Cancelled Pre Sale and General Sale

[tetoncat]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

[coloradocat]

There are currently 106 tickets available on Seat Geek (only 2 full 8-packs and most are singles or 2-3 packs). Seems like the goal of keeping the tickets out of the hands of griz fans worked.

[Cataholic]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

[cats2506]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

[Cataholic]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

Wow. That is interesting. Would love to hear the final tallies. Has to be a good indication for expansion.

The revised system though would reward someone who attends one game a year (maybe due to distance), but contributes to MSU.

[Catsrgrood]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

I think this is the thing a lot of people are missing. Any way you slice it, there are 50k people that want to go to a stadium that holds 20k. So there are going to be thousands of unhappy or plain pissed off fans.

Season ticket holders account for what, roughly 14k of the seats? We can assume 99% of season ticket holders got their own ticket for this game and didn’t let them go back into the pool of available tickets.

So there was likely somewhere in the range of 6k available seats after season ticket holders got their own.

Say there are 4000 actual accounts that hold those 14k seats. If even 1000 of those accounts requested the max of 8 additional seats(it was likely more than that), that’s an additional 8,000 seats requested.

This process was never going to get past the season ticket holders additional requests. Even if they maxed out the requests to 4 per account, and a quarter the accounts requested those, that’d be somewhere in the range of 4k seats, to pull from a supply of about 6k. So at best a couple thousand may have been able to make it to the Bobcat presale on Tuesday, which would have sold out in 30 seconds. And again, tickets had no chance of making it to the general public sale on Wednesday.

I’m making some assumptions in my numbers obviously, but the general idea is there. The demand FAR outweighed the supply and a lot of people are on the outside looking in.

[WalkOn79]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

I think this is the thing a lot of people are missing. Any way you slice it, there are 50k people that want to go to a stadium that holds 20k. So there are going to be thousands of unhappy or plain pissed off fans.

Season ticket holders account for what, roughly 14k of the seats? We can assume 99% of season ticket holders got their own ticket for this game and didn’t let them go back into the pool of available tickets.

So there was likely somewhere in the range of 6k available seats after season ticket holders got their own.

Say there are 4000 actual accounts that hold those 14k seats. If even 1000 of those accounts requested the max of 8 additional seats(it was likely more than that), that’s an additional 8,000 seats requested.

This process was never going to get past the season ticket holders additional requests. Even if they maxed out the requests to 4 per account, and a quarter the accounts requested those, that’d be somewhere in the range of 4k seats, to pull from a supply of about 6k. So at best a couple thousand may have been able to make it to the Bobcat presale on Tuesday, which would have sold out in 30 seconds. And again, tickets had no chance of making it to the general public sale on Wednesday.

I’m making some assumptions in my numbers obviously, but the general idea is there. The demand FAR outweighed the supply and a lot of people are on the outside looking in.

Wouldn't be anywhere close to that. The stadium holds just shy of 18,000. Take out the student tickets and the Griz allotment of 500 and you MIGHT have 1,000 or 1,500 left over if every season ticket holder renewed for the playoffs.

[Catsrgrood]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

I think this is the thing a lot of people are missing. Any way you slice it, there are 50k people that want to go to a stadium that holds 20k. So there are going to be thousands of unhappy or plain pissed off fans.

Season ticket holders account for what, roughly 14k of the seats? We can assume 99% of season ticket holders got their own ticket for this game and didn’t let them go back into the pool of available tickets.

So there was likely somewhere in the range of 6k available seats after season ticket holders got their own.

Say there are 4000 actual accounts that hold those 14k seats. If even 1000 of those accounts requested the max of 8 additional seats(it was likely more than that), that’s an additional 8,000 seats requested.

This process was never going to get past the season ticket holders additional requests. Even if they maxed out the requests to 4 per account, and a quarter the accounts requested those, that’d be somewhere in the range of 4k seats, to pull from a supply of about 6k. So at best a couple thousand may have been able to make it to the Bobcat presale on Tuesday, which would have sold out in 30 seconds. And again, tickets had no chance of making it to the general public sale on Wednesday.

I’m making some assumptions in my numbers obviously, but the general idea is there. The demand FAR outweighed the supply and a lot of people are on the outside looking in.

Wouldn't be anywhere close to that. The stadium holds just shy of 18,000. Take out the student tickets and the Griz allotment of 500 and you MIGHT have 1,000 or 1,500 left over if every season ticket holder renewed for the playoffs.

That’s all fair, and no I wasn’t accounting for student tickets and griz allotment, so you’re right.
But with SRO tickets, the capacity will still be in the range of 20k.
But the point remains. I’d say somewhere between 2-4k at most would available after season ticket holders renewed their own. A much smaller number than the amount that was requested in additional tickets, I’m sure.

[GeoCAT]

I'm waiting to see how much maroon is in the stadium come Saturday. Then we're gonna have a full reveal of how ethical our fellow season ticket holders were with those extra tickets.

[Joe Bobcat]

Delta Airlines provides seat upgrades to only frequent flyers and not just casual flyers. Hilton provides room upgrades based on the guests member status. Almost every organization has some type of status based on spending. That is just the way the world works. I really don’t see any issue with how MSU handled this.

Are others not able to get a ticket to fly because you upgraded. Or do you get two rooms instead of one. These are poor comparisons.
Lots of comments as if just regular season or occasional game attendees aren't good enough fans. That is sad.

Season ticket holders had first opportunity to reserve tickets back before first game. They should have stuck with that, then had a day where people who had bought single game tickets had a chance, then circle back to priority points for any extra. Many still might have gotten tickets, but the optics would be better.

Why do you feel everyone is ENTITLED to a ticket? Nobody is saying other fans aren’t good enough fans for a ticket, but many people have contributed heavily to have a higher ranking. It simply is not that complicated. And it guaranteed that tickets ended up dedicated Cat fans.

My suggestion would also have assured Cat fans attend in my opinion. You would have had that 2-4000 (not sure after students how many actually available) to go to those who buy tickets to games they can attend. It would have sold out quickly but if not you could have circled back by priority points for the rest. I just think it would have made those who are fans, and maybe boosters or donors, but not season holders feel they had a chance.
I'm like all Cat fans that want it packed with Cats just disappointed in the process.

Actually, you just gave me an idea. Every person that buys a single game ticket directly from MSU should have an account. Each account should receive a priority number status regardless of whether they are a season ticket holder. That priority number would be based on the amount of dollars spent throughout the year, including donations. Then all MSU fans are included in the initial ticket distribution.

Wouldn't have made any difference, I'm a season ticket holder with a lower priority points and didn't get any extra tickets. What I heard is that there were thousands more requests than tickets available.

I think this is the thing a lot of people are missing. Any way you slice it, there are 50k people that want to go to a stadium that holds 20k. So there are going to be thousands of unhappy or plain pissed off fans.

Season ticket holders account for what, roughly 14k of the seats? We can assume 99% of season ticket holders got their own ticket for this game and didn’t let them go back into the pool of available tickets.

So there was likely somewhere in the range of 6k available seats after season ticket holders got their own.

Say there are 4000 actual accounts that hold those 14k seats. If even 1000 of those accounts requested the max of 8 additional seats(it was likely more than that), that’s an additional 8,000 seats requested.

This process was never going to get past the season ticket holders additional requests. Even if they maxed out the requests to 4 per account, and a quarter the accounts requested those, that’d be somewhere in the range of 4k seats, to pull from a supply of about 6k. So at best a couple thousand may have been able to make it to the Bobcat presale on Tuesday, which would have sold out in 30 seconds. And again, tickets had no chance of making it to the general public sale on Wednesday.

I’m making some assumptions in my numbers obviously, but the general idea is there. The demand FAR outweighed the supply and a lot of people are on the outside looking in.

Wouldn't be anywhere close to that. The stadium holds just shy of 18,000. Take out the student tickets and the Griz allotment of 500 and you MIGHT have 1,000 or 1,500 left over if every season ticket holder renewed for the playoffs.

That’s all fair, and no I wasn’t accounting for student tickets and griz allotment, so you’re right.
But with SRO tickets, the capacity will still be in the range of 20k.
But the point remains. I’d say somewhere between 2-4k at most would available after season ticket holders renewed their own. A much smaller number than the amount that was requested in additional tickets, I’m sure.

Absolutely your point remains. I think this discussion needs to be had among the fans and with the powers that be, so that fans can get a better understanding of the thought behind why it's set up the way it is and the powers that be need to get a better understanding of how many fans think it should remain the same, or be changed some, or be changed a bunch. There might be some good ideas out there.

I think there is a large number of fans that are in the mid level of $ contributions to athletics who feel like they will never get a chance to take a bite of the big shiny apple and would like just once to get that chance. I've felt that way some each year putting in for Griz tickets and Frisco tickets every chance there's been for 20 +/- years and getting nothing. So now for this game when I got 8 SRO tickets I was floored wondering how did I sneak in. The only thing I can figure is the amount I put into the KSAC indoor pushed me over the edge. Edge might be the operative word, as I must've been one of the last to get tickets because the seat tickets were all gone to higher point fans leaving only SRO which I was thrilled to get and pass on to others.

That serious talk will have to be another time because we've got yelling and stomping and clapping to do this weekend and Jan 5 2026.

[JDoub]

My sister told me her tix (season tix extras) she was told she has have been REVOKED this morning. wow

her son booked airfare from Dallas to be there

Someone needs to set up a big watch party - tailgate area / track infield / KSAC for those who want to hear the crowd & get loud

Not calling you\her out here but is she sure they were actually revoked, i.e. they charged her card, made the tickets available in here account, allowed to transfer to Wallet, etc. Reason I'm asking is because I know people that were under the impression that when they got the email confirmation or the ticket orders, they thought it was a done deal, whereas is was just a done deal that they were in the priority points queue. If they really did get revoked I would be super ticked off.

Yea I don’t know all the details, BUT

They were able to secure family & friends tix I think from an employee in the AD someone my BIL knows

so all good

what a game