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I was once told by an insider on the FB team that groves was unfamiliar with the Cat offense.

If that was the case he sure picked it up this weekend. If I was the D coordinators for EWU and UM I would be re-skeeming my original game plan.

Can't drop everybody in pass coverage or blitz all game now.

WELCOME BACK, RUN GAME!!!!

thuss wrote:I was once told by an insider on the FB team that groves was unfamiliar with the Cat offense.

If that was the case he sure picked it up this weekend.

Dude, even Imaho State had a 100 yard rusher against Sac State.

Whats your point, DUDE?

Every team in the league had somebody throw for more than 100 yds against NAU.

Every team in the league scored an offensive touchdown against NAU.

so, again what is your point?

thuss wrote:Whats your point, DUDE?

My point is that I wouldn't be welcoming back the running game after one 100 yard game against Sac State.

thuss wrote:Every team in the league had somebody throw for more than 100 yds against NAU.

Every team in the league scored an offensive touchdown against NAU.

I thought this thread was about the MSU running game.

thuss wrote:so, again what is your point?

My point is that I wouldn't be welcoming back the running game after one 100 yard game against Sac State.

Okay I will accept your point as long as you accept the point that the griz are the only team possibly in the world that didn't pass for over 100 yds against NAU or score an offensive TD.

Man that NAU defense must have been tough. Or maybe that griz offense is showing signs of weakness.

thuss wrote:Okay I will accept your point as long as you accept the point that the griz are the only team possibly in the world that didn't pass for over 100 yds against NAU or score an offensive TD.

Well, that stats don't lie. Our 23-0 road win was accomplished without an offense that day.


This relates to MSU's running game, how?

UMclassof2002 wrote:

thuss wrote:I was once told by an insider on the FB team that groves was unfamiliar with the Cat offense.

If that was the case he sure picked it up this weekend.

Dude, even Imaho State had a 100 yard rusher against Sac State.

ISU averages 170 rushing yards per game (3 less than the Griz) so I'm not sure if you are trying to insult ISU or Sac or what exaclty that meant.

CelticCat wrote:

UMclassof2002 wrote:

thuss wrote:I was once told by an insider on the FB team that groves was unfamiliar with the Cat offense.

If that was the case he sure picked it up this weekend.

Dude, even Imaho State had a 100 yard rusher against Sac State.

ISU averages 170 rushing yards per game (3 less than the Griz) so I'm not sure if you are trying to insult ISU or Sac or what exaclty that meant.

I'm saying ISU has only had a 100 yard rusher in three games this year and they were all against shi tty defenses, one of which was Sac State. Therefore, I wouldn't be trumpeting the return of the ground game based on one performance against said Hornets.

UMclassof2002 wrote:

CelticCat wrote:

UMclassof2002 wrote:

thuss wrote:I was once told by an insider on the FB team that groves was unfamiliar with the Cat offense.

If that was the case he sure picked it up this weekend.

Dude, even Imaho State had a 100 yard rusher against Sac State.

ISU averages 170 rushing yards per game (3 less than the Griz) so I'm not sure if you are trying to insult ISU or Sac or what exaclty that meant.

I'm saying ISU has only had a 100 yard rusher in three games this year and they were all against shi tty defenses, one of which was Sac State. Therefore, I wouldn't be trumpeting the return of the ground game based on one performance against said Hornets.

2002 ISU features a 2 back O and hands off to them by about a 50/50 split this year (hb misses their 5 wide lets fling the football game plan of last year btw)

the number i would be concentrating on is 170 yards per game

So if I can't trumpet the return of a ground game based on stats that Umclass2002 has graced us with. Can I trumpet the loss of an offense for the griz based on the stats they put up this weekend agains the worst team in the league?

Simple question!!

thuss wrote:So if I can't trumpet the return of a ground game based on stats that Umclass2002 has graced us with. Can I trumpet the loss of an offense for the griz based on the stats they put up this weekend agains the worst team in the league?

Simple question!!

Do whatever you want, MSU still has an unproven ground game.


Why did you start a thread about the Bobcats rushing attack? You've done nothing but post about the Griz lack of O vs. NAU.

Actually i am proving to you that your fact about the ISU rusher has no relevance in my statement about the MSU rushing game.

For instance I will accept your opinion that MSU's rushing game is not coming back if you accept my opinion that UofM's offense is fading away.

ISU has a good rushing game and I would love for you to compare ours to theirs. They are averaging four yards a game less than the griz. I would say that our rushing game is back.

Your initial point had no bearing on my first statement.

thuss wrote:Actually i am proving to you that your fact about the ISU rusher has no relevance in my statement about the MSU rushing game.

For instance I will accept your opinion that MSU's rushing game is not coming back if you accept my opinion that UofM's offense is fading away.

ISU has a good rushing game and I would love for you to compare ours to theirs. They are averaging four yards a game less than the griz. I would say that our rushing game is back.

Your initial point had no bearing on my first statement.

MSU's inability to run the ball is independent of Montana's offense. The two have NOTHING to do with each other. I don't know what you keep trying to introduce this into the discussion.

In retrospect, you are correct that ISU's running game is far superior to yours. My only point is that Sac State's defense sucks and so I wouldn't make any broad based claims deriving from one game against their weak D.

If your point is Sac States d sucks than my point is the whole entire team for NAU sucks.

I guess we'll see how many yds the giz o puts up against the sac st. defense this weekend.

thuss wrote:If your point is Sac States d sucks than my point is the whole entire team for NAU sucks.

And my point is that Montana vs. NAU has nothing to do with Groves running the football.

thuss wrote:I guess we'll see how many yds the giz o puts up against the sac st. defense this weekend

When Lex hangs 150 on them, it will only serve to underscore my point that Sac State is not a good barometer to guage offensive ground gaining ability.

If Lex is so much better than Groves than he'd better put up more than 150 against what you claim to be the ****** run defense of Sac. St.

Otherwise you would be putting our rush offense into the same sentence as your rush off.

Atleast 180 is what he'd better put up to back you up.

thuss wrote:If Lex is so much better than Groves than he'd better put up more than 150 against what you claim to be the ****** run defense of Sac. St.

Otherwise you would be putting our rush offense into the same sentence as your rush off.

Atleast 180 is what he'd better put up to back you up.

Do you even watch football?


With any kind of decent, protectable lead the Griz will be sitting as many starters as possible to rest for the Brawl. What I mean is that Bobby will be looking to sit Lex if we get up by a few TD's. So it is hard to say how many yards Lex will get. I will say he breaks 100 in the first half and plays maybe one series in the second.

UMclassof2002 wrote:

thuss wrote:If your point is Sac States d sucks than my point is the whole entire team for NAU sucks.

And my point is that Montana vs. NAU has nothing to do with Groves running the football.

thuss wrote:I guess we'll see how many yds the giz o puts up against the sac st. defense this weekend

When Lex hangs 150 on them, it will only serve to underscore my point that Sac State is not a good barometer to guage offensive ground gaining ability.

Hate to say it, but I agree with a friggin' Griz fan here. While I was stoked to see some life from the MSU run game (Groves did look better than Bass or Domineck) you can't really start bragging about the MSU rushing attack - it was against the perennial league cellar-dwellar. After EWU, not that great of a defense either, if Groves runs wild then maybe people can start bragging. For now, he had a solid game against a mediocre team and did have some good looking moves, but I wouldn't start writing home about it. Hilliard should throw down on Scrotum State.

Okay.

However if you look at my post I said the bobcats Run Game is back. I didn't say that groves is the second coming of Ryan Johnson and I didn't say that we now have the most dominating rushing offense in the entire nation. I simply said "cats showing signs of two headed monster" and then welcomed back the run game. It has been a while since we have had a 100 yd rushing RB and 3td to go with it.

UMclass2002 blew my statement way out of proportion. He thought I was saying that Groves deserves to be on the Payton watch list.

I was being optimistic. 100 yds and 3td from a running back against any team is a good sign of things. Don't be a pessimist.