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Money: Cats rule research; Griz win athletics
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:53 am
by crazycat
Might as well just put this in smack, cuz that's where it'd go. The old better academics debate.
http://bozemandailychronicle.com/articl ... atgriz.txt
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:01 am
by Cat-theotherwhitemeat
Jock vs. Nerd
Which one do you want to be?

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:08 am
by catamaran
Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:Jock vs. Nerd
Which one do you want to be?

Need I say more

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:08 am
by badasscat
“Honestly, I never look at these reports to line up what we’re doing better than anyone else.” Rather, Gamble said, he looks at the data for direction on where MSU can improve.
I wish more people took this approach. It's getting a little, actually it's getting very old hearing people complain that we need to do this and that, just so we can keep up with U, (regarding athletics facilities).
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:27 am
by SACCAT
catamaran wrote:Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:Jock vs. Nerd
Which one do you want to be?

Need I say more

I am Mclovin
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:33 am
by grizband
SACCAT wrote:catamaran wrote:Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:Jock vs. Nerd
Which one do you want to be?

Need I say more

I am Mclovin
The 25 year old, Hawaiian organ donor.
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:12 am
by BigBruceBaker
catamaran wrote:Cat-theotherwhitemeat wrote:Jock vs. Nerd
Which one do you want to be?

Need I say more

HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
Good one...noone can say anythin bout McLovin
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:09 pm
by CARDIAC_CATS
I see MSU closing the athletic $$ gap and widening the research $$ gap as we move forward!
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:21 pm
by tampa_griz
Gail Schontzler for The Bozeman Chronical wrote:The regents now require the two big university campuses to report on the “earmarked” funds they’re seeking from Congress in the federal budget, as well as their total spending on grants and contracts.
According to that report for fiscal 2007:
* MSU spent $102.1 million on research, vs. UM’s $62.1 million.
* MSU issued active licenses for its intellectual discoveries to a total of 130 companies, including 81 in Montana. UM had 24 licenses to companies, 15 of them in Montana.
* MSU had $257,621 in gross revenue from intellectual property licenses, while UM had zero.
Too bad there's no comparison of knee bruises and tonsil infections. Guess we'll just have to come to our own conclusions.
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:44 am
by BigBruceBaker
tampa_griz wrote:Gail Schontzler for The Bozeman Chronical wrote:The regents now require the two big university campuses to report on the “earmarked” funds they’re seeking from Congress in the federal budget, as well as their total spending on grants and contracts.
According to that report for fiscal 2007:
* MSU spent $102.1 million on research, vs. UM’s $62.1 million.
* MSU issued active licenses for its intellectual discoveries to a total of 130 companies, including 81 in Montana. UM had 24 licenses to companies, 15 of them in Montana.
* MSU had $257,621 in gross revenue from intellectual property licenses, while UM had zero.
Too bad there's no comparison of knee bruises and tonsil infections. Guess we'll just have to come to our own conclusions.
Tampa Griz.....what you guys do at UM should stay there. Dont bring us into your extra curricular activities please
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:57 am
by Topher
Believe it or not you just touched on President Dennison's sore spot. The man wants research dollars, and if you look at UM's plans for the future you will see that the "Stadium Expansion," is just smoke and mirrors. There is a reason why the Skaggs building is expanding continually each year, and if you have seen the plans for the Campus #2, covering our current golf course, you will see exactly what the future holds for the UM. Everybody talks about the bleachers they are putting on our football field, but the plans for the golf course are huge. They are basically trying to build a new campus, and why?
Graduate school dollars. Dennison wants to see the dropout rate go down, and to get more graduate students (for the very reason we have the research gap). In fact, Dennison is on record as saying it wouldn't be a bad thing to see undergrad enrollment stabolize, or go down. Our retainment is a joke, and this is because if you have a pulse, the U will admit you. No, you won't get a degree, but they will gladly let you spend $10,000 before you figure out college is more than keg stands and Griz games.
I have seen the plans for the new campus only once, but it is basically a miniature version of the oval. I appologize for not having a link, but I do know these plans exist and they are stunning.
In rebuttle, don't focus on the illusion of an expanding Washington Grizzly Stadium as the direction of this campus. Big changes are comming to the University of Montana, and only time will tell if those changes are wise.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:05 pm
by Topher
http://www.montanakaimin.com/index.php/ ... s_forward/
If you google search - University of Montana "South Campus" and click on the first option you can see the powerpoint. You will note that it has its own oval, and big building simply named "Research." I am guessing within ten years (the plan actually says 50) this becomes a reality, and dramatically changes the graduate student enrollment and amount of research dollars received by this school.
This is what George Dennison does. I currently go to Construction University of America.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:19 pm
by Eastcoastgriz
CARDIAC_CATS wrote:I see MSU closing the athletic $$ gap and widening the research $$ gap as we move forward!
Actually I think we are closing the gap on research dollars.
The Burns connection
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:16 pm
by Cats Back
We gained in research dollars when the administration sold our sole to former Senator Connnnnrad Bbburns and put his name on a building. That resulted in federal dollars flowing our way.
Now that Burns sits home and not on the appropriations committee it will be interesting to see if Tester picks up the torch and keeps the federal funds flowing our way.
I always thought it was a sell out to let Burns have his way with MSU. Hopefully we can stand on our own and not have to rely on politics.
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:37 pm
by GrizinWashington
sold our sole
Yep, nobody wins in the long run when you sell your fish!!

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:32 am
by CARDIAC_CATS
Topher wrote:http://www.montanakaimin.com/index.php/ ... s_forward/
If you google search - University of Montana "South Campus" and click on the first option you can see the powerpoint. You will note that it has its own oval, and big building simply named "Research." I am guessing within ten years (the plan actually says 50) this becomes a reality, and dramatically changes the graduate student enrollment and amount of research dollars received by this school.
This is what George Dennison does. I currently go to Construction University of America.
I doubt UM will be getting any more grants from NASA

Yes I said NASA and UM in the same sentence

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:10 am
by Topher
CARDIAC_CATS wrote:Topher wrote:http://www.montanakaimin.com/index.php/ ... s_forward/
If you google search - University of Montana "South Campus" and click on the first option you can see the powerpoint. You will note that it has its own oval, and big building simply named "Research." I am guessing within ten years (the plan actually says 50) this becomes a reality, and dramatically changes the graduate student enrollment and amount of research dollars received by this school.
This is what George Dennison does. I currently go to Construction University of America.
I doubt UM will be getting any more grants from NASA

Yes I said NASA and UM in the same sentence

I had the same reaction when I found out the U got money from NASA to begin with. I have no clue whether or not they will see money from them again, but I do believe this plan will go through because when Dennison wants something, he usually gets it. I'm curious if this passed or not.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:18 pm
by UMclassof2002
DumbbitchinKaiminarticlesayswhat?
Dumb bitch in Kaimin article wrote:Former golf association president Dianne Pickens said UM is an inconvenience to the community at times, and this would be the school’s chance to give back.
Missoula residents put up with noise, traffic and minor lawless behavior because of the student population, as well as student votes skewing the system, she said.
“For most residents, the benefit doesn’t reach beyond the football and basketball programs,” Pickens said.
Wow.
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:25 pm
by Old Skool Cat
UMclassof2002 wrote:DumbbitchinKaiminarticlesayswhat?
Dumb bitch in Kaimin article wrote:Former golf association president Dianne Pickens said UM is an inconvenience to the community at times, and this would be the school’s chance to give back.
Missoula residents put up with noise, traffic and minor lawless behavior because of the student population, as well as student votes skewing the system, she said.
“For most residents, the benefit doesn’t reach beyond the football and basketball programs,” Pickens said.
Wow.
And that was only you she was referring to 2002!

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:32 pm
by UMclassof2002
Old Skool Cat wrote:UMclassof2002 wrote:DumbbitchinKaiminarticlesayswhat?
Dumb bitch in Kaimin article wrote:Former golf association president Dianne Pickens said UM is an inconvenience to the community at times, and this would be the school’s chance to give back.
Missoula residents put up with noise, traffic and minor lawless behavior because of the student population, as well as student votes skewing the system, she said.
“For most residents, the benefit doesn’t reach beyond the football and basketball programs,” Pickens said.
Wow.
And that was only you she was referring to 2002!

