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by PapaG » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
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by TomCat88 » Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
Well, I could’ve swore there was a lot of people saying it was common sense to go out and get a back up for Mellott. And it seems like there’s a lot of common sense talk this year about getting someone to come in a be told he’s going to probably start. Or am I mixing up all these stories?
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by Lord Vigo » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:12 pm
When Chambers transferred in, Mellott had established himself as a piece of the equation at QB with a run to the national championship.
There’s nothing analogous to that on the roster.
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by PapaG » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:43 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
Well, I could’ve swore there was a lot of people saying it was common sense to go out and get a back up for Mellott. And it seems like there’s a lot of common sense talk this year about getting someone to come in a be told he’s going to probably start. Or am I mixing up all these stories?
A new backup would also had wanted to spend a season riding the bench after a transfer. My guess is that the talent pool of decent QBs willing to go to MSU dramatically increased over last offseason. You don’t bring in just anyone who wants to be a Bobcat.
Players want to play, and exactly zero potential QB transfers coming in for the 2024 season had a shot at starting. This year, it’s wide open. Big difference.
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by AFCAT » Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:56 pm
"Obtuse" and now "Analogous."
Where am I? What happened to the poor grammar, bad spelling, and semi-literate BN that I grew to love?

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by TomCat88 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:14 am
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:43 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
Well, I could’ve swore there was a lot of people saying it was common sense to go out and get a back up for Mellott. And it seems like there’s a lot of common sense talk this year about getting someone to come in a be told he’s going to probably start. Or am I mixing up all these stories?
A new backup would also had wanted to spend a season riding the bench after a transfer. My guess is that the talent pool of decent QBs willing to go to MSU dramatically increased over last offseason. You don’t bring in just anyone who wants to be a Bobcat.
Players want to play, and exactly zero potential QB transfers coming in for the 2024 season had a shot at starting. This year, it’s wide open. Big difference.
Yes, but it would’ve made sense (been common sense?) for MSU to bring in a quarterback to backup Mellott for a year and learn the system after the coaches told him that “if he’s the player that they think he is, he’ll rise to the top,” right?
It’d make good sense for a quarterback to do that knowing all the success Vigen has had with QBs. Sacrificing a year with the possibility of getting playing time for an oft injured player would make sense.
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by Cataholic » Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:07 am
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:14 am
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:43 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
Well, I could’ve swore there was a lot of people saying it was common sense to go out and get a back up for Mellott. And it seems like there’s a lot of common sense talk this year about getting someone to come in a be told he’s going to probably start. Or am I mixing up all these stories?
A new backup would also had wanted to spend a season riding the bench after a transfer. My guess is that the talent pool of decent QBs willing to go to MSU dramatically increased over last offseason. You don’t bring in just anyone who wants to be a Bobcat.
Players want to play, and exactly zero potential QB transfers coming in for the 2024 season had a shot at starting. This year, it’s wide open. Big difference.
Yes, but it would’ve made sense (been common sense?) for MSU to bring in a quarterback to backup Mellott for a year and learn the system after the coaches told him that “if he’s the player that they think he is, he’ll rise to the top,” right?
It’d make good sense for a quarterback to do that knowing all the success Vigen has had with QBs. Sacrificing a year with the possibility of getting playing time for an oft injured player would make sense.
That is not going to happen with today’s top prospects. They want a chance to play immediately. Lamson would have never come here if he saw the risk of sitting a full year to learn. However, he wasn’t told by coaches that he will start as Belligerent implied. The “common sense” is that nothing needed to be said to Lamson because the QB position is clearly up for grabs. There is no designated number one guy as of today.
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by BelligerentBobcat » Fri Mar 21, 2025 12:07 pm
Cataholic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 10:07 am
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 7:14 am
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:43 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:56 pm
PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 1:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 20, 2025 7:27 am
People keep mentioning common sense. First, it’s hard to have common sense about the QB situation without knowing the inner workings. Second, the common sense being applied here doesn’t seem to have prompted anything last year: Mellott — based on that common sense — didn’t have a backup and no one was brought even though it was “common sense” in the offseason to bring in someone. Common sense, in retrospect, would have to tell you that the coaches thought Reed was an adequate backup since he was the backup to start the season before Wilson moved ahead of him.
The obvious difference in offseason QB transfers the last two years is that there was zero chance of competing for the starting job going into last season. A transfer could roll the dice on an injury to Mellott, but even then they would assume the starting role with limited reps in fall camp, annd that’s even if they beat out both Reed and Wilson.
This offseason, Lamson has a shot at winning the starting job, which is why I assume he was added to the roster. Chance and Reed both have a big head start on him even with the opportunity.
Well, I could’ve swore there was a lot of people saying it was common sense to go out and get a back up for Mellott. And it seems like there’s a lot of common sense talk this year about getting someone to come in a be told he’s going to probably start. Or am I mixing up all these stories?
A new backup would also had wanted to spend a season riding the bench after a transfer. My guess is that the talent pool of decent QBs willing to go to MSU dramatically increased over last offseason. You don’t bring in just anyone who wants to be a Bobcat.
Players want to play, and exactly zero potential QB transfers coming in for the 2024 season had a shot at starting. This year, it’s wide open. Big difference.
Yes, but it would’ve made sense (been common sense?) for MSU to bring in a quarterback to backup Mellott for a year and learn the system after the coaches told him that “if he’s the player that they think he is, he’ll rise to the top,” right?
It’d make good sense for a quarterback to do that knowing all the success Vigen has had with QBs. Sacrificing a year with the possibility of getting playing time for an oft injured player would make sense.
That is not going to happen with today’s top prospects. They want a chance to play immediately. Lamson would have never come here if he saw the risk of sitting a full year to learn. However, he wasn’t told by coaches that he will start as Belligerent implied. The “common sense” is that nothing needed to be said to Lamson because the QB position is clearly up for grabs. There is no designated number one guy as of today.
That’s not exactly what I said, but if you want to be purposefully misleading, you’re welcome to it.
If you think a transfer QB that wants playing time is going to come in without having that discussion with the coaches because “it’s clearly up for grabs”, you’re just being naive. Nobody is saying that Lamson demanded a starting spot or the coaches guaranteed one, but it’s a foregone conclusion that they talked about his chances of starting, and based on him being here, we can surmise how that conversation went. I know we get a lot of coach speak when the coaches talk to the media, but that’s not how they talk to the players. Anyways, we’ll find out later. I don’t think I have any more to say on the subject.
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by Long Time Cat » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:02 pm
https://406mtsports.com/college/big-sky ... b896d.html
Lamson interview. Not too much detail in the interview but still a fun read. "I'd rather be making $0 and playing lots of snaps than making $1 million and not playing at all." Sounds like he wants to be the guy! Who knew!

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by Catsrgrood » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:05 pm
Well that’s just common sense
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by AFCAT » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:07 pm
He is going to join the team 'sometime during Spring camp." Well, that's interesting and something I didn't know could be done. I figured a player would have to be enrolled in the school. Maybe, he is taking some sort of online courses. Anyway, cool!
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by TomCat88 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:55 pm
Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:05 pm
Well that’s just common sense
Nice!

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by TomCat88 » Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:03 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:07 pm
He is going to join the team 'sometime during Spring camp." Well, that's interesting and something I didn't know could be done. I figured a player would have to be enrolled in the school. Maybe, he is taking some sort of online courses. Anyway, cool!
He's "hoping (not 'going') to join the team sometime during spring camp."
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by AFCAT » Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:03 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:07 pm
He is going to join the team 'sometime during Spring camp." Well, that's interesting and something I didn't know could be done. I figured a player would have to be enrolled in the school. Maybe, he is taking some sort of online courses. Anyway, cool!
He's "hoping (not 'going') to join the team sometime during spring camp."
Wouldn’t that still mean it’s a possibility he could participate in Spring ball? Who knew?
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by wbtfg » Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:10 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:03 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:07 pm
He is going to join the team 'sometime during Spring camp." Well, that's interesting and something I didn't know could be done. I figured a player would have to be enrolled in the school. Maybe, he is taking some sort of online courses. Anyway, cool!
He's "hoping (not 'going') to join the team sometime during spring camp."
Wouldn’t that still mean it’s a possibility he could participate in Spring ball? Who knew?
In the world of online classes, maybe that's a possibility now.
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by catatac » Fri Mar 21, 2025 5:53 pm
wbtfg wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 4:10 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:37 pm
TomCat88 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 2:03 pm
AFCAT wrote: ↑Fri Mar 21, 2025 1:07 pm
He is going to join the team 'sometime during Spring camp." Well, that's interesting and something I didn't know could be done. I figured a player would have to be enrolled in the school. Maybe, he is taking some sort of online courses. Anyway, cool!
He's "hoping (not 'going') to join the team sometime during spring camp."
Wouldn’t that still mean it’s a possibility he could participate in Spring ball? Who knew?
In the world of online classes, maybe that's a possibility now.
I honestly didn't know there were really any rules anymore. I mean you can pay em whatever you want, they can play up to 9 years, I wasn't even sure if they had to be taking classes. lol
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by iaafan » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:30 am
So Lamson will have eight years by the time all is said and done?
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by MSU01 » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:32 am
iaafan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:30 am
So Lamson will have eight years by the time all is said and done?
Six, I think. His first year in college was 2021 at Syracuse.
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by iaafan » Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:58 am
MSU01 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:32 am
iaafan wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 8:30 am
So Lamson will have eight years by the time all is said and done?
Six, I think. His first year in college was 2021 at Syracuse.
Okay, the story says he was a freshman when kassis was a senior in 2016. So I thought he graduated in 2019. But I knew he missed his senior season due to Covid. Kassis probably graduated in 2017.
If his first year here had been right out of high school…2021…one can only imagine.
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by AFCAT » Mon Mar 24, 2025 1:10 pm