MSU Murder

navyT · Post by **navyT** » Sat May 31, 2008 1:59 pm

I agree that the crime committed by BOTH, Miller and Lebrum was heinous. They were vicious and had no mercy on their victim, who by the apparently never did anthing to either of them and if you were able to get more facts of the trial, found out the victim was not inovled in any dealings with either of them. By all accounts he was a very well liked and and decent person who made a very stupid mistake at a hard time point in his life. Even his family didn't try to blame anyone else for his decision as I heard them say in court. They said what he did was wrong and there was no excuse. They didn't blame the university, or even the athletic dept. We all know he didn't deserve what happened to him and that if Miller and Lebrum were not living in Bozeman he'd very likely still be alive. There hasn't been a murder since they were put in jail 2 years ago. From what I know, thankfully no one ever odeed or became an addict because of Wright's actions. I followed the case closely and even showed up in the court room once. It is interesting all the facts you don't get from the paper and tv. Be prepared, Lebrum's attorney could ask for a sentence review to try and get his sentence reduced more. At the most, he will come up for parole in 10 years. I know I don't want him back out on our streets I don't care if he says he wants to become a minister or not. As for Miller, we've got about 30 years before he comes up. [/b]

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Sat May 31, 2008 2:48 pm

Why are we rehashing this again?

futurebobcat · Post by **futurebobcat** » Sat May 31, 2008 2:54 pm

Mods... Delete

tampa_griz · Post by **tampa_griz** » Sat May 31, 2008 3:05 pm

This is your first post? Something doesn't smell right.

AlphaGriz1 · Post by **AlphaGriz1** » Sat May 31, 2008 3:23 pm

No need for this crap I agree.

cat legal troubles are in the rearview and ours are still full throttle. Just some coward griz fan posting to stir sh*t up

ImagineSanta · Post by **ImagineSanta** » Sat May 31, 2008 5:31 pm

This is a FAIL.

navyT · Post by **navyT** » Sat May 31, 2008 6:53 pm

this was supposed to be under the topic of "blaming msu for murder" thats all. just registered. anyway, thats why it's here, but as far as rehashing, i think murder in bozeman is worth thinking about and remembering and making sure the same mistakes arent made again. with monsters like those two it could have been any of us, their previous vicitms had nothing to do with drugs, etc. ok, nough said

GOKATS · Post by **GOKATS** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:15 pm

navyT wrote:this was supposed to be under the topic of "blaming msu for murder" thats all. just registered. anyway, thats why it's here, but as far as rehashing, i think murder in bozeman is worth thinking about and remembering and making sure the same mistakes arent made again. with monsters like those two it could have been any of us, their previous vicitms had nothing to do with drugs, etc. ok, nough said

Holy ******, Batman!!

We have a certified whacko!!

I'll back up a few posts and agree that this thread should be 'deleted'.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:18 pm

I really don't want to delete anything anybody says unless they are really crossing over a line of good behavior. In this case, it is a strange subject to be bringing up again, and isn't one that anyone seems to want to discuss again, but it isn't something that really crosses any lines ... so I'll move it to smack, just for housekeeping purposes.

GrizinWashington · Post by **GrizinWashington** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:49 pm

BAC gets the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval!!

BigBruceBaker · Post by **BigBruceBaker** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:54 am

GOKATS wrote:
navyT wrote:this was supposed to be under the topic of "blaming msu for murder" thats all. just registered. anyway, thats why it's here, but as far as rehashing, i think murder in bozeman is worth thinking about and remembering and making sure the same mistakes arent made again. with monsters like those two it could have been any of us, their previous vicitms had nothing to do with drugs, etc. ok, nough said
Holy ******, Batman!! We have a certified whacko!!

I'll back up a few posts and agree that this thread should be 'deleted'.

Lol it definitly could have been any of us. IF WE WERE DEALING COKE!!!

TIrwin24 · Post by **TIrwin24** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:48 am

I think this guy has had his hand in the blow with the statements that he's making here...

navyT · Post by **navyT** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:50 am

as i said baker, their previous victims (smashing in a guys jaw because as he went up to score a basket on him in a pick up game and domestic abuse and theft for the other)had nothing to do with drugs, like i said, it could have been any of us, there were no deals going on between these guys. it always helps to get a few of the facts before you speak.

TIrwin24 · Post by **TIrwin24** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:57 am

navyT wrote:as i said baker, their previous victims (smashing in a guys jaw because as he went up to score a basket on him in a pick up game and domestic abuse and theft for the other)had nothing to do with drugs, like i said, it could have been any of us, there were no deals going on between these guys. it always helps to get a few of the facts before you speak.

As the testimony in the courts went, there was supposed to be cash exchanged for coke.

Dude, figure your sh!t out and get your facts straight before posting garbage like this on this website.

navyT · Post by **navyT** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:12 am

The testimony in court said no such thing. Maybe you read something in the paper that was not accurate. Miller had planned to rob Wright for sometime and had even asked some one else to help him but they refused. then he asked Lebrum, who didn't. THERE WAS NO DEAL. THEY BOTH ADMIT THAT THIS WAS A PLANNED ROBBERY IN THEIR STATEMENTS, then go on to blame each other for the beating and shooting. Their statements are public record now. It is understandable but still amazing the misinformation about this case.

navyT · Post by **navyT** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:39 am

One last post, I hope. Everyone has a right to their opinion but there are certain facts. The truth about who really did the shooting in this case will probably never be known for sure but there are certain facts in the court documents that are there for anyone to read. Miller finally admitted to planning to rob Wright for some time because he thought he had a lot of money. He was wrong. Miller bought two guns two weeks before the murder. 5 or 6 days before the murder he took the gun with him to a bar, got in a fight and pistol whipped a guy. All admitted to by Miller and he was identified by the guy he pistol whipped. Miller was looking for someone to help him rob right, he asked another guy who said no then found Lebrum. They both admit to waiting outside Perkins where Miller had followed right to, then followed him, with the headlights off, to his apartment so he wouldn't see them. Miller wanted to do "business" with the MSU athletes who were dealing, wanted to be a dealer, no one trusted him. (in court records from the other dealers). Lebrum admitted Miller had been talking to him about the robbery for a while and then called him at home to come to Perkins that night. Wright was no big time dealer, he was not a supplier, but no excuse for dealing. He had no previous record of any kind and from reading the files was trying to find a way out but apparently it's easier to get in then out. I did know him fairly well, he is not the kind of person you had to worry about robbing you, beating you up, shooting you, but if you wanted to buy coke, you might have to worry that he'd sell you some. It was one stupid decision, but for some one who had done a lot of good in his short time, it's hard as someone who knew him to let it define his life. try not to let it. thanks

BigBruceBaker · Post by **BigBruceBaker** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:33 pm

navyT wrote:as i said baker, their previous victims (smashing in a guys jaw because as he went up to score a basket on him in a pick up game and domestic abuse and theft for the other)had nothing to do with drugs, like i said, it could have been any of us, there were no deals going on between these guys. it always helps to get a few of the facts before you speak.

Murder and robbery is a HUGE step from a fist fight and petty theft. That argument is making you look like a jackass. It wouldnt havent been any of us because we arent dealing coke. Wright was dealing coke. No matter how you look at it he was a SUPPLIER for people and giving them a highly illegal and very addictive substance that has wrecked lives and killed many people. He might have been a good guy but drug dealing...ESPECIALLY the harder drugs is inexcusable in my book.

AlphaGriz1 · Post by **AlphaGriz1** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:53 pm

TIrwin24 wrote:I think this guy uses his hands when he blows you can tell by the statements that he's making here...

Fixed that for you.

BigBruceBaker · Post by **BigBruceBaker** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:22 pm

AlphaGriz1 wrote:
TIrwin24 wrote:I think this guy uses his teeth to much when he blows you can tell by the statements that he's making here...
Fixed that for you.

Even better

AlphaGriz1 · Post by **AlphaGriz1** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:58 pm

Nice!

Now this thread has turned into something worth reading about.

Way to use your "head" on that one Triple B.