Bobcats @ Sac. State Game Day Thread

CatfaninGA · Post by **CatfaninGA** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:50 pm

Damn missed wide open 3, that would have been big.

Come on cats pull this out!

Post by **rtb** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:50 pm

No matter what happens in the next 40 seconds at least the Cats showed up tonight. Wonder where they were on Thursday?

CatfaninGA · Post by **CatfaninGA** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:51 pm

We get screwed again.

Post by **rtb** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:52 pm

I don't think we got screwed, I think that is just a great hustle play by them and poor job not protecting the ball by us.

CatfaninGA · Post by **CatfaninGA** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:53 pm

Kris said he stepped out of bounds. Home call goes their way.

CatfaninGA · Post by **CatfaninGA** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:54 pm

Now don't we need some big time help? Help me out.

PSU should now be 2.5 games up with 2 to play?

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:55 pm

we didn't blown out-I guess that's progress. We'll probably get second in the league and have to go on the road for the tourney. I'd almost rather finsh third and host a game.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:56 pm

I thought the NAU game would be close and MSU would get blown out in this one. Same net effect. I wonder how good teams that have a mindset that says they are going to win on the road do in road games? The BSCs three teams in the 'bracket bustet?' all got smoked. I really don't think MSU has as good a team as PSU, but we'll find out on Thursday. MSU needs to wear them out and hope UM can coast against EW.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:56 pm

We need a sweep next weekend combined with a Griz win over PSU to tie for first. Then it would come down to whether UM or Sac finishes 3rd in terms of the tiebreaker (if UM is 3rd we host, if Sac is 3rd PSU does). UM is probably liklier than Sac to finish 3rd, so there's still a very realistic chance of hosting.

Here are the standings going into the last weekend:

PSU 10-2
MSU 8-4
SAC 7-6
UM 6-5
WSU 6-7
EWU 5-7
NAU 4-8
ISU 3-10

Looking at the Sac/UM situation if MSU/PSU and Sac/UM finish tied, you don't break that tie with either head-to-head record or record vs. PSU/MSU (both would be 1-3). If EWU gets 5th, UM (probably) wins the tiebreaker there to get 4th, giving 1st to the Cats. If NAU gets 5th, it depends on the result of next week's UM/NAU and Sac/NAU games. Too many "if's" for the Bobcats, a win this weekend would've given them control of their own destiny. Sweep, and host! Oh well...

CatfaninGA · Post by **CatfaninGA** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:58 pm

If we finsish 2nd we go on the road, that makes no sense? Oh wait this is the Fullerton conf.

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:01 pm

CatfaninGA wrote:Now don't we need some big time help? Help me out.

PSU should now be 2.5 games up with 2 to play?

PSU is up 2 games, with 2 to play. Cats win the Sky if we sweep next weekend and the Vikes lose both games, so we will have to rely on our hippy friends to the west for help, IF we can manage to beat PSU. After how we played this weekend, that is a big if.

In my mind, it doesn't really matter where we finish in the league if we don't take first, because we can't play worth a damn on the road. I'm sorry, this team has just done nothing to show me they are capable of winning twice on the road to win the Big Sky tourney.

On the positive side, maybe a miracle will occur next weekend that will make up for the miracle(s) that occured last year to keep us out of the tourney...

BelgradeBobcat · Post by **BelgradeBobcat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:02 pm

The one positive of PSU hosting is it will be on a somewhat neutral court-not cracker box Stott Gym.

Does um need to beat NAU to finish 3rd?

In any case-any Big Sky game on ESPN this year might make me cringe! Our league just isn't very good.

BozoneCat · Post by **BozoneCat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:02 pm

CatfaninGA wrote:If we finsish 2nd we go on the road, that makes no sense? Oh wait this is the Fullerton conf.

It is a 6-team tourney, the top 2 teams get first-round byes. The first-round games are played at the homes of the 3 and 4 seeds, then the rest of the games are played at the 1st seed's site.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:11 pm

Hopefully the Conference office can do one of those scenario/seeding lists like they did last year...it could get very confusing if MSU/PSU tie for first and UM/SAC tie for third. Then you have to look at each scenario of outcomes of the other games...

Barnbat · Post by **Barnbat** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:13 pm

One game at a time. Seamus Boxley and that other fella. If cats beat PSU Montana may and then MT has NAU on the Monday after and SAC state has NAU at NAU. If what is said above is true about tie breakers we have a lot of one game at a time starting Thursday and going through Monday. Will be real quick after we get to Thursday. I hope the tie breaker comments are correct because it could be fun after all. Not a lot of joy at the moment but the moment is history.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:15 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote: Does um need to beat NAU to finish 3rd?

Nope...they only need to win 2 of 3 to guarantee at least a tie with Sac for 3rd

Oops, Kris just mistakenly said that MSU definitely owns tiebreaker over PSU.

Barnbat · Post by **Barnbat** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:04 pm

Everybody protects home court.
Montana State 10-4
Portland State 10-4
Montana 8-6
Sac State 7-7
Weber State 7-7
NAU 6-8

Tournament in Bozeman Montana plays NAU in Missoula and Weber vs SAC
Montana State can set the table if they show up Thursday the rest should fall in place. Montana does not have to win in Arizona.