Oline coach
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nanacat
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Re: Oline coach
So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
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Re: Oline coach
They clearly weren't prepared for what ISU was doing, Lamson probably runs 99% of the plays from shotgun so it would be awkward for him to go under center if they haven't practiced it.nanacat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pmSo since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
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Re: Oline coach
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.luckyirishguy25 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:58 pmThey clearly weren't prepared for what ISU was doing, Lamson probably runs 99% of the plays from shotgun so it would be awkward for him to go under center if they haven't practiced it.nanacat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pmSo since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
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Re: Oline coach
If you’re not used to it, it’s a fumble waiting to happen.nanacat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pmSo since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
Also, it changes the RB steps, the QB steps, everything. It’s not as easy to just switch to under center as it sounds. Have to practice a lot for that, and I think the only times we’ve done it are in goal line or short yardage situations.
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Re: Oline coach
Theres a reason spread college qb's struggle at first in the NFL being under center.
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Re: Oline coach
Hardly anybody in the NFL runs predominantly under center. Which is a shame. I love the offensive looks you can get from under center.
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Re: Oline coach
Other than early in game Cat crowd didn't cause any penalties. Cats had a lot so would give him a reason to mention it?lutecat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:38 pmIts funny. The people that i talked to that were there said it wasnt that loud. Brock "the closet griz fan" Osweiller was making it out to be they were super loud, bit never giving credit to the Cat crowd. The TV was amplifying the Redbird noise making it sound pretry loud watching it on TV.kcatz wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 11:30 pmI was there ISU was not that loudCalgaryCat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 05, 2026 11:35 pmThis. Announcers were acting like it was all due to ISU noise. These boys played in Missoula, there’s nothing ISU could be doing that would match that.
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Re: Oline coach
It also significantly changes angles. Obviously from under center you can hit inside gaps much faster/ harder, but you end up with slower/ worse angles off tackle. This is especially a factor with RPO game, where you have a little more wiggle room to force defense to commit one way or the other out of shotgun.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:41 pmIf you’re not used to it, it’s a fumble waiting to happen.nanacat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pmSo since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
Also, it changes the RB steps, the QB steps, everything. It’s not as easy to just switch to under center as it sounds. Have to practice a lot for that, and I think the only times we’ve done it are in goal line or short yardage situations.
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Re: Oline coach
The West Coast offenses would like to have a word.BelligerentBobcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:11 pmHardly anybody in the NFL runs predominantly under center. Which is a shame. I love the offensive looks you can get from under center.
4 of the 7 NFC playoff teams are in the gun 53% or less. Arguably the 4 best offensive coaches in the NFL too (Bears, Niners, Rams, and Seahawks).
So that will continue to tilt back as more of this coaching tree develops (and given their success, it will). Play action is just too important.
But asking a college qb to run 50% under center is not going to happen. Possibly ever again.