Spring Ball news?

hugecat · Post by **hugecat** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:24 pm

It would also help to get Saucedo some reps on D in case they decide to bag the 3-4 and go back to 4-3.

94VegasCat · Post by **94VegasCat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:37 am

I was just thinking the same thing. We could use the 4-3 with some of the horses that it is looking like we will have.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:54 am

94VegasCat wrote:I was just thinking the same thing. We could use the 4-3 with some of the horses that it is looking like we will have.

Actually, we are going to the 3-4 because of the horses we have, the speed of the LBs and the size of the DL.

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:50 am

Cat Pride wrote:
94VegasCat wrote:I was just thinking the same thing. We could use the 4-3 with some of the horses that it is looking like we will have.
Actually, we are going to the 3-4 because of the horses we have, the speed of the LBs and the size of the DL.

The strength of the Defensive unit right now is LBs and 3-4 stresses LBs. The size of the DL wasn't probably the main reason for going there. That is the concern, whether the Nose and to DEs can handle the burden of handling the OL and leaving the LBs free to roam. The will probably have one of the 4 line backers rushing (typically Lowe) but that will vary trying to screw up blocking assignments.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:17 pm

BobcatLionFan wrote:The strength of the Defensive unit right now is LBs and 3-4 stresses LBs. The size of the DL wasn't probably the main reason for going there. That is the concern, whether the Nose and to DEs can handle the burden of handling the OL and leaving the LBs free to roam. The will probably have one of the 4 line backers rushing (typically Lowe) but that will vary trying to screw up blocking assignments.

100% agree wtih you on this. This scheme was tried last year, but kinda took a dive when Marudus got hurt until Epi King learned the ropes more by seasons end - and even then we didnt run it much. LBs are the key, and I'd put MSUs up against anyone in the conference. I seriously doubt there are 5 teams in the country (I-AA) with as good a group.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:18 pm

Cat Pride wrote:
BobcatLionFan wrote:The strength of the Defensive unit right now is LBs and 3-4 stresses LBs. The size of the DL wasn't probably the main reason for going there. That is the concern, whether the Nose and to DEs can handle the burden of handling the OL and leaving the LBs free to roam. The will probably have one of the 4 line backers rushing (typically Lowe) but that will vary trying to screw up blocking assignments.
100% agree wtih you on this. This scheme was tried last year, but kinda took a dive when Marudus got hurt until Epi King learned the ropes more by seasons end - and even then we didnt run it much. LBs are the key, and I'd put MSUs up against anyone in the conference. I seriously doubt there are 5 teams in the country (I-AA) with as good a group.

Do those Cal Poly linebackers return? They were probably the best I've seen.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:21 pm

CelticCat wrote:Do those Cal Poly linebackers return? They were probably the best I've seen.

I know at least Jordan Beck is gone....he was amazing, and probably made the others look better than they actually are.

Anyways, look for the Cats LBs to match Cal Poly's intensity and destruction towards offenses.

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:47 pm

Cat Pride wrote:
CelticCat wrote:Do those Cal Poly linebackers return? They were probably the best I've seen.
I know at least Jordan Beck is gone....he was amazing, and probably made the others look better than they actually are.

Anyways, look for the Cats LBs to match Cal Poly's intensity and destruction towards offenses.

Cal Poly will DEFINATELY suffer quite a bit from the loss of Beck. That guy was an animal and all over the field. I'm sure he made a lot of the defense look a lot better as if it was a busted play he always made the play. He always made the play when the play wasn't busted too

He was awesome I thought. May be a little undersized for NFL though.

hugecat · Post by **hugecat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:36 pm

Whoa. Cal Poly would have to lose more than just Beck for that defense to go too far south. As I recall they had a bundle of studs on that side of the ball. It would be interesting to know how many starters they have back.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:46 pm

They lost 5 or 6 guys on defense, but have two all-conf. guys back. One, Gocong, led nation in sacks with 17.5. Their big loss is Darrell Jones on offense, he gave MSU fits. 8 catches for 125 and a TD last year. Ran a punt back for a TD year before.

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:57 pm

iaafan wrote:They lost 5 or 6 guys on defense, but have two all-conf. guys back. One, Gocong, led nation in sacks with 17.5. Their big loss is Darrell Jones on offense, he gave MSU fits. 8 catches for 125 and a TD last year. Ran a punt back for a TD year before.

Yeah, the guy that scored/ran all over us for 2-3 years. They would throw him quick outs and he would just run right by our secondary guys. I am glad to see him go!

Also keep in mind our offense had growing pains last year when we played them and we still were right there at the end. I think our offense should be a lot more potent this year. We definately need to break that streak though and beat those guys!

Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:33 pm

CARDIAC_CATS wrote:
iaafan wrote:They lost 5 or 6 guys on defense, but have two all-conf. guys back. One, Gocong, led nation in sacks with 17.5. Their big loss is Darrell Jones on offense, he gave MSU fits. 8 catches for 125 and a TD last year. Ran a punt back for a TD year before.
Yeah, the guy that scored/ran all over us for 2-3 years. They would throw him quick outs and he would just run right by our secondary guys. I am glad to see him go!

Also keep in mind our offense had growing pains last year when we played them and we still were right there at the end. I think our offense should be a lot more potent this year. We definately need to break that streak though and beat those guys!

I just pointed out to a bunch of my Cal Poly co-workers that we need to make the roadie down to SLO this year for the game, and the "streak" smack talk started immediately thereafter (although they weren't even aware that we had ever played each other before until they researched it). Yes, we definitely do need to get that win this year. At this rate, if they didn't have lives outside of college football, they would be in danger of going griz** on me.

** "going griz" -- similar to "going postal", but more intentionally obnoxious and one notch less violent.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:23 pm

Beck is rated 30th (Cooper 12th) in TSN's draft mag. Didn't Beck win the Buchanen Award last year? I would think he'd be a little higher than that, but I realize it's not an exact science by any means.

JahGriz · Post by **JahGriz** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:44 pm

Beck did win the Buck Buchanan in '04. And second in votes was Chris Gocong at DT for Cal Poly.

John Wayne · Post by **John Wayne** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:29 pm

I watched Practice the other day and I think Quast is wrong. I know that in the past and usually first scrimmages are hard to watch and some times uguly but this year is different.

The D will have their hands full with the O but i look for some big plays from Matakis, Papich and Cogley on the Dline Mollahan, Marudis, Eppi king, Clive Lowe, at LB and the secondary will be better than last year with Force, and andre fuller. I think the O might come out on top this spring but I know Coach K, Linders, Christoff, and Berryhill will have things put together to compete with the o, nd those guys hate to loose or look bad at these things.

The O will fun to watch macandoo has his guys looking great, what more can you say about Travis and dominick has lost weight looks fast and a lot better physical condition, the recievers are deep this year with vets and the most tallented freshman class in a long time.
The O should pick up where they left off and I give the O two serries at most if they struggle at all and the rest of the night they should look great. Also Quast think about who are QB is, he is a winning sob and for once the O should score 4 to 5 tds. Especially when Kramer puts them into the red zone looks and gives them the short field to work in. We should be happy after saturday and I can't wait for the dinner tonight and to go to the stadium sat.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:38 pm

John Wayne

I live where you do!

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:47 pm

Mr. Wayne,

I am seldom wrong, and this is no exception. The first scrimmage is always sub par.

Sincerely,

Quast

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:51 pm

So Mike, why did Kramer move you to O-Line? I remember Hysell's last year and you really created havoc in the middle. I know Kramer wanted some toughness on the O-Line but the result was a very small D-line for 5 years.

DaGriz · Post by **DaGriz** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:08 pm

I just pointed out to a bunch of my Cal Poly co-workers that we need to make the roadie down to SLO this year for the game, and the "streak" smack talk started immediately thereafter (although they weren't even aware that we had ever played each other before until they researched it).

Speaking of Bay Area Cat, where do you watch Cat/Griz or do you head back for the game? I live a bit north of the Bay Area and probably won't head up to MT for the game this year

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Post by **SonomaCat** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:20 pm

DaGriz wrote:
I just pointed out to a bunch of my Cal Poly co-workers that we need to make the roadie down to SLO this year for the game, and the "streak" smack talk started immediately thereafter (although they weren't even aware that we had ever played each other before until they researched it).
Speaking of Bay Area Cat, where do you watch Cat/Griz or do you head back for the game? I live a bit north of the Bay Area and probably won't head up to MT for the game this year .

When I'm in town, I hit the party at Ricky's in San Leandro (just south of Oakland). It draws a couple hundred people -- a really good time ... except when the bad guys "get lucky." I'll probably be in MT for it this year, though.