Griz/Bobcat

[MaZooLaGriz]

This game is of course always worrisome, especially because it almost always means more to you than us. That's arguably the case this year with the Griz probably getting a bid no matter what, and with the Cats probably not getting a bid no matter what.

So it's the season for you and a host for us, but it's also Griz/Bobcat so let's have fun. Hope a ton of you can make it over here the night before. And of course please do stop by the tailgates - we'd be pleased to have you as honored guests. Well, safety tasters at least.

[GOKATS]

It's Cat/griz! Always has been and always will be (with the exception of a few dyslexic griz fans.

[BobcatOninetails]

This game is of course always worrisome, especially because it almost always means more to you than us. That's arguably the case this year with the Griz probably getting a bid no matter what, and with the Cats probably not getting a bid no matter what.

So it's the season for you and a host for us, but it's also Griz/Bobcat so let's have fun. Hope a ton of you can make it over here the night before. And of course please do stop by the tailgates - we'd be pleased to have you as honored guests. Well, safety tasters at least.

Are you mentaL? It matters just as much to the GED alum of um, if not more, than it does Cat fans. If it didn't the streak wouldn't be brought up every year, which it is.

[GrizinWashington]

This game is of course always worrisome, especially because it almost always means more to you than us. That's arguably the case this year with the Griz probably getting a bid no matter what, and with the Cats probably not getting a bid no matter what.

So it's the season for you and a host for us, but it's also Griz/Bobcat so let's have fun. Hope a ton of you can make it over here the night before. And of course please do stop by the tailgates - we'd be pleased to have you as honored guests. Well, safety tasters at least.

Are you mentaL? It matters just as much to the GED alum of um, if not more, than it does Cat fans. If it didn't the streak wouldn't be brought up every year, which it is.

Well, I guess we can take this thread directly to the smack board now. Lasted all of three posts. Wowee.

[SonomaCat]

It was doomed to the smack board the moment the subject line was typed.

[Eastcoastgriz]

This game is of course always worrisome, especially because it almost always means more to you than us. That's arguably the case this year with the Griz probably getting a bid no matter what, and with the Cats probably not getting a bid no matter what.

So it's the season for you and a host for us, but it's also Griz/Bobcat so let's have fun. Hope a ton of you can make it over here the night before. And of course please do stop by the tailgates - we'd be pleased to have you as honored guests. Well, safety tasters at least.

Are you mentaL? It matters just as much to the GED alum of um, if not more, than it does Cat fans. If it didn't the streak wouldn't be brought up every year, which it is.

Well, I guess we can take this thread directly to the smack board now. Lasted all of three posts. Wowee.

I am really looking forward to this game. We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball and a significant lead on the offensive side. All this adds up to another Griz win. Lets have fun at the annual GRIZ/cat game!!!!

[Eastcoastgriz]

This game is of course always worrisome, especially because it almost always means more to you than us. That's arguably the case this year with the Griz probably getting a bid no matter what, and with the Cats probably not getting a bid no matter what.

So it's the season for you and a host for us, but it's also Griz/Bobcat so let's have fun. Hope a ton of you can make it over here the night before. And of course please do stop by the tailgates - we'd be pleased to have you as honored guests. Well, safety tasters at least.

Are you mentaL? It matters just as much to the GED alum of um, if not more, than it does Cat fans. If it didn't the streak wouldn't be brought up every year, which it is.

Well, I guess we can take this thread directly to the smack board now. Lasted all of three posts. Wowee.

I am really looking forward to this game. We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball and a significant lead on the offensive side. All this adds up to another Griz win. Lets have fun at the annual GRIZ/cat game!!!!

And if course no one is looking past the games this weekend.

[BobcatOninetails]

The first sentence of your post is smak. You reap what you sow.

[GrizinWashington]

Perhaps. But it would be nice to actually talk actual football, even concerning that game. I know I'm just as bad as the next guy, but it is frustrating that what could have been a good thread turned immediately moronic.

[GrizinWashington]

The first sentence of your post is smak. You reap what you sow.

Wasn't my post.

[BobcatOninetails]

The first sentence of your post is smak. You reap what you sow.

Wasn't my post.

I know. I was directing it at Mazoola but got on the phone and didn't get to post it immediately. Apologies.

[GrizinWashington]

The first sentence of your post is smak. You reap what you sow.

Wasn't my post.

I know. I was directing it at Mazoola but got on the phone and didn't get to post it immediately. Apologies.

No worries whatsoever. I, too, hate it when work interrupts my productivity!

[catatac]

Well since this is the first of the Cat\Griz threads... I'll throw in my two cents. The Griz have been winning games due to the turnover margin, and of course capitalizing on those turnovers. Literally I think they have been averaging 4 or 5 turnovers in their past 4 games??? They are very good at takeaways and I know they coach it, but there is some luck there as well. If we stay about even in the takeaway battle, it will go down to the wire. If we give them the ball 4 times like teams have been doing lately... we get smoked.

[TIrwin24]

We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball

Yeah, ok. Time to put down the hash there Cheech and look at reality.

[GrizinWashington]

I would say defense is about even. I'd give the offensive nod to Montana. Special teams may be a slight lean toward MSU this year (and it's been awhile since I've thought that).

[Eastcoastgriz]

We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball

Yeah, ok. Time to put down the hash there Cheech and look at reality.

What reality do you want to look at??

[whitetrashgriz]

i'd say that msu is better stopping the run, and um is better stopping the pass. last time i checked we were 1 and 2 in total defense with the griz leading, but by less than 10 yards. both units are very good. their offense is better, but i like our ability on special teams better this year.

[Eastcoastgriz]

We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball

Yeah, ok. Time to put down the hash there Cheech and look at reality.

I posted this on another thread. Tell me how the GRIZ overall defense is not better than the cats.

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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1. Montana............. 6 11 11 0 1 6 0 97 16.2
2. Weber State......... 7 17 16 1 0 5 2 139 19.9
3. Montana State....... 6 20 15 1 0 1 0 140 23.3

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Montana............. 6 196 101 7 51.5 1124 5.7 7 187.3
2. Weber State......... 7 251 130 12 51.8 1582 6.3 8 226.0
3. Northern Colorado... 6 181 110 7 60.8 1504 8.3 6 250.7
4. Portland State...... 6 215 128 5 59.5 1590 7.4 6 265.0
5. Montana State....... 6 231 148 11 64.1 1611 7.0 10 268.5

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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1. Montana............. 6 746 1124 367 1870 5.1 11 311.7
2. Weber State......... 7 741 1582 468 2323 5.0 16 331.9
3. Montana State....... 6 433 1611 422 2044 4.8 19 340.7

PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
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1. Montana............. 6 196 101 7 51.5 1124 7 104.3
2. Weber State......... 7 251 130 12 51.8 1582 8 105.7
3. Portland State...... 6 215 128 5 59.5 1590 6 126.2
4. Northern Arizona.... 7 265 142 10 53.6 1998 14 126.8
5. Montana State....... 6 231 148 11 64.1 1611 10 127.4

OPPONENT 1ST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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1. Montana............. 6 39 51 10 100
2. Montana State....... 6 31 72 7 110

OPP 4TH-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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1. Montana............. 6 2 12 16.7
2. Sacramento State.... 6 1 4 25.0
3. Montana State....... 6 4 10 40.0

OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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1. Montana............. 6 23 71 32.4
2. Weber State......... 7 35 103 34.0
3. Montana State....... 6 31 86 36.0

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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1. Montana State....... 6 191 433 2.3 9 72.2
2. Northern Arizona.... 7 219 506 2.3 8 72.3
3. Sacramento State.... 6 175 546 3.1 8 91.0
4. Eastern Washington.. 6 215 553 2.6 2 92.2
5. Weber State......... 7 217 741 3.4 8 105.9
6. Montana............. 6 171 746 4.4 4 124.3

[grizzh8r]

I would say defense is about even. I'd give the offensive nod to Montana. Special teams may be a slight lean toward MSU this year (and it's been awhile since I've thought that).

Wow. We actually agree on something.



However, with all the injuries the Cats have sustained to their DL, I might give the Griz the slight nod on defense as well. I'd definately feel better about Cat/Griz game if MSU can keep players healthy this next weekend, and get a few players better over the course of a couple weeks...

[Eastcoastgriz]

We have a slight edge on the defensive side of the ball

Yeah, ok. Time to put down the hash there Cheech and look at reality.

What reality do you want to look at??

Some more interesting stats:

KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Eastern Washington.. 6 25 623 1 24.9
2. Montana............. 6 21 504 0 24.0
3. Northern Colorado... 6 25 595 1 23.8
4. Weber State......... 7 19 436 0 22.9
5. Idaho State......... 6 39 846 0 21.7
6. Portland State...... 6 25 510 0 20.4
7. Northern Arizona.... 7 19 386 0 20.3
8. Sacramento State.... 6 29 521 0 18.0
9. Montana State....... 6 16 239 0 14.9

PUNTING G No. Yards Avg/P PR Avg TB Net/P
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1. Montana............. 6 24 1032 43.0 61 2.5 4 37.1
2. Montana State....... 6 38 1645 43.3 128 3.4 6 36.8

|--Gained--||---Lost---|
TURNOVER MARGIN G Fum Int Tot Fum Int Tot Mar Per/G
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1. Weber State......... 7 7 12 19 5 5 10 +9 1.29
2. Montana............. 6 4 7 11 4 3 7 +4 0.67
3. Montana State....... 6 4 11 15 6 7 13 +2 0.33

PUNT RETURN AVG G Ret Yds TD Avg
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1. Montana............. 6 8 121 0 15.1
2. Idaho State......... 6 9 125 1 13.9
3. Northern Arizona.... 7 15 160 0 10.7
4. Weber State......... 7 18 184 0 10.2
5. Montana State....... 6 19 193 1 10.2

FIRST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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1. Weber State......... 7 57 87 10 154
2. Portland State...... 6 15 105 11 131
3. Northern Arizona.... 7 49 60 19 128
Montana............. 6 68 50 10 128
5. Idaho State......... 6 32 76 13 121
6. Eastern Washington.. 6 24 85 10 119
7. Sacramento State.... 6 42 60 13 115
8. Montana State....... 6 51 49 3 103

SACKS BY G Sacks Yards
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1. Northern Arizona.... 7 35 263
2. Weber State......... 7 22 131
3. Eastern Washington.. 6 21 128
4. Montana State....... 6 20 120
5. Sacramento State.... 6 16 105
6. Portland State...... 6 14 107
7. Northern Colorado... 6 13 93
8. Montana............. 6 11 62

PENALTIES G No Yds Avg/G
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1. Montana State....... 6 40 301 50.2
2. Montana............. 6 38 371 61.8
4TH-DN CONVERSIONS G Conv Att Pct
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1. Montana............. 6 9 13 69.2
2. Weber State......... 7 4 6 66.7
3. Idaho State......... 6 7 14 50.0
4. Sacramento State.... 6 5 12 41.7
5. Northern Colorado... 6 3 8 37.5
6. Northern Arizona.... 7 2 6 33.3
7. Portland State...... 6 3 10 30.0
8. Eastern Washington.. 6 1 6 16.7
9. Montana State....... 6 0 3 0.0

RED ZONE OFFENSE G RedZone Percent TDs R/P FG-AT Fumb/Int/Downs/Other
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1. Weber State......... 7 24-27 88.9 22 10/12 2-2 2/ 1/ 0/ 0
2. Idaho State......... 6 15-18 83.3 11 7/4 4-5 0/ 0/ 2/ 0
3. Northern Arizona.... 7 22-27 81.5 16 15/1 6-8 0/ 1/ 2/ 0
4. Sacramento State.... 6 13-16 81.2 11 7/4 2-4 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
Northern Colorado... 6 13-16 81.2 7 3/4 6-8 0/ 0/ 1/ 0
6. Montana State....... 6 16-20 80.0 10 6/4 6-9 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
7. Eastern Washington.. 6 17-22 77.3 14 7/7 3-4 1/ 2/ 0/ 1
8. Montana............. 6 20-27 74.1 15 10/5 5-8 0/ 0/ 2/ 2

RED ZONE DEFENSE G RedZone Percent TDs R/P FG-AT Fumb/Int/Downs/Other
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1. Northern Colorado... 6 14-23 60.9 9 7/2 5-8 2/ 3/ 1/ 0
2. Eastern Washington.. 6 19-26 73.1 10 2/8 9-14 0/ 0/ 1/ 1
3. Montana State....... 6 15-20 75.0 15 9/6 0-2 0/ 1/ 2/ 0
4. Montana............. 6 12-15 80.0 7 4/3 5-6 0/ 1/ 1/ 0

3RD-DN CONVERSIONS G Conv Att Pct
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1. Weber State......... 7 39 86 45.3
2. Montana............. 6 35 83 42.2
3. Sacramento State.... 6 38 97 39.2
4. Montana State....... 6 33 89 37.1

OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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1. Montana............. 6 23 71 32.4
2. Weber State......... 7 35 103 34.0
3. Montana State....... 6 31 86 36.0

TIME OF POSSESSION G Total Time Avg/G
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1. Montana............. 6 202:23 33:432. Sacramento State.... 6 199:40 33:16
3. Weber State......... 7 221:53 31:41
4. Montana State....... 6 183:06 30:31