Yeah, the Cats Won, But........

[grizzh8r]

All I've tried to do in starting this thread was to find out what you think was wrong with the ridiculously high scores of the SacSt game. I think there was something seriously wrong. I guess most of you don't. Both defenses, it seems, broke down in the 2d half, esp. on the part of MSU to allow SacSt to come roaring back the 2d half. Why do you think that is? Maybe you don't know any more than I do. If so, please stop the insults.

The press has ignored it, yet I think it's probably the highest cumulative score in FCS history.

Your are a ****** moron. The press HAS covered it. Greg Rachac from the Grizette beat it to death, as has every other publication in the state.

Also, if you paid attention to anyone but the Griz, you would know that in 2007, Weber St. beat Portland St. 73-68 in REGULATION.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273002502

Go back to your pathetic world where only the almighty Griz matter. Stupid ****** grizidiots....

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Why did both defenses falter in the game? Well, it might have had something to do with the fact that it was 120 degrees on the field. MSU scored early and often, so the Bobcat Defense was on the field 18 minutes in the 1st half, to Sac State's 12. Then to come back from half and get gashed on the opening possession, then the next possession after the free kick recovery by Sac State, then the next after a quick 3 and out by the MSU offense. MSU only played 3 LB and 6 DL the whole game... The entire Bobcat D was gassed the whole 3rd quarter. Only in the 4th did the TOP equal out and they were able to catch their breath a bit. I'd say the Sac. St. defense was just plain broke. Only stopped MSU from scoring on 3 possessions, out of a total of 14.

[GrizMadman]

All I've tried to do in starting this thread was to find out what you think was wrong with the ridiculously high scores of the SacSt game. I think there was something seriously wrong. I guess most of you don't. Both defenses, it seems, broke down in the 2d half, esp. on the part of MSU to allow SacSt to come roaring back the 2d half. Why do you think that is? Maybe you don't know any more than I do. If so, please stop the insults. The press has ignored it, yet I think it's probably the highest cumulative score in FCS history.

Montana State's offense has been great so far this year, but this is by far the worst its defense has played in years. Usually known to have a very strong D, the Cats need to go back to the drawing board and find out how they got ripped to shreds if they want to be serious Big Sky championship contenders.

Your are a ****** moron.

Are all Cat fans this way? All you engineers, farmers, & ranchers? Even architects? grizzh8r, are you an MSU grad? I suspect you are not. Don't discredit MSU by stupid responses.

The press HAS covered, it Greg Rachac from the Grizette beat it to death, as has every other publication in the state.

Wait a minute. I read Cat/Griz Insider most every day. I just didn't see it, today. Give me a break! BTW, it's not the "Grizette." It's the Gazette. Glad to see you have the Griz on your mind. Even Rachac says, "Montana State's offense has been great so far this year, but this is by far the worst its defense has played in years. Usually known to have a very strong D, the Cats need to go back to the drawing board and find out how they got ripped to shreds if they want to be serious Big Sky championship contenders."

Also, if you paid attention to anyone but the Griz, you would know that in 2007, Weber St. beat Portland St. 73-68 in REGULATION. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273002502 Go back to your pathetic world where only the almighty Griz matter. Stupid ****** grizidiots....

This is a stupid assumption on your part, and I could say more.

Why did both defenses falter in the game? Well, it might have had something to do with the fact that it was 120 degrees on the field. MSU scored early and often, so the Bobcat Defense was on the field 18 minutes in the 1st half, to Sac State's 12. Then to come back from half and get gashed on the opening possession, then the next possession after the free kick recovery by Sac State, then the next after a quick 3 and out by the MSU offense. MSU only played 3 LB and 6 DL the whole game... The entire Bobcat D was gassed the whole 3rd quarter. Only in the 4th did the TOP equal out and they were able to catch their breath a bit. I'd say the Sac. St. defense was just plain broke. Only stopped MSU from scoring on 3 possessions, out of a total of 14.

The only rational thing you've said & thank you for that insight, and I mean it.

[LongTimeCatFan]

UGH!!!, Ok So we were missing our DE, MLB, and SS due to injury and suspension. Next, it was 120 degrees on the field so guys got tired fast. Sac scored with a td catch over the middle right away in the 3rd and then on-side kicked it successfully. That gave them the momentum, then we figured shiit out, but it was too fast they were already on the gas. We battled back on offense, got three stops on D (same as you last week) and won the game. End of story. It wasn't pretty, but a W is a W. Now, STFU, ? answered. Cats will beat the gizz like a rented mule and won't put in the 2nd team.... just cuz.

[GrizinWashington]

Man, this is a bad thread....

[CARDIAC_CATS]

What happened to your defense? The hell with your offense in this farcical game. 64-61? Against UNC, for god's sake? Is this basketball? The game was a farce. Seems like the old question with the Cats: What team will show up? You guys don't know what you have, when UM held SacSt to 25 points & you allowed them 61 points? I predict a blowout by UM in the Griz/Cat game: Griz 42 Cats 18. This is based on the differential between the Griz & Cat scores vs. SacSt by my own reckoning. The Griz will clean the BSC board here on out. The Cats? I really wonder.

We will be just fine thank you. This isn't EGRIZ.

Move along.

Next up PSU visiting against an embarrased and pissed off defense. I like our chances.

[whitetrashgriz]

Man, this is a bad thread....

until the mods make a rule that griz fans can't start threads....we'll always run the risk.

but yes...this has been a very, very bad thread.

[cats2506]

I wish the eGriz moderators were as sensitive to "smack talk" as the moderators on this board

He does have a point here. That would sure make it a little more tolerable to deal with a few posters over there....

But then the mods would have to move their OWN posts to smack

[GrizMadman]

Man, this is a bad thread....

until the mods make a rule that griz fans can't start threads....we'll always run the risk. but yes...this has been a very, very bad thread.

Wait a minute, guys. I'm not the only one wondering about the high score & what it says about the Cat defense. Rachac is also concerned & a good discussion in comments to his article: http://billingsgazette.com/sports/colle ... e=comments" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No, this is a good thread & it raised a legitimate question.

[grizzh8r]

All I've tried to do in starting this thread was to find out what you think was wrong with the ridiculously high scores of the SacSt game. I think there was something seriously wrong. I guess most of you don't. Both defenses, it seems, broke down in the 2d half, esp. on the part of MSU to allow SacSt to come roaring back the 2d half. Why do you think that is? Maybe you don't know any more than I do. If so, please stop the insults. The press has ignored it, yet I think it's probably the highest cumulative score in FCS history.

Montana State's offense has been great so far this year, but this is by far the worst its defense has played in years. Usually known to have a very strong D, the Cats need to go back to the drawing board and find out how they got ripped to shreds if they want to be serious Big Sky championship contenders.

Your are a ****** moron.

Are all Cat fans this way? All you engineers, farmers, & ranchers? Even architects? grizzh8r, are you an MSU grad? I suspect you are not. Don't discredit MSU by stupid responses.

The press HAS covered, it Greg Rachac from the Grizette beat it to death, as has every other publication in the state.

Wait a minute. I read Cat/Griz Insider most every day. I just didn't see it, today. Give me a break! BTW, it's not the "Grizette." It's the Gazette. Glad to see you have the Griz on your mind. Even Rachac says, "Montana State's offense has been great so far this year, but this is by far the worst its defense has played in years. Usually known to have a very strong D, the Cats need to go back to the drawing board and find out how they got ripped to shreds if they want to be serious Big Sky championship contenders."

Also, if you paid attention to anyone but the Griz, you would know that in 2007, Weber St. beat Portland St. 73-68 in REGULATION. http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=273002502 Go back to your pathetic world where only the almighty Griz matter. Stupid ****** grizidiots....

This is a stupid assumption on your part, and I could say more.

Why did both defenses falter in the game? Well, it might have had something to do with the fact that it was 120 degrees on the field. MSU scored early and often, so the Bobcat Defense was on the field 18 minutes in the 1st half, to Sac State's 12. Then to come back from half and get gashed on the opening possession, then the next possession after the free kick recovery by Sac State, then the next after a quick 3 and out by the MSU offense. MSU only played 3 LB and 6 DL the whole game... The entire Bobcat D was gassed the whole 3rd quarter. Only in the 4th did the TOP equal out and they were able to catch their breath a bit. I'd say the Sac. St. defense was just plain broke. Only stopped MSU from scoring on 3 possessions, out of a total of 14.

The only rational thing you've said & thank you for that insight, and I mean it.

You aren't very good with assumptions, are you? I expect nothing less from a Grizidiot. I do hold a degree from MSU. COE Grad, Class of '07. How is telling the truth a stupid response? You are a moron. We understand; it is all part of being a Grizidiot. For the record, please don't assume I think all Griz fans are Grizidiots. There are a select few Griz fans that post here who's vision is not constantly clouded by a haze of maroon and silver. Grizgirl, Born2BeAGriz, Catheotherwhitemeat, are few off the top of my head. Also, one of the coolest guys I ever worked with was a hardcore Griz fan. However, he didn't go out of his way to make snide comments to me about the Cats, and he wasn't over the top like so many Griz fans are. YOU are the type of Griz fan that give that fanbase a bad name. If you don't like my replies, don't post ignorant crap. Simple as that.

As for the Grizette part; you don't know about satire or the simple skill of making a play on words? Can't say I'm surprised... I'll spell it out for your puny Griz brain... Greg Rachac and the rest of the sports department at the Gazette worships all that is Griz - much like you do - and provide substandard coverage of the Cats. Hell, they even called them the Bears in an article a while back... Therefore - because of this Griz infatuation - if you replace the "a" in Gazette with "ri", you have a handly little play on words that fits them perfectly.

[GrizMadman]

As for the Grizette part; you don't know about satire or the simple skill of making a play on words? Can't say I'm surprised... I'll spell it out for your puny Griz brain... Greg Rachac and the rest of the sports department at the Gazette worships all that is Griz - much like you do - and provide substandard coverage of the Cats. Hell, they even called them the Bears in an article a while back... Therefore - because of this Griz infatuation - if you replace the "a" in Gazette with "ri", you have a handly little play on words that fits them perfectly.

Well, with a moniker like yours, it's easy to see how crazed you become when "Griz" flashes before your eyes. As to the "Grizette/Gazette" thing, I did catch on after I wrote my post. I didn't catch on in the beginning, because after reading a lot of Cat/Griz Insider, I saw a lot of criticism that Rachac loves the Cats more than the Griz. Notice it's "The CAT/Griz Insider." It's a very good site & I only wish the Missoulian could do the same over here & have said so.

Your post confirms that this is, indeed, a good thread.

[webdav]

So based on the fact that we gave up 61 points on the road, with a depleted defense on an extremely hot field, you make the assumption that the Griz will beat us in the Cat-Griz game?

Keep in mind, we scored 64 (which even a UM grad should know is a larger number than 61), which means we won. The Griz won against Sac State as well, at home. Good for you.

But using your logic, since you lost to EWU, and we beat them, then we'll win Cat-Griz 108-2 (freak safety when a Griz fumbles out the back of the end zone.)

Basically, my point is that we won the damn game. Now we are 2-0 in the BSC. We keep winning, and we bring home the title. Simple as that.

[autocat]

I believe GrizMadman is really Greg Rachac in disguise!


You start the thread & then play the victim, take a walk!

[grizzh8r]

As for the Grizette part; you don't know about satire or the simple skill of making a play on words? Can't say I'm surprised... I'll spell it out for your puny Griz brain... Greg Rachac and the rest of the sports department at the Gazette worships all that is Griz - much like you do - and provide substandard coverage of the Cats. Hell, they even called them the Bears in an article a while back... Therefore - because of this Griz infatuation - if you replace the "a" in Gazette with "ri", you have a handly little play on words that fits them perfectly.

Well, with a moniker like yours, it's easy to see how crazed you become when "Griz" flashes before your eyes. As to the "Grizette/Gazette" thing, I did catch on after I wrote my post. I didn't catch on in the beginning, because after reading a lot of Cat/Griz Insider, I saw a lot of criticism that Rachac loves the Cats more than the Griz. Notice it's "The CAT/Griz Insider." It's a very good site & I only wish the Missoulian could do the same over here & have said so.

Your post confirms that this is, indeed, a good thread.

I'll readily admit that when I see someone decked out in maroon and silver, or those stupid little griz paws on someones taillights, or a Griz license plate, I immediately bristle. However, it is because of a spoiled and arrogant Griz fanbase full of fans like you, which I estimate comprise around 80% of the total.

Oh, and lest I forget, with a moniker like yours, it's easy to see that your vision is permanently clouded by maroon and silver (or baby-poop brown and calf-scour yellow; your choice). But then, we've already covered that.

[GrizMadman]

Lemme back up. I'm not as surprised that the Cats could score 64 points, as I am that the Cats allowed 61 points against them. I'd be saying the same thing if this were a Griz/SacSt score. Because I'm a Griz supporter does not mean I'm a Cats hater, and I did not intend to come across as one. If the Griz had wound up with this kind of score, I'd still call it a farcical game. I just think the Cats have to take a good look at what kind of defense they have, esp. since it performed so well in the 1st half & for 9 minutes in the 2d, just fell apart. SacSt has to feel very good about its 2d half offensive performance.

I really haven't followed the Cats much in the past, but this year, when they soundly beat EWU after the Griz lost to EWU, and with the success so far in the BSC, I got interested & watched that Cat/Hornet game during & after the Griz/Bears game. And, I intend to follow the Cats as much as I can. I was very impressed with the Cat victory over Colorado back when & expected great things from them, only to turn around & lose to a DII school. So, I wonder about consistency. Why a resounding defeat of EWU & then blow a good lead in the 2d half against SacSt? (BTW, I've predicted SacSt will finish far higher in the BSC than anyone expects. Yeah, they're 0-2 right now. There's still a season ahead & they played both BSC big boys within 3 points, unlike previous seasons.)

Yeah, it was a W, but you guys have to be wondering, as I am, about not only which Cat team will show up for a game, but which Cat team will show up for a half. Don't give me this, "Well, key defenders were injured. It was the heat." I could come back & say, well, you beat EWU without Taiwan Jones. Ok, the W's & L's are in the books. Let's move on. I still think the Griz will beat the Cats.

As to Rachac, the guy keeps a pretty even keel between the Cats & the Griz & covers the BSC very well. I think the best coverage of the Cats, Griz, & the BSC in the state. He's worth reading.

I still wonder why this thread was moved to Smack Talk, unless the smack came from Bobcat fans.

[LongTimeCatFan]

Lemme back up. I'm not as surprised that the Cats could score 64 points, as I am that the Cats allowed 61 points against them. I'd be saying the same thing if this were a Griz/SacSt score. Because I'm a Griz supporter does not mean I'm a Cats hater, and I did not intend to come across as one. If the Griz had wound up with this kind of score, I'd still call it a farcical game. I just think the Cats have to take a good look at what kind of defense they have, esp. since it performed so well in the 1st half & for 9 minutes in the 2d, just fell apart. SacSt has to feel very good about its 2d half offensive performance.

I really haven't followed the Cats much in the past, but this year, when they soundly beat EWU after the Griz lost to EWU, and with the success so far in the BSC, I got interested & watched that Cat/Hornet game during & after the Griz/Bears game. And, I intend to follow the Cats as much as I can. I was very impressed with the Cat victory over Colorado back when & expected great things from them, only to turn around & lose to a DII school. So, I wonder about consistency. Why a resounding defeat of EWU & then blow a good lead in the 2d half against SacSt? (BTW, I've predicted SacSt will finish far higher in the BSC than anyone expects. Yeah, they're 0-2 right now. There's still a season ahead & they played both BSC big boys within 3 points, unlike previous seasons.)

Yeah, it was a W, but you guys have to be wondering, as I am, about not only which Cat team will show up for a game, but which Cat team will show up for a half. Don't give me this, "Well, key defenders were injured. It was the heat." I could come back & say, well, you beat EWU without Taiwan Jones. Ok, the W's & L's are in the books. Let's move on. I still think the Griz will beat the Cats.

As to Rachac, the guy keeps a pretty even keel between the Cats & the Griz & covers the BSC very well. I think the best coverage of the Cats, Griz, & the BSC in the state. He's worth reading.

I still wonder why this thread was moved to Smack Talk, unless the smack came from Bobcat fans.

Griz won by 3, Cats won by 3..... Sac has a good team that doesn't quit until the final bell. I do find it interesting that both the Cats and Griz had to put 3 stops together at the end and score late in the 4th quarter to win. So many similarities and a win is a win, bottom line. Right? But you think that the Griz did ohhhhh soooooo much better. Go back to recess fool. Oh and I still wonder why you still wear diapers... wait nope I got it.... If you still crap your pants, you still need to wear diapers. Just like if you post crap, you get deported to the smack board. Its just that simple. I hope I have resolved some burning questions for you.

[GrizMadman]

I'd be saying the same thing if this were a Griz/SacSt score. Because I'm a Griz supporter does not mean I'm a Cats hater, and I did not intend to come across as one. If the Griz had wound up with this kind of score, I'd still call it a farcical game.
I still wonder why this thread was moved to Smack Talk, unless the smack came from Bobcat fans.

But you think that the Griz did ohhhhh soooooo much better. Go back to recess fool. Oh and I still wonder why you still wear diapers... wait nope I got it.... If you still crap your pants, you still need to wear diapers. Just like if you post crap, you get deported to the smack board. Its just that simple. I hope I have resolved some burning questions for you.

Where do you get a notion like that? I didn't infer that the Griz did so much better. All I said was........... Well, it's there. From your following comment, it's one more example of why this was moved to Smack. Man! You guys are sensitive. Obviously, I struck a nerve. Yeah, I was poking a little fun at the Cats, but god! Why so defensive? It's like the line in Shakespeare's "Macbeth": "The lady doth protest too much." Peace.

[ThunderCat]

I'd be saying the same thing if this were a Griz/SacSt score. Because I'm a Griz supporter does not mean I'm a Cats hater, and I did not intend to come across as one. If the Griz had wound up with this kind of score, I'd still call it a farcical game.
I still wonder why this thread was moved to Smack Talk, unless the smack came from Bobcat fans.

But you think that the Griz did ohhhhh soooooo much better. Go back to recess fool. Oh and I still wonder why you still wear diapers... wait nope I got it.... If you still crap your pants, you still need to wear diapers. Just like if you post crap, you get deported to the smack board. Its just that simple. I hope I have resolved some burning questions for you.

Where do you get a notion like that? I didn't infer that the Griz did so much better. All I said was........... Well, it's there. From your following comment, it's one more example of why this was moved to Smack. Man! You guys are sensitive. Obviously, I struck a nerve. Yeah, I was poking a little fun at the Cats, but god! Why so defensive? It's like the line in Shakespeare's "Macbeth": "The lady doth protest too much." Peace.

Excuse me grizmadam but "poking a little fun" is another term for smack.

And you didn't infer, you flat out stated that based on the outcomes of um's and MSU's respective games with Sac, the griz would win this years Cat/griz.

Go home!

[cats2506]

D2 is banished to the smack room

D2 and Hauck

[GrizMadman]

Excuse me grizmadam but "poking a little fun" is another term for smack.

Oh, jeezuz!

And you didn't infer, you flat out stated that based on the outcomes of um's and MSU's respective games with Sac, the griz would win this years Cat/griz. Go home!

Well, what else can one take away in comparing the Griz & the Cats with a common opponent, & a good one, at that? I'm a Griz fan. Why shouldn't I say that? Still, the issue remains WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE CATS DEFENSE IN THE SECOND HALF? All I'm saying is, if the Cats show the same defense in the 2d half to the Griz, as it did against SacSt, it's a no-brainer. Griz win. Simple as that. The Griz defense is far more consistent than the Cat defense. The Cats hold EWU to 7 points & turn around & allow UNC 61 points? You guys have a BIG defense problem. McGhee & offense will carry you far, but your D has serious consistency problems. Ok, key D players were out for the SacSt game. Indicates your D has no depth. UM has depth at all positions.

[coachouert]

Excuse me grizmadam but "poking a little fun" is another term for smack.

Oh, jeezuz!

And you didn't infer, you flat out stated that based on the outcomes of um's and MSU's respective games with Sac, the griz would win this years Cat/griz. Go home!

Well, what else can one take away in comparing the Griz & the Cats with a common opponent, & a good one, at that? I'm a Griz fan. Why shouldn't I say that? Still, the issue remains WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THE CATS DEFENSE IN THE SECOND QUARTER? All I'm saying is, if the Cats show the same defense in the 2d quarter to the Griz, as it did against SacSt, it's a no-brainer. Griz win. Simple as that. The Griz defense is far more consistent than the Cat defense. The Cats hold EWU to 7 points & turn around & allow UNC 61 points? You guys have a BIG defense problem. McGhee & offense will carry you far, but your D has serious consistency problems. Ok, key D players were out for the SacSt game. Indicates your D has no depth. UM has depth at all positions.

How come you weren't on here comparing the teams after Eastern Washington? Convenient.