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Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

Yes.

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

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rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No that would the the winless Griz.

Yeah, but records (facts) don't matter to (some) Griz fans. Like 5-4 is a better record than 17-2.

crazycat wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No that would the the winless Griz.

Yeah, but records (facts) don't matter to (some) Griz fans.

Speaking of facts......

Geez, you guys are testy. I wasn't talking about anything specific, just axeing.

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Billings_Griz wrote:Geez, you guys are testy. I wasn't talking about anything specific, just axeing.

Just saying....

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Geez, you guys are testy. I wasn't talking about anything specific, just axeing.

Just saying....

I can live w/ that.

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

crazycat wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

are you saying that if we would have won last night that we wouldn't have used as much energy? or are you actually implying that with every road trip we are going to lose the second game because of wasted energy in the first? either way, i have to say that i disagree with you. these guys are in amazing shape, and last nights game wasn't even as up-and-down as most. but thanks for the confidence heading into the game. and you can't be serious with your scores. um wins by 55 and the cats lose by 15? honestly, do you know much about basketball, or are you more of a football guy? your name suits you perfectly.

whitetrashgriz wrote:

crazycat wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

are you saying that if we would have won last night that we wouldn't have used as much energy? or are you actually implying that with every road trip we are going to lose the second game because of wasted energy in the first? either way, i have to say that i disagree with you. these guys are in amazing shape, and last nights game wasn't even as up-and-down as most. but thanks for the confidence heading into the game. and you can't be serious with your scores. um wins by 55 and the cats lose by 15? honestly, do you know much about basketball, or are you more of a football guy? your name suits you perfectly.

Was that sarcasm? I only ask because the CSUS/NAU trip is THE most grueling in the Big Sky Conference, especially when you have to go from sea level to 7k feet (the other way around isn't quite so bad). Then add in the effect of working their a$$es off (twice) in the 2nd half last night only to lose to a terrible team on a bad break/call or five, AND playing an afternoon game instead of an evening game tomorrow...

I would not be at all surprised if the scenerio crazycat proposed did indeed happen. I know the Cats will put up a helluva fight, but I just don't know if they will have the legs tomorrow. We do have a fairly deep bench working in our favor, but even the radio broadcasters hate that trip. I remember Dean lamenting about it on the Sports Nuts a few years ago. I said it this morning and will say it again, the Griz will probably steamroll the Hairnets tomorrow night.

grizzh8r wrote:

whitetrashgriz wrote:

crazycat wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

are you saying that if we would have won last night that we wouldn't have used as much energy? or are you actually implying that with every road trip we are going to lose the second game because of wasted energy in the first? either way, i have to say that i disagree with you. these guys are in amazing shape, and last nights game wasn't even as up-and-down as most. but thanks for the confidence heading into the game. and you can't be serious with your scores. um wins by 55 and the cats lose by 15? honestly, do you know much about basketball, or are you more of a football guy? your name suits you perfectly.

Was that sarcasm? I only ask because the CSUS/NAU trip is THE most grueling in the Big Sky Conference, especially when you have to go from sea level to 7k feet (the other way around isn't quite so bad). Then add in the effect of working their a$$es off (twice) in the 2nd half last night only to lose to a terrible team on a bad break/call or five, AND playing an afternoon game instead of an evening game tomorrow...

I would not be at all surprised if the scenerio crazycat proposed did indeed happen. I know the Cats will put up a helluva fight, but I just don't know if they will have the legs tomorrow. We do have a fairly deep bench working in our favor, but even the radio broadcasters hate that trip. I remember Dean lamenting about it on the Sports Nuts a few years ago. I said it this morning and will say it again, the Griz will probably steamroll the Hairnets tomorrow night.

I'm amazed at how people on this board call the egriz board a bunch of sugarcoaters and then in the same breath try to minimize losses to the likes of UNC football and SSU hoops (this year's edition). I mean these two teams are BAD. Is it the end of the season? No, of course not. But at the end of the season there's nothing worse than losing to teams like these knowing that had we beat them it may have made a difference in our overall year. In 2002 we were able to bounce back after losing to SSU and last year we came back in FB after losing to Chadron and losing three straight, so obviously it can be done again, but to act like it's no big deal is pure folly. Hopefully it'll have some kind of positive effect in that it ingrains the notion that you can't overlook anyone and that you must stay focused.

We weren't really that far from being in the playoffs last year in football. A win over arguably the worst team in the FCS might've been enough to get us past NAU or UM (both at home). Do that and we're 8-3 and we're fully confident heading into 2008. Losing to teams like these is a huge psychological wound. We'll see. Hopefully we can pull it out tomorrow somehow and I can eat my words, they'll taste delicious.

This year has a lot of similarities to 2002 in my mind. One of them is that we lost at Sacramento State to break a long win streak (10 then, 5 now) and then won at NAU the next night. That was the one year when Friday-Saturday scheduling was used. So it can be done. But I don't know why Sacramento State and/or Northern Colorado seem to bite us so often, when they don't pose too many problems for everybody else.

bozbobcat wrote:This year has a lot of similarities to 2002 in my mind. One of them is that we lost at Sacramento State to break a long win streak (10 then, 5 now) and then won at NAU the next night. That was the one year when Friday-Saturday scheduling was used. So it can be done. But I don't know why Sacramento State and/or Northern Colorado seem to bite us so often, when they don't pose too many problems for everybody else.

It is without a doubt bizarre. The eighth wonder of the world. If ever there's been a school that should know from experience that it needs to guard against this, it's MSU. Maybe that's the answer. We're so worried it's going to happen again, once it starts to happen all those past nightmares creep in and boo-hoo.

grizzh8r wrote:

whitetrashgriz wrote:

crazycat wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

are you saying that if we would have won last night that we wouldn't have used as much energy? or are you actually implying that with every road trip we are going to lose the second game because of wasted energy in the first? either way, i have to say that i disagree with you. these guys are in amazing shape, and last nights game wasn't even as up-and-down as most. but thanks for the confidence heading into the game. and you can't be serious with your scores. um wins by 55 and the cats lose by 15? honestly, do you know much about basketball, or are you more of a football guy? your name suits you perfectly.

Was that sarcasm? I only ask because the CSUS/NAU trip is THE most grueling in the Big Sky Conference, especially when you have to go from sea level to 7k feet (the other way around isn't quite so bad). Then add in the effect of working their a$$es off (twice) in the 2nd half last night only to lose to a terrible team on a bad break/call or five, AND playing an afternoon game instead of an evening game tomorrow...

I would not be at all surprised if the scenerio crazycat proposed did indeed happen. I know the Cats will put up a helluva fight, but I just don't know if they will have the legs tomorrow. We do have a fairly deep bench working in our favor, but even the radio broadcasters hate that trip. I remember Dean lamenting about it on the Sports Nuts a few years ago. I said it this morning and will say it again, the Griz will probably steamroll the Hairnets tomorrow night.

no...it wasn't sarcasm. trust me, i know all about the trip. let me say first that despite their record, sac state is not terrible. i have had the opportunity to watch them play southern utah and they have enough talent to beat some teams this year. second, they have given us problems their for as long as i can remember. if you recall, my first post after the loss was that this is the trip that i fear the most. so in one breath you say what a hard trip it is, and in the next say you wouldn't be surprised if we lose our next game by 50! all i am saying is we lost a close game on the road by one point in a conference where no one has any idea who will be at the top. honestly, when all is said and done i wouldn't be surprised if a team with a .500 gets in the tourney. this team has more heart than any that we have seen in years. the trip is always hard, and the players and coaches know that this isn't an excuse. we have won their before after playing at sac, and their is no reason we can't again. so you guys keep believing that this team will lose by 50, and i'll keep believing that they have more character than you guys give them credit for. i'm not about to get into a pissing match with other fans 2 games into the season about how bad this team is. they are still very talented, and very well coached. and if anyone wants to put actual money where their moths are on this fifty point nonsense i'd be happy to.

money where their moths are

Not to be the spelling police, but this made me laugh. I usually have the exact opposite: moths in my wallet where my money should be!!

whitetrashgriz wrote:

grizzh8r wrote:

whitetrashgriz wrote:

crazycat wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:

rtb wrote:

Billings_Griz wrote:Are these two the "bottom of the barrel" of the BSC?

In basketball right now? No, that would the the winless Griz.


Big Sky Conf
Idaho St. 2-0
Northern Arizona 3-1
Portland St. 2-2
Northern Colorado 2-2
Eastern Wash. 2-2
Montana St. 1-1
Weber St. 1-1
Sacramento St. 1-3
Montana 0-2

With any luck (and we need lots of it) the Cats and Griz could be tied after Saturday night.

Oh, I don't think you'll need much luck. We're toast after burning up all our energy trying to catch Sac and they will still be celebrating when UM gets there. So UM 103, SSU 48. NAU 81, MSU 65. We'll both be 1-2, but not in last place. Yippee!!! Sac will be 1-4.

are you saying that if we would have won last night that we wouldn't have used as much energy? or are you actually implying that with every road trip we are going to lose the second game because of wasted energy in the first? either way, i have to say that i disagree with you. these guys are in amazing shape, and last nights game wasn't even as up-and-down as most. but thanks for the confidence heading into the game. and you can't be serious with your scores. um wins by 55 and the cats lose by 15? honestly, do you know much about basketball, or are you more of a football guy? your name suits you perfectly.

Was that sarcasm? I only ask because the CSUS/NAU trip is THE most grueling in the Big Sky Conference, especially when you have to go from sea level to 7k feet (the other way around isn't quite so bad). Then add in the effect of working their a$$es off (twice) in the 2nd half last night only to lose to a terrible team on a bad break/call or five, AND playing an afternoon game instead of an evening game tomorrow...

I would not be at all surprised if the scenerio crazycat proposed did indeed happen. I know the Cats will put up a helluva fight, but I just don't know if they will have the legs tomorrow. We do have a fairly deep bench working in our favor, but even the radio broadcasters hate that trip. I remember Dean lamenting about it on the Sports Nuts a few years ago. I said it this morning and will say it again, the Griz will probably steamroll the Hairnets tomorrow night.

no...it wasn't sarcasm. trust me, i know all about the trip. let me say first that despite their record, sac state is not terrible. i have had the opportunity to watch them play southern utah and they have enough talent to beat some teams this year. second, they have given us problems their for as long as i can remember. if you recall, my first post after the loss was that this is the trip that i fear the most. so in one breath you say what a hard trip it is, and in the next say you wouldn't be surprised if we lose our next game by 50! all i am saying is we lost a close game on the road by one point in a conference where no one has any idea who will be at the top. honestly, when all is said and done i wouldn't be surprised if a team with a .500 gets in the tourney. this team has more heart than any that we have seen in years. the trip is always hard, and the players and coaches know that this isn't an excuse. we have won their before after playing at sac, and their is no reason we can't again. so you guys keep believing that this team will lose by 50, and i'll keep believing that they have more character than you guys give them credit for. i'm not about to get into a pissing match with other fans 2 games into the season about how bad this team is. they are still very talented, and very well coached. and if anyone wants to put actual money where their moths are on this fifty point nonsense i'd be happy to.

Wow, you just said.......nothing. Sac State isn't terrible, because they played well against SUU and they will win a few games? How many is a few? 3? So 3-13, that's not terrible?

Everyone realizes that SSU has given us trouble there forever.

No one's questioning their character or saying we'll lose by 50. Show me where someone said we'll lose by 50. NAU is good, so are we, but I would say the same thing about anyone else in our conference if they were in the same situation.

I don't recall anyone saying we have a bad team. We're talking about losing to SSU and that it's a game we should've won and what the long term effect of it will be. I'm basically saying losses like this 'tend' to come back to haunt you and that this loss is the type that is hard to rebound from both physically and emotionally.

whitetrashgriz wrote:no...it wasn't sarcasm. trust me, i know all about the trip. let me say first that despite their record, sac state is not terrible. i have had the opportunity to watch them play southern utah and they have enough talent to beat some teams this year. second, they have given us problems their for as long as i can remember. if you recall, my first post after the loss was that this is the trip that i fear the most. so in one breath you say what a hard trip it is, and in the next say you wouldn't be surprised if we lose our next game by 50! all i am saying is we lost a close game on the road by one point in a conference where no one has any idea who will be at the top. honestly, when all is said and done i wouldn't be surprised if a team with a .500 gets in the tourney. this team has more heart than any that we have seen in years. the trip is always hard, and the players and coaches know that this isn't an excuse. we have won their before after playing at sac, and their is no reason we can't again. so you guys keep believing that this team will lose by 50, and i'll keep believing that they have more character than you guys give them credit for. i'm not about to get into a pissing match with other fans 2 games into the season about how bad this team is. they are still very talented, and very well coached. and if anyone wants to put actual money where their moths are on this fifty point nonsense i'd be happy to.

Come on wtg; don't put words in my mouth... Nowhere did I say we would lose by 50, nor did CC. We said CSUS might lose by 50 to UM. I already said I fully expect the Cats to be competitive at NAU, and I agree that this team has a lot of charachter. I want them to win just as bad as you do. I would be thrilled with a split, especially on this trip. However, the deck is stacked against them. A win against the Lumberjacks would prove they have the charachter we think they do.

The sky is not falling and we don't have a "bad" team, I am just a literalist. After all, I am a Bobcat fan!