Bobby Hauck Story

[GrizinWashington]

Once again, cc, you make no sense whatsover.

I don't have any problems making sense of what cc said, You on the other hand sound like a complete idiot. You will maintain your faith in almost anything despite obvous evidence to the contrary right in front of your face. If we were all like you we would still think the world was flat and the moon made of cheese.

WHAT EVIDENCE???!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

That has been the point all along, you imbicile. No one has provided one bit of evidence, other than some random CSU internet posting which may or may not have even been posted. If you can prove to me with OBJECTIVE DOCUMENTATION that there's all this evidence of BH being a dirty/unethical coach, I'll become a cat fan today. If you can't, it's time to shut the hell up.

I have respect for every poster on this board. But when someone posts that BH -- who has never been questioned by ANYone outside of this board for doing the least bit of unethical activity -- is dirty, you'll get it back from me all day long.


(edit: Incidentally, if you're not smart enough to figure out why a poster on the CSU board might be making up/posting complete fabrications about BH, I'll be happy to help you with that issue. Or you can ask your average 6th grader, as I'm certain they have developed enough causal-thought skills to provide you that insight).

[Eastcoastgriz]

2506 (the projected year the cats next win the BSC), I don't care one iota what you think. I do care that you post crap that isn't true when it disparages a fine individual and the best coach in conference history.

Yes, both teams had difficulty getting game tapes for the first-round matchup. It's not unusual, especially with weather conditions into and out of Missoula, the holiday, etc.

My point is, there has never been ONE piece of OBJECTIVE evidence to suggest that BH is ANYthing but the most ethical coach in the conference. And when you suggest there is, I'll call you on it and ask you to produce some documentation. When you're unable (which invariably is always the case because none exists), I'll say you're full of sh$t.

Well you just called that Wofford player "full of sh$t" I provided you the link, you can make all the excuses for him that you want but your story that the airport was fogged in is BS and you know it.
If you dont like me I really dont care.

WHAT?? How can you make up $hit like that??? The airport absolutely was fogged in!

[crazycat]

2506 (the projected year the cats next win the BSC), I don't care one iota what you think. I do care that you post crap that isn't true when it disparages a fine individual and the best coach in conference history.

Yes, both teams had difficulty getting game tapes for the first-round matchup. It's not unusual, especially with weather conditions into and out of Missoula, the holiday, etc.

My point is, there has never been ONE piece of OBJECTIVE evidence to suggest that BH is ANYthing but the most ethical coach in the conference. And when you suggest there is, I'll call you on it and ask you to produce some documentation. When you're unable (which invariably is always the case because none exists), I'll say you're full of sh$t.

Well you just called that Wofford player "full of sh$t" I provided you the link, you can make all the excuses for him that you want but your story that the airport was fogged in is BS and you know it.
If you dont like me I really dont care.

WHAT?? How can you make up $hit like that??? The airport absolutely was fogged in!

Just a question out of the blue, but why would they send a video on an airplane when they can send it via email? Just really curious about that.

[cats2506]

2506 (the projected year the cats next win the BSC), I don't care one iota what you think. I do care that you post crap that isn't true when it disparages a fine individual and the best coach in conference history.

Yes, both teams had difficulty getting game tapes for the first-round matchup. It's not unusual, especially with weather conditions into and out of Missoula, the holiday, etc.

My point is, there has never been ONE piece of OBJECTIVE evidence to suggest that BH is ANYthing but the most ethical coach in the conference. And when you suggest there is, I'll call you on it and ask you to produce some documentation. When you're unable (which invariably is always the case because none exists), I'll say you're full of sh$t.

Well you just called that Wofford player "full of sh$t" I provided you the link, you can make all the excuses for him that you want but your story that the airport was fogged in is BS and you know it.
If you dont like me I really dont care.

WHAT?? How can you make up $hit like that??? The airport absolutely was fogged in!

Why is this so difficult for you to understand. Take it to Fed Ex and they will drive it to Helena and put it on a plane and it will be there the next day. No problem. Unless you need and excuse for not getting it there and then the fogged in excuse works really well.

[tampa_griz]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

[cats2506]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

So its OK to ignore a man who beats his stripper girl friend who is the mother of his child so that he can finish the season?

[GrizinWashington]

2506 (the projected year the cats next win the BSC), I don't care one iota what you think. I do care that you post crap that isn't true when it disparages a fine individual and the best coach in conference history.

Yes, both teams had difficulty getting game tapes for the first-round matchup. It's not unusual, especially with weather conditions into and out of Missoula, the holiday, etc.

My point is, there has never been ONE piece of OBJECTIVE evidence to suggest that BH is ANYthing but the most ethical coach in the conference. And when you suggest there is, I'll call you on it and ask you to produce some documentation. When you're unable (which invariably is always the case because none exists), I'll say you're full of sh$t.

Well you just called that Wofford player "full of sh$t" I provided you the link, you can make all the excuses for him that you want but your story that the airport was fogged in is BS and you know it.
If you dont like me I really dont care.

WHAT?? How can you make up $hit like that??? The airport absolutely was fogged in!

Why is this so difficult for you to understand. Take it to Fed Ex and they will drive it to Helena and put it on a plane and it will be there the next day. No problem. Unless you need and excuse for not getting it there and then the fogged in excuse works really well.

If I'm not mistaken, this is precisely what DID happen, and is why Wofford had game tapes before the Griz did.

But this whole argument is just so damn ridiculous. Hauck has NEVER done anything below the boards. Believe it or don't. But if you don't believe it, just understand there is not ONE SHRED of support for your position.

[tampa_griz]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

So its OK to ignore a man who beats his stripper girl friend who is the mother of his child so that he can finish the season?

Another figment of your fragile imagination. Awesome!

And no (in the hypothetical scenario) it wouldn't OK. But I wouldn't feel sorry for him like you should feel sorry for Kramer. Bobby will continue to be an ass kicker wherever he stays/goes. No need to feel sorry for him.

[cats2506]

2506 (the projected year the cats next win the BSC), I don't care one iota what you think. I do care that you post crap that isn't true when it disparages a fine individual and the best coach in conference history.

Yes, both teams had difficulty getting game tapes for the first-round matchup. It's not unusual, especially with weather conditions into and out of Missoula, the holiday, etc.

My point is, there has never been ONE piece of OBJECTIVE evidence to suggest that BH is ANYthing but the most ethical coach in the conference. And when you suggest there is, I'll call you on it and ask you to produce some documentation. When you're unable (which invariably is always the case because none exists), I'll say you're full of sh$t.

Well you just called that Wofford player "full of sh$t" I provided you the link, you can make all the excuses for him that you want but your story that the airport was fogged in is BS and you know it.
If you dont like me I really dont care.

WHAT?? How can you make up $hit like that??? The airport absolutely was fogged in!

Why is this so difficult for you to understand. Take it to Fed Ex and they will drive it to Helena and put it on a plane and it will be there the next day. No problem. Unless you need and excuse for not getting it there and then the fogged in excuse works really well.

If I'm not mistaken, this is precisely what DID happen, and is why Wofford had game tapes before the Griz did.

But this whole argument is just so damn ridiculous. Hauck has NEVER done anything below the boards. Believe it or don't. But if you don't believe it, just understand there is not ONE SHRED of support for your position.

I dissagree. I have seen enough, but I guess your standards are different.

[cats2506]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

So its OK to ignore a man who beats his stripper girl friend who is the mother of his child so that he can finish the season?

Another figment of your fragile imagination. Awesome!

And no (in the hypothetical scenario) it wouldn't OK. But I wouldn't feel sorry for him like you should feel sorry for Kramer. Bobby will continue to be an ass kicker wherever he stays/goes. No need to feel sorry for him.

Whatever you want to believe, but thats what all the UM students home for thanksgiving were saying. I heard it from several different ones in different situations.

About the second part go back and reread what I said before.
http://www.bobcatnation.com/bobcatboard ... 777#176777

[crazycat]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

In what way, pray tell, does Kramer have anything to do with Hauck. How do you come up with these analyses. It's Freudian!
I'm no liar, I've been in Hauck's presence and it's my opinion that he's insecure and immature. It's nothing to be alarmed about and there's no way you could, or should, call me a liar. Can you and your Griz friends prove that I'm a liar and prove I don't believe my own opinion? Many men are this way. Especially on the immature side. For instance, I'm immature. My ability to admit that, however, tends to make me secure.

Don't worry tampa griz, everything is going to be OK.

[grizatwork]

I have come in on this arguement late, but I have to tell you, that even for a smack board, this is a very weird thread. I would like to give my two cents.

I am a griz booster. I have never met Bobby and have not been to booster functions. I have observed him over the past five years and it seems to me that he was wound very tight initially, but has matured quite nicely into his position.

I don't know what happened when he was at Colorado. I don't know whether it is true or not. I do know that just because it is repeated numerous times it doesn't make it true and it doesn't make it false. I also know that just because it has more and more details as time goes on does not make it true either. We all played the telephone game in elementary school and the story at the end of the line was much different than the one at the beginnning. It still had plenty of details however.

I know for a fact that Bobby said that it was a shame that Lulay wasn't in the playoffs his Senior year. I know he made that statement that the cats were likely the most talented team in the conference. I know there is no way for an outsider to determine his state of mind. You are just speculating. It is likey coach speak said to make sure the other team has no bulletin board material. That in no way means that he is immature and insecure. It is likely a sign of maturity as a head coach.

If you dislike him, that is fine. You don't have to like your rival's head coach, and you don't even have to respect him. I don't expect you to. In fact, you are almost expected to dislike him. I am good with that. What I don't understand is how you can make judgements on his intentions and partake in character assassination based on internet rumors and innuendo.

[tampa_griz]

See response to ECG. I've been around him, but I don't think you have to be around him to pick on this behavior. I've never been around Britney Spears either, but I think she's immature and insecure, too. The world is full of these kind of people, Hauck doesn't own the patent. The fact that he allows players with past criminal records to join his already stacked team is a sure sign of insecurity.

I feel bad for the guy. He's his own worst enemy. Had he just walked a straight line in terms of recruiting he wouldn't be in such a big mess. True, some of his players that went bad were clean before they came to UM...like Wilson, but why in the world, when you're on the fast track to scoring a big time job, do you bring in Russum, Quinn, Coleman et al? Why? I'm sure he's asking himself this same question.

Well not only are you crazy....but you're a liar too. For the sake of the argument (a complete and total hypothetical because it's never happenned) if you were in Hauck's presence he wouldn't be insecure and nervous. He'd act the same way everyone else does around you.....point and laugh.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone feel sorry Kramer......he's much more deserving of your pity while he drives his gramma's tractor and Hauck wins.. I mean, if you're gonna ignore a man who beats women so he can peddle meth around.....what do you expect? Feel sorry for Kramer instead.

In what way, pray tell, does Kramer have anything to do with Hauck. How do you come up with these analyses. It's Freudian!
I'm no liar, I've been in Hauck's presence and it's my opinion that he's insecure and immature. It's nothing to be alarmed about and there's no way you could, or should, call me a liar. Can you and your Griz friends prove that I'm a liar and prove I don't believe my own opinion? Many men are this way. Especially on the immature side. For instance, I'm immature. My ability to admit that, however, tends to make me secure.

Don't worry tampa griz, everything is going to be OK.

Last night I was having a few beers at a local dive bar and some schmuck was asking everyone to wish him luck because he was headed back to Iraq with the 103rd Airborne....a fake unit. You and that guy need to hook up and have a few beers and dream about the things you wish were true.....him being a soldier......and you being a booster meeting Hauck. Neither event ever occurred.......not once.....you're full of it. You're a liar trying to make yourself feel important on a message board. Pathetic. You really need some help before you start to believe that the things you say actually happened.

[cats2506]

I have come in on this arguement late, but I have to tell you, that even for a smack board, this is a very weird thread. I would like to give my two cents.

I am a griz booster. I have never met Bobby and have not been to booster functions. I have observed him over the past five years and it seems to me that he was wound very tight initially, but has matured quite nicely into his position.

I don't know what happened when he was at Colorado. I don't know whether it is true or not. I do know that just because it is repeated numerous times it doesn't make it true and it doesn't make it false. I also know that just because it has more and more details as time goes on does not make it true either. We all played the telephone game in elementary school and the story at the end of the line was much different than the one at the beginnning. It still had plenty of details however.

I know for a fact that Bobby said that it was a shame that Lulay wasn't in the playoffs his Senior year. I know he made that statement that the cats were likely the most talented team in the conference. I know there is no way for an outsider to determine his state of mind. You are just speculating. It is likey coach speak said to make sure the other team has no bulletin board material. That in no way means that he is immature and insecure. It is likely a sign of maturity as a head coach.

If you dislike him, that is fine. You don't have to like your rival's head coach, and you don't even have to respect him. I don't expect you to. In fact, you are almost expected to dislike him. I am good with that. What I don't understand is how you can make judgements on his intentions and partake in character assassination based on internet rumors and innuendo.

Finally some reasond thought here. I dont think much of him or respect him, but that is from my impressions, and I have events that have happened that support those impressions. If you like him, I am fine with that, but GiW and ECG seem to think that if I dont conceed that he is gods gift to football and the state of Montana I am an idiot.

I have no problem in agreeing to disagree, now if some of the others can accept that everybody is not required to crown him we can move on and let this thread die.

[AlphaGriz1]

This story is true, I called the player in question and had them look behind the couch. They found a wallet, a brochure on plastic surgery (nose jobs) and a book on public relations checked out from a local library by a person with the initials "B.H."

This is where the story gets weird, the player has a younger brother that is being investigated for "under aged drinking at bars and impersonating a soldier in the 103rd Airbourne. His initials are DW.

Small world.

[cats2506]

This story is true, I called the player in question and had them look behind the couch. They found a wallet, a brochure on plastic surgery (nose jobs) and a book on public relations checked out from a local library by a person with the initials "B.H."

This is where the story gets weird, the player has a younger brother that is being investigated for "under aged drinking at bars and impersonating a soldier in the 103rd Airbourne. His initials are DW.

Small world.

Could the guy impersonating a soldier possibly be "Dirty"

[AlphaGriz1]

In this thread...........anythings possible.

[GrizinWashington]

If you like him, I am fine with that, but GiW and ECG seem to think that if I dont conceed that he is gods gift to football and the state of Montana I am an idiot.

Quite obviously, you ARE an idiot, because if you re-read my posts, you'll see that that is PRECISELY what I've said all alnog. In fact, I believe my post was along the lines of, "I don't give a sh*t whether you like or respect the guy or not. But if you post complete bullsh*t about him, I'll call you on it". How is that any different from GAW's post (which I will agree is a well-reasoned post)?

[Billings_Griz]

)In a perfect world, BH would be the next HC of MSU.

EDIT: 13 crown/7's later, I never read the thread, just speculating (as always)

[crazycat]

I have come in on this arguement late, but I have to tell you, that even for a smack board, this is a very weird thread. I would like to give my two cents.

I am a griz booster. I have never met Bobby and have not been to booster functions. I have observed him over the past five years and it seems to me that he was wound very tight initially, but has matured quite nicely into his position.

I don't know what happened when he was at Colorado. I don't know whether it is true or not. I do know that just because it is repeated numerous times it doesn't make it true and it doesn't make it false. I also know that just because it has more and more details as time goes on does not make it true either. We all played the telephone game in elementary school and the story at the end of the line was much different than the one at the beginnning. It still had plenty of details however.

I know for a fact that Bobby said that it was a shame that Lulay wasn't in the playoffs his Senior year. I know he made that statement that the cats were likely the most talented team in the conference. I know there is no way for an outsider to determine his state of mind. You are just speculating. It is likey coach speak said to make sure the other team has no bulletin board material. That in no way means that he is immature and insecure. It is likely a sign of maturity as a head coach.

If you dislike him, that is fine. You don't have to like your rival's head coach, and you don't even have to respect him. I don't expect you to. In fact, you are almost expected to dislike him. I am good with that. What I don't understand is how you can make judgements on his intentions and partake in character assassination based on internet rumors and innuendo.

Exactly. Finally a Griz fan that think rationally.

No one had done much but speculate and repeat statements they hear from others, but GiW, TamponGriz, ECG etal come in hear with their machetes. What the...? Get a hold of yourselves. You'd think we were talking about the Pope.

Meeting Hauck isn't hard to do, you should try it yourself, you might learn something. Just go to a booster function, walk up to him, shake his hand and ask him a couple questions. He's cordial enough to B.S. with you for a bit, just like any other coach.