AGS Poll: Griz No. 4.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Wed May 24, 2006 4:24 pm

Guess we should hire Dennison and Edwards to cook our books for a few years so we can pay the committee too

MaZooLaGriz · Post by **MaZooLaGriz** » Wed May 24, 2006 4:43 pm

catamaran wrote:Guess we should hire Dennison and Edwards to cook our books

I'm sure you didn't really mean to liable these gentlemen.

The Griz program blossomed by virtue of excellent coaches, scouting and players; big and small donors; rabid fans; success and hype. It takes all of that. You guys just wish and complain.

In the end the joke's always going to be on you, 'cause you have to live with the results.

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Wed May 24, 2006 5:06 pm

MaZooLaGriz wrote:
catamaran wrote:Guess we should hire Dennison and Edwards to cook our books
I'm sure you didn't really mean to liable these gentlemen.

The Griz program blossomed by virtue of excellent coaches, scouting and players; big and small donors; rabid fans; success and hype. It takes all of that. You guys just wish and complain.

In the end the joke's always going to be on you, 'cause you have to live with the results.

And the prelude to the big blossom? A Denny Washington sized $ bolus that helped turn you average griz fans into rabid fans right?

As for the results, why don't you just admit that the Cats are turning the corner and that the dominance you guys became accustomed to (and also the time when many people like you probably and conveniently became fans) isn't near what it used to be?

Such idiotic hubris you demonstrate always ends with the joke being on people like you.

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Wed May 24, 2006 5:52 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:As for the results, why don't you just admit that the Cats are turning the corner and that the dominance you guys became accustomed to (and also the time when many people like you probably and conveniently became fans) isn't near what it used to be?

The Cats have come a long way, but I think I'm going to wait until the Griz are more than one season removed from their last national title game appearance before I start admitting that our program has gone to the dogs.

tacoma_griz · Post by **tacoma_griz** » Wed May 24, 2006 6:32 pm

catamaran wrote:Guess we should hire Dennison and Edwards to cook our books for a few years so we can pay the committee too

I guess the final win has nothing to do with it.

Yay 1984!

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Wed May 24, 2006 7:45 pm

Grizlaw wrote:
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:As for the results, why don't you just admit that the Cats are turning the corner and that the dominance you guys became accustomed to (and also the time when many people like you probably and conveniently became fans) isn't near what it used to be?

The Cats have come a long way, but I think I'm going to wait until the Griz are more than one season removed from their last national title game appearance before I start admitting that our program has gone to the dogs.

Agreed, but I know you're smart enough to understand that I never said the program has or is going to the dogs.

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:06 pm

MaZooLaGriz wrote:
catsrback76 wrote:Hope to see you THERE!
Well that was very nice of you, Sc@. I'd like to reciprocate and say it would be nice to bump into you guys there, too. But it's not likely. Hey, this IS the Smack board.

It really would really be nice if we had two premier Montana teams. Well, three counting the Saints. And, two premier facilities. I'm frustrated by all the talk, talk, talk over the last many years about how you guys intend to fix this, expand that, but hardly anything happens.

Maybe it would be good if we did go to 1-A, so we could root for each other in good conscience?

Sorry to hear you're frustrated about our program, but if you can't see that the Bobcats are a program on the rise, then you're not paying attention. Speaking of talk, talk, talk - frankly I'm getting a little sick of hearing about how good the Griz are GOING TO BE in 2006. Given what I saw out of Bobby and co. last season, now that he has a good # of his own recruits in the program, I'll believe it when I see it. As far as I'm concerned, the Griz are sitting a 2 game losing streak, will be 3 after the opener. I'll believe that they have made it back to being a 1-AA power when I see it...

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Wed May 24, 2006 9:44 pm

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Agreed, but I know you're smart enough to understand that I never said the program has or is going to the dogs.

No, you didn't say that. Fair enough...

You must admit, though, that many Cat fans are pretty quick to jump on that wagon, though (even if you may not be). Every time the Griz lose a game, or get played tough by a team they "should" be able to beat, we get to read all the comments from Cat fans about how the Griz program is "slipping," and how we're not as good as we used to be.

All I'm saying is, gimme a break. Yeah, our team wasn't as good last year as they have been, but we're still only one year removed from a title game appearance, and 8-3 is still the worst regular season record we've had since sometime in the 80's. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think we've slipped that much...

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Wed May 24, 2006 10:13 pm

Grizlaw wrote:
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Agreed, but I know you're smart enough to understand that I never said the program has or is going to the dogs.
No, you didn't say that. Fair enough...

You must admit, though, that many Cat fans are pretty quick to jump on that wagon, though (even if you may not be). Every time the Griz lose a game, or get played tough by a team they "should" be able to beat, we get to read all the comments from Cat fans about how the Griz program is "slipping," and how we're not as good as we used to be.

All I'm saying is, gimme a break. Yeah, our team wasn't as good last year as they have been, but we're still only one year removed from a title game appearance, and 8-3 is still the worst regular season record we've had since sometime in the 80's. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think we've slipped that much...

You are like me GrizLaw. We don't take smack real well and we (at least myself) do not dish it very well either. I stay off the smack board generally.

I'm too logical and have never enjoyed talking smack. I get no satisfaction (well a few jabs here and there).

lifeloyalsigmsu · Post by **lifeloyalsigmsu** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:23 am

Grizlaw wrote:
lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Agreed, but I know you're smart enough to understand that I never said the program has or is going to the dogs.
No, you didn't say that. Fair enough...

You must admit, though, that many Cat fans are pretty quick to jump on that wagon, though (even if you may not be). Every time the Griz lose a game, or get played tough by a team they "should" be able to beat, we get to read all the comments from Cat fans about how the Griz program is "slipping," and how we're not as good as we used to be.

All I'm saying is, gimme a break. Yeah, our team wasn't as good last year as they have been, but we're still only one year removed from a title game appearance, and 8-3 is still the worst regular season record we've had since sometime in the 80's. In the grand scheme of things, I don't think we've slipped that much...

I agree with everything you said and, yes, there are some Cat fans that say things are going down the toilet for the griz at the slightest bit of a loss or a subpar season.

On the other hand, we have a few useful idiots on here who talk about how 7-4 or 7-5 is mediocre or really poor. Like the griz being only a little over a year removed from a title game appearance, the Cats aren't too far out of the realm of that 0-11 season. Though the concepts are different, the comparison is similar. What we view as major improvement over the last 5 or so years, some griz fans think that the performances or the lack of playoff appearance continuity is something they should feed off of. Just my 0.02.

MaZooLaGriz · Post by **MaZooLaGriz** » Thu May 25, 2006 6:07 am

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:And the prelude to the big blossom? A Denny Washington sized $ bolus that helped turn you average griz fans into rabid fans right?

Not really. The move to create the stadium was well in motion before Denny. But what if he did start it? You guys don't have any rich folk over there?

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:just admit that the Cats are turning the corner and that the dominance you guys became accustomed to

It's certainly true that we went into a dive for a couple years. But it's pretty well accepted - even by most Sc@ fans who post on your "Bobcat Athletics" board - that this will probably be a very good year for the Griz.

lifeloyalsigmsu wrote:Such idiotic hubris you demonstrate always ends with the joke being on people like you.

He who laughs last...

catatac wrote:I'm getting a little sick of hearing about how good the Griz are GOING TO BE in 2006.

No doubt. Keep your eyes open!

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:22 pm

catamaran wrote:Guess we should hire Dennison and Edwards to cook our books for a few years so we can pay the committee too

Hey, your Athletic Dept is running it's own little Debt Shop there. It's just that that doesn't get statewide publicity. In fact, I'll wager UM'd debt is paid off before MSU's.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:23 pm

Having a debt is problematic throughout all college sports.....throwing lobster dinner parties with NASA's money is completely different

Post by **rtb** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:26 pm

GrizinWashington wrote:In fact, I'll wager UM'd debt is paid off before MSU's.

Really? Is UM's going to be paid off by July 1st? MSU is on track to be in the black by July 1st is UM that close?

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Thu May 25, 2006 12:48 pm

rtb wrote:
GrizinWashington wrote:In fact, I'll wager UM'd debt is paid off before MSU's.
Really? Is UM's going to be paid off by July 1st? MSU is on track to be in the black by July 1st is UM that close?

Yeah, remember some of their space grant money myseriously disappeared?

I hope that audit turns people's heads.

Grizlaw · Post by **Grizlaw** » Thu May 25, 2006 2:07 pm

CelticCat wrote:You are like me GrizLaw. We don't take smack real well and we (at least myself) do not dish it very well either. I stay off the smack board generally. I'm too logical and have never enjoyed talking smack. I get no satisfaction (well a few jabs here and there).

Are you hinting that I can't talk smack?

Actually, I used to be better at this when I was younger (particularly when I played high school sports). I think age (and law school) ruined my smack-talking skills; now I over-analyze everything instead of just insulting people (or teams). *sigh* Oh well...

grizzh8r · Post by **grizzh8r** » Thu May 25, 2006 8:22 pm

catamaran wrote:Having a debt is problematic throughout all college sports.....throwing lobster dinner parties with NASA's money is completely different

MSU Toddler · Post by **MSU Toddler** » Thu May 25, 2006 9:46 pm

griz fans on bobcat nation obsessed with the Cats.

definition of obsession:

a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; broadly : compelling motivation

sounds about right - especially the disturbing part.

catamaran · Post by **catamaran** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:05 am

MSU Toddler wrote:griz fans on bobcat nation obsessed with the Cats.

definition of obsession:

a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling; broadly : compelling motivation

sounds about right - especially the disturbing part.

or spending more time on the rivals board than you do your own team's

MaZooLaGriz · Post by **MaZooLaGriz** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:54 am

CARDIAC_CATS wrote:remember some of their space grant money myseriously disappeared? I hope that audit turns people's heads.

Why on Earth would we wish anything like that on each other's school? Shame.

catamaran wrote:or spending more time on the rivals board than you do your own team's

As some of yours do, also. Hey, it's fun. And besides, how are you guys going to "smack" yourselves (any more than you do during the season)?