Trash Can Tip

[nanacat]

Overall it wasn't a big deal but unfortunately that is the last thing people outside of MSU and their fans will remember. He showed his humanity in a frustrated moment, if that's what it was. But all the accolades, sweeping all the offensive POY awards, leading his team to a 15-1 record have all now been replaced by "Trash Can Tommy" thanks to social media. That's the sad reality.

[Cataholic]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

[CelticCat]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

Robby Hauck's name shouldn't be uttered in any connection whatsoever with Tommy Mellott.

[1890Griz]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

[TomCat88]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

Stats?
Troy was BSC defensive POY, BSC first team linebacker and quarterback. BSC newcomer of the year. Numerous all America selections. And more that isn’t coming to mind.

[1890Griz]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

Stats?
Troy was BSC defensive POY, BSC first team linebacker and quarterback. BSC newcomer of the year. Numerous all America selections. And more that isn’t coming to mind.

His senior year, would you put that below or Melliot’s 2024 season? I think Melliot has the better accolades, but im still unfamiliar with the stats. This is of course going off the OPY and Walter Payton awards, I’m unsure if Troy won the Buck

[TomCat88]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

Stats?
Troy was BSC defensive POY, BSC first team linebacker and quarterback. BSC newcomer of the year. Numerous all America selections. And more that isn’t coming to mind.

His senior year, would you put that below or Melliot’s 2024 season? I think Melliot has the better accolades, but im still unfamiliar with the stats. This is of course going off the OPY and Walter Payton awards, I’m unsure if Troy won the Buck

Lots of edits needed. I’ll wait for you to do that.

[coloradocat]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

Stats?
Troy was BSC defensive POY, BSC first team linebacker and quarterback. BSC newcomer of the year. Numerous all America selections. And more that isn’t coming to mind.

His senior year, would you put that below or Melliot’s 2024 season? I think Melliot has the better accolades, but im still unfamiliar with the stats. This is of course going off the OPY and Walter Payton awards, I’m unsure if Troy won the Buck

Lots of edits needed. I’ll wait for you to do that.

He's clearly a box score fan.

[onceacat]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

Tommy had a higher completion percentage & better TD to INT ratio. Probably a better total QBR but I can't find the numbers on that. PLUS he was a 1000+ yard rusher. And obviously, if you give Tommy a 20% bump for sitting so much of the season, you get more like 3,200 yards of passing & 1200+ yards rushing & more like 56 total CDs.

Dickenson is an all time great, but I think Tommy edges him.

(Of course, the comparison was to Robby Hauck, who is clearly not on the same level as Tommy or Dave)

[tagleason]

Don’t smell smoke. Don’t hear a missile coming through my ceiling. One of the classiest young men you will ever meet. Not to mention an extreme competitor. I doubt he cares. Come on.

[RainierGriz]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

[aucat]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

I don't remember the Cat-Griz game being dirty. At least from my view in the stands. I think there was good sportsmanship from the players after the game as well. The ADs get along, I know that because I have heard them in interviews. Griz fans (and griz friends) can really get under my skin, but I really respect this rivalry and we are lucky to have it. It's one of the very best in the country.

[RainierGriz]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

I don't remember the Cat-Griz game being dirty. At least from my view in the stands. I think there was good sportsmanship from the players after the game as well. The ADs get along, I know that because I have heard them in interviews. Griz fans (and griz friends) can really get under my skin, but I really respect this rivalry and we are lucky to have it. It's one of the very best in the country.

Yep, I can dig it. And a rivals fanbase should get under skin at least a little. Most all interaction I’ve had with cat fans on Twitter, in person, and whatnot; are all just fine. No need for me to lie about it.

[Cataholic]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

I am biased as well. There was the chop block incident that game, but there is a history of questionable tactics by the Gris. Didn’t Cody Balogh end a Weber players career with a chop block? Then you have Connor Strahm making dirty play after dirty play. Robby Hauck jumping on the pile late every game. And how many times have we seen a Gris player twist ankles in a pile? Biased or not, there is an undisputed history with the Gris.

[Billingsgriz]

Tommy is a great kid and a Bobcat Legend--the tipping over the trash can on national TV wasn't smart but it's also not a crime eligible for the death penalty. But he's not Dave or Johnny Montana in terms of national championships because they went 1-0 in NC games.they started--John Edwards didn't start the 2000 game against Georgia Southern, and TM, 0-2 in NC games, 0-3 overall against NDSU.

This year's MSU team most reminds me of our 96 team that went 14-0 in the tegular season, including a 36-14 thrashing of Oregon State. But one of our greatest QB's Brian Ah Yat couldn't get us past Marshall, who had this skinny, tall ( 6-5), very, very fast ( 4.2) kid playing WR and future NFL Hall of Famer named Randy Moss that our 5-9, 5-10 DB's simply could not cover and we got pounded--I saw it in person with my own eyes in Huntington, West Virginia !

Tommy is a great athlete and I hope he gets a shot in the NFL , probably as a KR, PR, and a slot receiver. Or if he wants to play QB and the NFL won't give him a look, go play for Dave in Calgary, shine in the CFL and then move to the NFL like Alex Singleton did.

[RainierGriz]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

I am biased as well. There was the chop block incident that game, but there is a history of questionable tactics by the Gris. Didn’t Cody Balogh end a Weber players career with a chop block? Then you have Connor Strahm making dirty play after dirty play. Robby Hauck jumping on the pile late every game. And how many times have we seen a Gris player twist ankles in a pile? Biased or not, there is an undisputed history with the Gris.

Yep the Cody incident was well documented. It was miscommunication between lineman. Bit who Cody was as a person at all. Pete Kaligis was his coach who is a wonderful person. It wouldn’t have been taught to intentionally hurt someone like that. Connor Stratham was dirty. It was annoying. Robby jumped on piles late on occasion. I think he had a strong desire to always try and be in on the action when he didn’t need to. The kid weighed no more than 170. And I really have not seen ankle twisting. But if you’ve seen it, then not much else I can say.

[ClowderUp]

Connor Statham deserved to be tied up in a crawl space and forgotten about for his crap on the field.

In 22, Robbie got an early unsportsmanlike for twisting Chambers' leg and dropping him about 5 full seconds after the whistle, and that took care of his cheap shots and bullsh!t plays for the rest of the day. That was nice.

[Cataholic]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

How does Tommy’s actions compare to constant late hits, illegal chop blocks, punches on the ground, cheap shots and ankle twists in a pileup. I would say Tommy’s trash can tip is way less harmful that the regular actions of Gris players.

I’m a Griz fan. I’m biased. I’m an occasional fly on the wall here. But I’m getting lost with the narrative that the Griz are the dirtiest sob’s to step on the football field. I’m actually trying to be objective. Are you referring to specific incidences in the recent game between us? We got flagged for a chop block. Some of your players got hurt in the game, some of our did as well. I don’t think there was malintent from either side.

I am biased as well. There was the chop block incident that game, but there is a history of questionable tactics by the Gris. Didn’t Cody Balogh end a Weber players career with a chop block? Then you have Connor Strahm making dirty play after dirty play. Robby Hauck jumping on the pile late every game. And how many times have we seen a Gris player twist ankles in a pile? Biased or not, there is an undisputed history with the Gris.

Yep the Cody incident was well documented. It was miscommunication between lineman. Bit who Cody was as a person at all. Pete Kaligis was his coach who is a wonderful person. It wouldn’t have been taught to intentionally hurt someone like that. Connor Stratham was dirty. It was annoying. Robby jumped on piles late on occasion. I think he had a strong desire to always try and be in on the action when he didn’t need to. The kid weighed no more than 170. And I really have not seen ankle twisting. But if you’ve seen it, then not much else I can say.

Just a quick search pulled up this gem. Even 1890Griz said Robby plays dirty.

https://bobcatnation.com/bobcatbb/viewt ... &start=520

[aucat]

"Just a quick search pulled up this gem. Even 1890Griz said Robby plays dirty."

Well, thankfully Robby is gone now, though I think he is coaching somewhere. So moving on.....

[Helcat72]

I saw it and didn’t think it was a very big deal. You can’t take the Butte out of the boy after all. But I will say, with 100% certainty, if this was Robby Hauck who did this same thing you guys would lose your gosh damn collective minds over it and there would be a 15 page thread on it.

In fairness, Robby Hauck also had a LONG history of cheap & borderline dirty hits in his storied career. He also was inexplicably credited with partial sacks for jumping on the pile well after the play was over...so his stats were pretty laughably overblown.

Mellot just laid down the best ever single year by a Montana born college kid (and I include football greats like Dave Dickenson and Troy Anderson) or Adam Morrison or Todd Foster...and by all accounts he's been a model leader on every level. Who followed that up with the least angry or violent trash can tip in history.

Its a pretty weird comparison.

That is blasphemy. Dave had 5600 passing yards in a single season, 51 passing touchdowns, won the Walter Payton Award, and won the national champion. That is the best season any Montana born player has had. Tommy had a great year, but he’s not Dave Dickinson. Vince Huntsberger had 145 tackles, 3 interceptions, and he received a Heisman vote in 2001. Vince was from Libby. I can see your argument for third-best season, he had a greatseason though.

Tommy had almost 4,000 yards combined and 46 TD. That was also with 2 other backs that ran for over 1,000 yards, AND Tommy sat out about 20% of the overall snaps this season with the game in control. Super Dave is an all time great, there is no denial, but Vince Hunstberger as number 2? He is not even the best defensive player from the state of Montana.

I was going off of individual seasons. Huntsberger 2001 season was one that came to mind. Troy Anderson is another all-time great, but im not too familiar with his stats.

How many times did Dickinson come out of the game in the 3rd period? As I remember he was left it to run up scores almost every game he played at least until the score was in the 50's.