. Even though I am a UNC fan I will say that the team is absolutely horrible this year but that still doesn't take away from the sweetness of this victory. I will be absolutely stunned if we win another game this year so thanks for the memories!

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:28 pm

Ouuuuccch.

GoBears'89 · Post by **GoBears'89** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:49 am

I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:53 am

GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

Congrats on last week, your team deserves the glory.....but how many conference wins do you have in three years???? That's what I thought and it will probably be another 16 games before you get another

cats2506 · Post by **cats2506** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:58 am

GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

I wouldn't go thinking that you own the BSC just yet, Just because our team overlooked you and had a terrible game, mistakes of every kind and you still just pulled it off. Congrats to you for the win.

TIrwin24 · Post by **TIrwin24** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:08 am

GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

Moron

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:21 am

GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

Thank God that's the last thing.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:44 am

GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?

You are right, we do have trouble with bad football teams.

I don't care if you beat the Griz in Missoula... two total wins in two years in our league is horrendous. Someone was bound to slip up and lose to you, and unfortunately it was us.

And this topic is not 100% football specific either. You went 4-24 in basketball last year, with 2 wins in conference. Hell, let's just get a total W/L of the three major sports, football, men's and women's basketball.

Football 2-18 (.111%)
Men's BBall 4-24 (.167%)
Women's BBall 5-24 (.208%)

For a combined:
11-66 (.167%)

If you can't understand why some folk were upset or didn't think you belonged, I think that should be sufficient evidence as to why they felt that way.

GoBears · Post by **GoBears** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:49 am

CelticCat wrote:
GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?
You are right, we do have trouble with bad football teams.

I don't care if you beat the Griz in Missoula... two total wins in two years in our league is horrendous. Someone was bound to slip up and lose to you, and unfortunately it was us.

And this topic is not 100% football specific either. You went 4-24 in basketball last year, with 2 wins in conference. Hell, let's just get a total W/L of the three major sports, football, men's and women's basketball.

Football 2-18 (.111%)
Men's BBall 4-24 (.167%)
Women's BBall 5-24 (.208%)

For a combined:
11-66 (.167%)

If you can't understand why some folk were upset or didn't think you belonged, I think that should be sufficient evidence as to why they felt that way.

We also had about 8 games in men's basketball that we lost by a single basket. Including games against Colorado and Oregon State.

Old Skool Cat · Post by **Old Skool Cat** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:50 am

GoBears wrote:
CelticCat wrote:
GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?
You are right, we do have trouble with bad football teams.

I don't care if you beat the Griz in Missoula... two total wins in two years in our league is horrendous. Someone was bound to slip up and lose to you, and unfortunately it was us.

And this topic is not 100% football specific either. You went 4-24 in basketball last year, with 2 wins in conference. Hell, let's just get a total W/L of the three major sports, football, men's and women's basketball.

Football 2-18 (.111%)
Men's BBall 4-24 (.167%)
Women's BBall 5-24 (.208%)

For a combined:
11-66 (.167%)

If you can't understand why some folk were upset or didn't think you belonged, I think that should be sufficient evidence as to why they felt that way.
We also had about 8 games in men's basketball that we lost by a single basket. Including games against Colorado and Oregon State.

Last time I checked, a loss was a loss whether it was by one point or a hundred.

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:50 am

Football 2-18 (.111%)
Men's BBall 4-24 (.167%)
Women's BBall 5-24 (.208%)

For a combined:
11-66 (.167%)

Eeeek! That is gawd-awful. I'm not quite the "UNC doesn't belong" believer that many are. But that's some UGLY numbers.

CPACAT · Post by **CPACAT** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:51 am

NO.

While it did suck and may seem like the worst, it is only because it is so fresh. I think last year's loss to UC Davis was worse. I also think that Hysells last loss to the griz was worse.

In both of those games you could see the players quit. At UNC, we made too many mistakes but we never quit.

GoBears'89 · Post by **GoBears'89** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:53 am

cats2506 wrote:
GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?
I wouldn't go thinking that you own the BSC just yet, Just because our team overlooked you and had a terrible game, mistakes of every kind and you still just pulled it off. Congrats to you for the win.

I never said we own the conference, I was just sick of hearing that we did not belong in the conference. If you are going to talk like that, your team better beat ours.

WSSMommyCat · Post by **WSSMommyCat** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:55 am

GoBears'89 wrote:
cats2506 wrote:
GoBears'89 wrote:I just have to say y'all crack me up. UNC fans spent all last year listening to how we did not belong in the conference. Then MSU barely squeeks buy us. Then this year most of you predict a blow-out win, despite the fact that you barely beat us at your house. I dont know how most of you did not see this coming. Again considering your team's history, plus the fact that you seem to have trouble with us every year.

The last thing that I am going to say is that if UNC does not belong in the conference, what does it say about the kitties?
I wouldn't go thinking that you own the BSC just yet, Just because our team overlooked you and had a terrible game, mistakes of every kind and you still just pulled it off. Congrats to you for the win.
I never said we own the conference, I was just sick of hearing that we did not belong in the conference. If you are going to talk like that, your team better beat ours.

Honestly. The Cats don't have to beat you for us to know that your team sucks. We had ONE bad day. What's your excuse?

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