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by MSUcantouchus » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:11 am
I think someone needs to call out Dissly. Might as well be ol Peed. We all agree he has tremendous athletic ability but it seems to me it is WASTED when he only casts 3's from deep. I think when they are not going in, he sort of disappears for long streaches of the game. He even seems to drive alot less than he did his freshman year.
Dudes that can cast threes with his percentage are a dime a dozen. By the way he is shooting .298 from three. We could put nearly anyone out there to do that. I think he has actually regressed from last year. Last year it was .333. His freethrow percentage is down to 52% from 72%. His minates are up and his points are down. I think we need to have him step up big time this year if we want any success. I would like to see him take it to the hole a bit more. Maybe get an easy bucket or two to get him going and then maybe a 3 a little later after he is in rythem.
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by MSUcantouchus » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:12 am
That is big al tongiht after he blocks every criswell shot that gunner flings up.
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by iaafan » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:57 am
The strange thing about Dissly is that he has one of the best looking shots from the time he sets it up to the release to the arch. His percentage is way below technique. I'm amazed he doesn't hit more. You're right he needs to penetrate more, because he's also very good at creating a shot for himself off the drive and is a good passer.
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by mslacat » Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:24 pm
For such a big scrapping kid Dissly shooting is really effected by injury and consecutive games. From what I have seen his point production really starts to take a dive on second, by the third game point wise he is non-existent. I was also told that last week his ankle was still bugging him and that was the main reason for his low point total. To Dissly credit though, even when he is not shooting well (or in some cases shooting at all) he is a still a big factor in the games with rebinding, defense, passing, and taking BIG shots, so I have to be happy with that.
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by wbtfg » Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:37 pm
I agree that I would love to see Dis take it to the bucket more, but I think that he's actually playing better this year than last....he's just not scoring as much. He's playing better defense, he's easily the best passer on the team, and he grabs some big rebounds. Once his ankle heals up, I think that he will bring this team to the next level.
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by Helcat72 » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:12 pm
To his credit he has stopped taking a lot of threes and has sought to get his points when he can. When his injury is healed I look for him to start going to the hole more and let the threes come within the offense rather than going outside and waiting for someone to feed him.
We have two pretty good three point shooters in Jeffereson and Miller. Durham's offense is a couple of threes a game or a steal here and there. We don't really need another three point shooter..we need a slasher!
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by ESGGCG » Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:14 pm
In replying to "peedintunnel", No, I don't think we could put "just anyone" out there to replace Dissly! Even for an armchair quarterback, looking at one stat, such as shooting is pretty shallow.... Having Dissly on the floor makes each and every Bobcat better. His hustle, and passing make him an excellent player. Perhaps he does need to take it to the bucket more often, and be a little more selfish. Up to this point, he is busy making unselfish passes that help the team, rather than his stats! What the Bobcats need are team players, and I think they are coming together!
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by MSUcantouchus » Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:42 pm
In replying to "peedintunnel", No, I don't think we could put "just anyone" out there to replace Dissly! Even for an armchair quarterback, looking at one stat, such as shooting is pretty shallow.... Having Dissly on the floor makes each and every Bobcat better. His hustle, and passing make him an excellent player. Perhaps he does need to take it to the bucket more often, and be a little more selfish. Up to this point, he is busy making unselfish passes that help the team, rather than his stats! What the Bobcats need are team players, and I think they are coming together!
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I didn't say anyone could replace Dissly. I said "Dudes that can cast threes with his percentage are a dime a dozen. We could put nearly anyone out there to do that." There are alot of intangibles that he brings but I just think he needs to step it up a bit. Less long threes and more taking it to the hole.
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by MSU88 » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:56 am
peedintunnel wrote:In replying to "peedintunnel", No, I don't think we could put "just anyone" out there to replace Dissly! Even for an armchair quarterback, looking at one stat, such as shooting is pretty shallow.... Having Dissly on the floor makes each and every Bobcat better. His hustle, and passing make him an excellent player. Perhaps he does need to take it to the bucket more often, and be a little more selfish. Up to this point, he is busy making unselfish passes that help the team, rather than his stats! What the Bobcats need are team players, and I think they are coming together!
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I didn't say anyone could replace Dissly. I said "Dudes that can cast threes with his percentage are a dime a dozen. We could put nearly anyone out there to do that." There are alot of intangibles that he brings but I just think he needs to step it up a bit. Less long threes and more taking it to the hole.
It would not hurt to have Durr play more for Dissly.......I the small amount of minutes he sometimes gets, he always contributes. People wonder why he does shoot more when he is in....like was said before they have many shooters. Dissly is a nice player, but 35 minutes for him and 5 for Durr? Many "Bozemanites" question this as well. They are a good tandum together also. Any comments?
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by mslacat » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:04 am
The only comment I can say is that even if Dissly scores only 5 pts a game, he is still one of the better small forwards in the Big Sky for all of the other things he does on the floor. Just ask Criswell!
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by wbtfg » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:10 am
Dissly is our best passer, one of our best defensive players, one of the best rebounders, one of our most reliable free throw shooters, and as very few turnovers. He's in a bit of an offensive slump right now, but I am confident that he will have a break out game offensively, and I think that he will be one of the best players in the conference by the time the season is finished.
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by Helcat72 » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:05 pm
The only reason he's in a scoring slump is that there is only one ball out there. With Moss down low, Miller casting off from all over the place, and Jefferson establishing himself as a primary option, Dissly has subjugated himself to a role player...but take him out of the lineup and we lose badly! I think he is the prototype team player! If he could find a way to put the ball on the floor and slash like Nico Harrison did...he would be lethal!
I noticed on one posession during the friz game he got down about 12 feet from the rim at a 45 degree angle with his back to the basket, head faked, and shot a turn around jumper that went in. He only did it once though.
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by Cat Pride » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:18 pm
Helcat72 wrote:If he could find a way to put the ball on the floor and slash like Nico Harrison did...he would be lethal!
I noticed on one posession during the friz game he got down about 12 feet from the rim at a 45 degree angle with his back to the basket, head faked, and shot a turn around jumper that went in. He only did it once though.
I completely agree. Only thing is at this point in Nick's career, he seems to be too soft to do these things on a consistent basis. Yes he is onyl a sophomore, but we see little to no signs of him even trying to become a slasher. Based on his play thus far in his career, Nick is a below average 3-point shooter who can throw down a big dunk on an uncontested fast break. Those players are a dime a dozen in this league.
Nick will forever be known as a role player until he learns to take the ball to the hoop with some authority and gets off that 3-point arc. Then I think he can be one of the dominant players in the conference.
Then again, maybe we are too quick to judge....most sophomores are role players!
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by mslacat » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:29 pm
Helcat72 wrote:The only reason he's in a scoring slump is that there is only one ball out there........ .
I will add this to this statement is that I am hearing that Dissly ankle is still bothering him. He is playing through, but has had some minor set backs. He is not feeling as comfortable shooting the long three or slashing right now. Watch for him to start coming back strong as the season progresses.
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by velochat » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:32 pm
Maybe he's not in a slump at all, playing great team ball! If he's needed to score, he will. Why he takes shots from 5 to 10 feet past the 3-point line is a bit of a mystery, when he's otherwise so selfless. He might benefit from studying what Krysko's players do to get easy shots.
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by BozoneCat » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:17 pm
wbtfg wrote:Dissly is our best passer, one of our best defensive players, one of the best rebounders, one of our most reliable free throw shooters, and as very few turnovers. He's in a bit of an offensive slump right now, but I am confident that he will have a break out game offensively, and I think that he will be one of the best players in the conference by the time the season is finished.
Agree with most of what has been said here, but I don't know about the free-throw shooting - he's at 52% for the year right now! YIKES!

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by farmcats » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:38 pm
I agree with everything said concerning Dissley. The one thing I disagree with is about him becoming a slasher. He can’t put the ball on the floor ( he dribbles like he is pounding nails into the floor with the ball) and take to the basket. Last year there were a number of times he tried but he either was called for charging or got the ball taken from him. So far this year he hasn’t tried. Like some one said he is no Harrison. One thing I have heard ,Mick would like for him to post up more often and get a few put backs off the offensive boards.
The other thing is Nick 3-point shot is a line drive. It always looks like it is on line but if it doesn’t go in it either hit’s the front or the back of the rim. If he would put a little more arch his shooting percentage would go up.
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by Helcat72 » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:46 pm
Come to think of it you're right about his dribbling skills. The little post up move with his back to the basket he made Saturday night was probably his forte showing through.
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by BozoneCat » Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:18 am
Dissly has GOT to take it inside if he ever wants to become an all-Big Sky player. He is great at doing all the little things, which is a huge boost to any team. Unfortunately, he isn't going to kill anyone with his outside shooting - sure, he has nights where he can't miss, but they don't happen too often. Nick is such a big, strong kid that can jump out of the gym - I can't see many people being able to guard him if we post him up down low. He could make a living out of turn-around jumpers from 8 feet out - similar to a Jordan-style shot. Anyone taller that is guarding him, Nick could just fake him up and go around him.
When Dissly learns to take the ball inside more often and more effectively, he will also find himself looking at a lot more wide-open shots from the perimeter.
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by velochat » Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:18 am
He should model his game after Charles Barkley.