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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by Topher » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:45 pm

According to recent Dennison quotes in the Kaimin, yes. The depth of the revue is vague, but they are instituting new programs here to help incomming students transition into college. The U offered a one credit course covering topics such as study habits the week prior to school starting. Not exactly calculus, but then again, who amongst us didn't take a rec course or two. I do believe you will see a tougher admittance within the next couple of years if the trend of students dropping out continues.

I have worked directly with the U on this issue (albeit a minor role) but I have heard the discussions. Nobody can deny their is a flaw in UM's admission policy, it shows in the low level of retainment.


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by Cledus » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:56 pm

Topher wrote:
Cledus wrote:
Topher wrote:I will not deny that anyone can get into UM. Our acceptance standards are currently under revue.
Is that a fact?
According to recent Dennison quotes in the Kaimin, yes. The depth of the revue is vague, but they are instituting new programs here to try to help incomming students transition into college. The U offered a one credit course covering items such as study habits the week prior to school starting. Not exactly calculus, but then again, who amongst didn't take a rec course or two. I do believe you will see a tougher admittance within the next couple of years if the trend of students dropping out continues.

I have worked directly with the U on this issue (albeit a minor role) but I have heard the discussions. Nobody can deny their is a flaw in UM's admission policy, it shows in the low level of retainment.
I'm going to go ahead and venture a guess you're not getting the irony of my responses to dUMb's academic review. An academic douche / review (whatever you choose to call it) would be a good thing. Might be a little late for some, don't you think?


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by Topher » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:08 pm

Wow, I don't know why or when I would have used revue before, but I certainly see the irony now. You did have to spell it out for me, and I do catch the irony of a spelling error considering the topic at hand.

You are correct, it is review, not revue (which is a word, just has absolutely nothing to do with this)


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by coachouert » Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:14 pm

Question for you Topher and this is actually a legitimate question (which is weird on the smack board :wink: ). If UM is reviewing their admissions requirements, doesn't that mean that the Board of Regents is reviewing all of the admissions requirements for the MUS system (including MSU, Tech, Western, MSU-Billings etc)? I was under the impression that since we all have the same requirements as stated by the BOR, that there would not be any changes unless it is to all schools. I know the BOR is talking about dramatically upping the ACT/SAT math requirement in the next couple of years, but handn't heard anything else.


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by Topher » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:01 pm

That is a good question. The changes that I do know of, are the institution of a new careers course which advisers are starting to suggest, and the one credit pre-fall semester course the U just added. I don't think they have put anything in motion that would involve the Board of Regents (BOR), but I would not be surprised to see this come up.

I am doing a lot of predicting here, but I do know a couple of changes have already taken place. I know Dennison is aware of the retainment issue, which is connected to admission policy. Now, whether or not he would make a public statement regarding this I have only a few Kaimin comments (please don't make me dig them up) to suggest his intentions.

I don't have a straight up answer for you on your question (an awful lot of typing to not have one #-o ) but I stand by my predictions. There is a lot of truth to what Bay Area Cat stated, and I'm not the only one aware of it.

P.S. my connection, while existant, is minimal regarding the University of Montana's new courses. I don't want to play this off like I am a professor or important personnel (right homonym?)


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by coachouert » Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:22 pm

Topher wrote:That is a good question. The changes that I do know of, are the institution of a new careers course which advisers are starting to suggest, and the one credit pre-fall semester course the U just added. I don't think they have put anything in motion that would involve the Board of Regents (BOR), but I would not be surprised to see this come up.

I am doing a lot of predicting here, but I do know a couple of changes have already taken place. I know Dennison is aware of the retainment issue, which is connected to admission policy. Now, whether or not he would make a public statement regarding this I have only a few Kaimin comments (please don't make me dig them up) to suggest his intentions.

I don't have a straight up answer for you on your question (an awful lot of typing to not have one #-o ) but I stand by my predictions. There is a lot of truth to what Bay Area Cat stated, and I'm not the only one aware of it.

P.S. my connection, while existant, is minimal regarding the University of Montana's new courses. I don't want to play this off like I am a professor or important personnel (right homonym?)
Interesting. It looks like it is more of a retention plan right now, than an actual admissions requirement issue (although I do agree that it plays a very large roll in that issue). I know all schools are having issues with retention so it is good to see a university take steps toward improving that.


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by SonomaCat » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:21 pm

Topher wrote: I don't have a straight up answer for you on your question (an awful lot of typing to not have one #-o ) but I stand by my predictions. There is a lot of truth to what Bay Area Cat stated, and I'm not the only one aware of it.
To be completely honest, I assume there was some explanation for the data outside of the simple "MSU is stricter" argument, and I was just talking smack. I'm a little surprised that there actually is a real issue here.

I'd like to see both schools become more selective as time goes on ... but to be selective, you need a large pool of applicants so you aren't hurting your enrollment. It seems that this was a concern due to the drop in the number of MT high school students. But if they can get more out of state students, all the better.

Then the Western/Northern/Eastern schools can take up the marginal students, so everyone is still served.



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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by A-Bomb » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:32 pm

damn i got into msUUUU but i didnt want to go to that otha peace of shut it looks like anyones could go in there


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Re: Anybody can get into UM!

Post by tampa_griz » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:47 pm

I hoestly didn't know anyone coudln't get into either school. I was accepted to both.......'nuff said.



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