Jhase McMillan

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

[nanacat]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

I appreciate the fact that Jhase seems to have a good set of parents guiding him, and it appears by what you've shared, that he's opened up communication with the MSU coaches regarding his plans and hopes. I also hope that part of his ultimate goal is to get a degree, since in this portal culture the STUDENT part tends to be minimized for the athlete part. Wanting to go to the NFL is a good and lofty goal, but without an education/degree to fall back on, that will actually provide for their future life/family, that's a huge risk as the league is very uncertain and not guaranteed, no matter how good you are. Injuries, front office issues, coaching changes, etc, limit how many actually see success.

Jhase was one of the heroes of the game last night. Hoped he'd stay a Bobcat at least another year, and maybe he will if things don't pan out the way he wants. He's been fun to watch, and he'll always be a 2025 FCS National Champion! Sorry to see him go, but hope for the best for him.

[BornBobcat2000]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

Is Jhase in the portal? I never saw that news

[MTnative]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

I appreciate the fact that Jhase seems to have a good set of parents guiding him, and it appears by what you've shared, that he's opened up communication with the MSU coaches regarding his plans and hopes. I also hope that part of his ultimate goal is to get a degree, since in this portal culture the STUDENT part tends to be minimized for the athlete part. Wanting to go to the NFL is a good and lofty goal, but without an education/degree to fall back on, that will actually provide for their future life/family, that's a huge risk as the league is very uncertain and not guaranteed, no matter how good you are. Injuries, front office issues, coaching changes, etc, limit how many actually see success.

Jhase was one of the heroes of the game last night. Hoped he'd stay a Bobcat at least another year, and maybe he will if things don't pan out the way he wants. He's been fun to watch, and he'll always be a 2025 FCS National Champion! Sorry to see him go, but hope for the best for him.

His parents are educators... his grandmother was an educator... his grandfather was a chemical researcher working on cancer medications.... his parents graduated from Rice University..... trust me they are all about ensuring he gets a degree.... that is first and foremost on their list.

[nanacat]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

I appreciate the fact that Jhase seems to have a good set of parents guiding him, and it appears by what you've shared, that he's opened up communication with the MSU coaches regarding his plans and hopes. I also hope that part of his ultimate goal is to get a degree, since in this portal culture the STUDENT part tends to be minimized for the athlete part. Wanting to go to the NFL is a good and lofty goal, but without an education/degree to fall back on, that will actually provide for their future life/family, that's a huge risk as the league is very uncertain and not guaranteed, no matter how good you are. Injuries, front office issues, coaching changes, etc, limit how many actually see success.

Jhase was one of the heroes of the game last night. Hoped he'd stay a Bobcat at least another year, and maybe he will if things don't pan out the way he wants. He's been fun to watch, and he'll always be a 2025 FCS National Champion! Sorry to see him go, but hope for the best for him.

His parents are educators... his grandmother was an educator... his grandfather was a chemical researcher working on cancer medications.... his parents graduated from Rice University..... trust me they are all about ensuring he gets a degree.... that is first and foremost on their list.

Excellent!!

[TomCat88]

MSU got a great return on its investment into Jhase (Manhattan) McMillan in just one play.

[wbtfg]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

I’ve never met Jhase, but he seemed like a great dude. I was hoping he’d stick around one more year to be spotlighted as our top dog cornerback. Bummed to see him enter the portal, but holding out a slim glimmer of hope he’ll be back.

Best of luck to him, and what an amazing way for him to (possibly) end his short Bobcat career.

And thanks to you for being such a great poster on here.

Cheers!

[coloradocat]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

I’ve never met Jhase, but he seemed like a great dude. I was hoping he’d stick around one more year to be spotlighted as our top dog cornerback. Bummed to see him enter the portal, but holding out a slim glimmer of hope he’ll be back.

Best of luck to him, and what an amazing way for him to (possibly) end his short Bobcat career.

And thanks to you for being such a great poster on here.

Cheers!

I'm hoping all the FBS teams are stupid and won't give him what he's looking for so he comes back to MSU for one more pre-SEC year.

[PapaG]

Bobcat legend after a Nintendo 1994 Madden-esque FG block off the edge. Total Deion Sanders gameplay Baller move.

Thanks for believing in Bozeman and MSU, Jhase, and kick ass in school, football, and your life. Forever a Bobcat.

[ilovethecats]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

[MTnative]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

[BigBruceBaker]

Bummed about Jhase, I was hoping for another year with him. He's a stud and I hope he makes some serious money and finds a great landing spot. Enjoyed watching him play!

@BobcatBuiltTexan hope you stick around. I don't post much anymore but read a lot and enjoy your posts.

[ilovethecats]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

[tetoncat]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

[ilovethecats]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

I never said anything about the program. Though I’d dispute some of that as well. I said a lot of PEOPLE were making a lot of MONEY on the backs of these athletes that weren’t getting a dime. And the ones that were getting money were getting it secretly.

I think the whole deal needs some structure. Not by the ncaa cause they’ve proved they’re terrible. I think changes need to be made. So I’m for some reform for sure. But my mind won’t change in regards to players getting paid and having the opportunity to better their situation. Just like I didn’t feel my father did anything wrong when I was growing up and he moved me into about 7 houses in 2 states taking about 8 different jobs; all that paid better than the last and gave me opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had.

[tetoncat]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

I never said anything about the program. Though I’d dispute some of that as well. I said a lot of PEOPLE were making a lot of MONEY on the backs of these athletes that weren’t getting a dime. And the ones that were getting money were getting it secretly.

I think the whole deal needs some structure. Not by the ncaa cause they’ve proved they’re terrible. I think changes need to be made. So I’m for some reform for sure. But my mind won’t change in regards to players getting paid and having the opportunity to better their situation. Just like I didn’t feel my father did anything wrong when I was growing up and he moved me into about 7 houses in 2 states taking about 8 different jobs; all that paid better than the last and gave me opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had.

A lot of people tied to how many teams? Getting paid like a college age person in a non professional sport, or getting 30,000 a year tuition, strength and conditioning, nutrition, nil.
It is just a fallacy that there is so much money out there other than the top programs. I think we are already seeing buyer fatigue. Boosters paying to get kids that stay 1 year, don't pan out. That money ever runs out things may calm down.
They deserve something but not to make more than pro athletes. I do find it odd coaches complain when many have guaranteed contracts and buyouts. That helped create this mess.
Do you think a top Cat DB or WR should make more than their position coach does.

[ilovethecats]

Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

I never said anything about the program. Though I’d dispute some of that as well. I said a lot of PEOPLE were making a lot of MONEY on the backs of these athletes that weren’t getting a dime. And the ones that were getting money were getting it secretly.

I think the whole deal needs some structure. Not by the ncaa cause they’ve proved they’re terrible. I think changes need to be made. So I’m for some reform for sure. But my mind won’t change in regards to players getting paid and having the opportunity to better their situation. Just like I didn’t feel my father did anything wrong when I was growing up and he moved me into about 7 houses in 2 states taking about 8 different jobs; all that paid better than the last and gave me opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had.

A lot of people tied to how many teams? Getting paid like a college age person in a non professional sport, or getting 30,000 a year tuition, strength and conditioning, nutrition, nil.
It is just a fallacy that there is so much money out there other than the top programs. I think we are already seeing buyer fatigue. Boosters paying to get kids that stay 1 year, don't pan out. That money ever runs out things may calm down.
They deserve something but not to make more than pro athletes. I do find it odd coaches complain when many have guaranteed contracts and buyouts. That helped create this mess.
Do you think a top Cat DB or WR should make more than their position coach does.

I think they are worth whatever amount a school is willing to pay them. If that means they are making more than pros that just furthers my point. It’s very very hard to make the nfl. If you can make that kind of money in college you’d be a moron to turn it down.

Same goes for coaches. If you’re a coach and you have players making more money than you, then go somewhere else for more money if the opportunity is available. Coaches have been doing that since the beginning of time and now players get to.

And if the money eventually dries up, which I don’t see happening, even more reason for these players to get paid while they still can.

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He saved our bacon, and I will always be grateful. Best of luck to him!

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Hope the grass is greener on the other side. So many of these kids chase the money and become a 2nd or 3rd sting player. Best of luck.

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

I never said anything about the program. Though I’d dispute some of that as well. I said a lot of PEOPLE were making a lot of MONEY on the backs of these athletes that weren’t getting a dime. And the ones that were getting money were getting it secretly.

I think the whole deal needs some structure. Not by the ncaa cause they’ve proved they’re terrible. I think changes need to be made. So I’m for some reform for sure. But my mind won’t change in regards to players getting paid and having the opportunity to better their situation. Just like I didn’t feel my father did anything wrong when I was growing up and he moved me into about 7 houses in 2 states taking about 8 different jobs; all that paid better than the last and gave me opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had.

A lot of people tied to how many teams? Getting paid like a college age person in a non professional sport, or getting 30,000 a year tuition, strength and conditioning, nutrition, nil.
It is just a fallacy that there is so much money out there other than the top programs. I think we are already seeing buyer fatigue. Boosters paying to get kids that stay 1 year, don't pan out. That money ever runs out things may calm down.
They deserve something but not to make more than pro athletes. I do find it odd coaches complain when many have guaranteed contracts and buyouts. That helped create this mess.
Do you think a top Cat DB or WR should make more than their position coach does.

I think they are worth whatever amount a school is willing to pay them. If that means they are making more than pros that just furthers my point. It’s very very hard to make the nfl. If you can make that kind of money in college you’d be a moron to turn it down.

Same goes for coaches. If you’re a coach and you have players making more money than you, then go somewhere else for more money if the opportunity is available. Coaches have been doing that since the beginning of time and now players get to.

And if the money eventually dries up, which I don’t see happening, even more reason for these players to get paid while they still can.

Your missing my point. Not saying they shouldn't get some. I do believe system is broke. I do believe money will dry up. When the top FBS go to own system it will change dynamics. Schools are not paying these amounts. Booster are.