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Re: Oline coach

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pm

So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by luckyirishguy25 » Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:58 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pm
So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
They clearly weren't prepared for what ISU was doing, Lamson probably runs 99% of the plays from shotgun so it would be awkward for him to go under center if they haven't practiced it.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by nanacat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:32 pm

luckyirishguy25 wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:58 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pm
So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
They clearly weren't prepared for what ISU was doing, Lamson probably runs 99% of the plays from shotgun so it would be awkward for him to go under center if they haven't practiced it.
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:41 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pm
So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
If you’re not used to it, it’s a fumble waiting to happen.

Also, it changes the RB steps, the QB steps, everything. It’s not as easy to just switch to under center as it sounds. Have to practice a lot for that, and I think the only times we’ve done it are in goal line or short yardage situations.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by lutecat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:09 pm

Theres a reason spread college qb's struggle at first in the NFL being under center.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:11 pm

lutecat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:09 pm
Theres a reason spread college qb's struggle at first in the NFL being under center.
Hardly anybody in the NFL runs predominantly under center. Which is a shame. I love the offensive looks you can get from under center.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by tetoncat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 7:46 pm

lutecat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:38 pm
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IL state was 100% simulating the snap count. That wasn't the only thing that crew sucked at, but it was a big one.
This. Announcers were acting like it was all due to ISU noise. These boys played in Missoula, there’s nothing ISU could be doing that would match that.
I was there ISU was not that loud
Its funny. The people that i talked to that were there said it wasnt that loud. Brock "the closet griz fan" Osweiller was making it out to be they were super loud, bit never giving credit to the Cat crowd. The TV was amplifying the Redbird noise making it sound pretry loud watching it on TV.
Other than early in game Cat crowd didn't cause any penalties. Cats had a lot so would give him a reason to mention it?


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Re: Oline coach

Post by 4KornerKat » Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:06 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 2:41 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:51 pm
So since I don't understand things the way some of you do, why did Lamson not go under center more to help avoid the false starts/bad snaps? I'm sure he can see the field better and have more time in the shotgun, so maybe that was why? If ISU was mimicking the snap, there had to be a way to change something to prevent the jumps. Clearly the refs weren't going to call it, sure wish they would have though as if looked like Cats players were trying to appeal to them a few times.
If you’re not used to it, it’s a fumble waiting to happen.

Also, it changes the RB steps, the QB steps, everything. It’s not as easy to just switch to under center as it sounds. Have to practice a lot for that, and I think the only times we’ve done it are in goal line or short yardage situations.
It also significantly changes angles. Obviously from under center you can hit inside gaps much faster/ harder, but you end up with slower/ worse angles off tackle. This is especially a factor with RPO game, where you have a little more wiggle room to force defense to commit one way or the other out of shotgun.



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Re: Oline coach

Post by BlackJack » Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:16 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:11 pm
lutecat wrote:
Wed Jan 07, 2026 3:09 pm
Theres a reason spread college qb's struggle at first in the NFL being under center.
Hardly anybody in the NFL runs predominantly under center. Which is a shame. I love the offensive looks you can get from under center.
The West Coast offenses would like to have a word.

4 of the 7 NFC playoff teams are in the gun 53% or less. Arguably the 4 best offensive coaches in the NFL too (Bears, Niners, Rams, and Seahawks).

So that will continue to tilt back as more of this coaching tree develops (and given their success, it will). Play action is just too important.

But asking a college qb to run 50% under center is not going to happen. Possibly ever again. :)



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