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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
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Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by kennethnoisewater » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 am

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.
Yeah that's what I thought. We're bragging about already having a bubble but it doesn't really compare. Still, nice to have when the smoke rolls in and when the snow flies.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Catsrgrood » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:12 am

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:57 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:24 am
NBTXCat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:08 am
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Wow! I am actually shocked at how bad this looks. Im sure the feasibility is just fine and will serve their teams wells. But wow! It looks like a happy meal toy, just junk.
It is bad and they are pretty radio silent on efizz, they are definitely not bragging up this abomination. They thought they were getting Nikes but got Snikes instead or maybe their mindset is more like "it'll do...not the best, but it'll still make a turd".
I agree it looks like a giant pile of turds.

But… their plan is to eventually build an actual building, right? I thought that’s what I had heard I initially. This was a way to basically fast track it to get a functional space as quickly as possible, and then a few years down the road they’d raise the funds to put an actual metal structure over it.

I enjoy sh*tting on the griz as much as anyone, but if they’re going to build something more permanent down the road, then it’ll still turn into being a really nice facility at some point. If that’s not the plan anymore and this is a final version …...well, then…. Woof.
All these bubbles are utilitarian and not supposed to be permanent structures, although they can last for a long time if properly maintained. I'm not sure I've seen a real pretty bubble, but at $10 million (I know, includes the hard structure, field, etc.), I'm guessing the structure will be around for a 5-10 years, at least. If um just spent all that money hoping to come back within a couple of years to build a complete building, then that wasn't very smart. um has real economic issues right now. Unlike MSU, I'm not even sure ums football training facility is even paid off yet. Unless Denny wants to put his name on something else at um, they are a few years out from being able to afford something better than a bubble.
Yea, makes sense. I’m not sure if that’s still the plan, just fairly sure I heard that when this IPF talk first started gaining traction. Get the groundwork and locker room areas done as a permanent fixture, put a bubble around it now, then down the road (could be 10 years, I don’t know), stick a pin in that bubble and build a metal structure, still utilizing everything else that is there now (locker rooms, field, etc).

Bottom line is that it is pretty nice, and much nicer than a lot of FCS programs. But in a few months, ours will just be nicer.



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Re: Indoor facility

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Have the Cats ever practiced in MSU's bubble?


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:56 am

CodyCat wrote:
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Have the Cats ever practiced in MSU's bubble?
The MSU bubble has been open for less than two months and there has been decent weather during that period, so I doubt they have. However, with all the smoke in the valley this week, it may be time to get in there.

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Re: Indoor facility

Post by tetoncat » Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:58 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
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Re: Indoor facility

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Re: Indoor facility

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Re: Indoor facility

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Oh look a giant TURD!!!



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by allcat » Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:50 pm

Come on guys, who cares about them. What this is about is our building.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by ClowderUp » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:30 pm

allcat wrote:
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Come on guys, who cares about them. What this is about is our building.
We are actively competing with them on recruits. The fact they put up an A-1 party rental that even the most fervent supporters on egriz are embarrassed by, is, in fact, important to discuss here and everywhere. This horn needs to be blown loudly.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by allcat » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:33 pm

ClowderUp wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:30 pm
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:50 pm
Come on guys, who cares about them. What this is about is our building.
We are actively competing with them on recruits. The fact they put up an A-1 party rental that even the most fervent supporters on egriz are embarrassed by, is in fact, important to discuss here and everywhere. This horn needs to be blown loudly.
Do you think the recruits can't see what is going on. I agree we need to toot our horn, just don't spend all that time making fun of them.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by ClowderUp » Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:36 pm

allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:33 pm
ClowderUp wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:30 pm
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:50 pm
Come on guys, who cares about them. What this is about is our building.
We are actively competing with them on recruits. The fact they put up an A-1 party rental that even the most fervent supporters on egriz are embarrassed by, is in fact, important to discuss here and everywhere. This horn needs to be blown loudly.
Do you think the recruits can't see what is going on. I agree we need to toot our horn, just don't spend all that time making fun of them.
Yes we do. The condom post was freaking hilarious. I giggled off and on for the next several hours when I saw that.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by BFcatfan » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:09 pm

CodyCat wrote:
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Has UM's bubble finally been inflated yet? It would be quite hilarious if MSU got the roof up on their facility before the grand inflation finally happens.
It would. But, it would be WAY more beneficial if this was useable by December. I don't envision that. But, gosh it would be helpful.
Was told yesterday by those in the know that it be inclosed shortly but not useable or turn key in my world until
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Re: Indoor facility

Post by BFcatfan » Fri Sep 13, 2024 5:38 pm

ClowderUp wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:36 pm
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:33 pm
ClowderUp wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:30 pm
allcat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 7:50 pm
Come on guys, who cares about them. What this is about is our building.
We are actively competing with them on recruits. The fact they put up an A-1 party rental that even the most fervent supporters on egriz are embarrassed by, is in fact, important to discuss here and everywhere. This horn needs to be blown loudly.
Do you think the recruits can't see what is going on. I agree we need to toot our horn, just don't spend all that time making fun of them.
Yes we do. The condom post was freaking hilarious. I giggled off and on for the next several hours when I saw that.
What page is condom post on! Gotta see it :evil:


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by St George » Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:38 pm

kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.
Yeah that's what I thought. We're bragging about already having a bubble but it doesn't really compare. Still, nice to have when the smoke rolls in and when the snow flies.
Bubble, Steel Building, Brick and Mortar probably doesn't affect the inside air quality unless a ton of money is spent on filtration. The amount of minimum outside air to be introduced into the building is dictated by building codes. The bubble may take more air just to keep the bubble inflated.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by RickRund » Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:50 am

St George wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:38 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.
Yeah that's what I thought. We're bragging about already having a bubble but it doesn't really compare. Still, nice to have when the smoke rolls in and when the snow flies.
Bubble, Steel Building, Brick and Mortar probably doesn't affect the inside air quality unless a ton of money is spent on filtration. The amount of minimum outside air to be introduced into the building is dictated by building codes. The bubble may take more air just to keep the bubble inflated.
As far as air, will it be like the kids bounce houses, to have a compressor set up and when it reaches a certain pressure it will level it out. Or does it never lose air?


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by St George » Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:49 am

RickRund wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:50 am
St George wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:38 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.
Yeah that's what I thought. We're bragging about already having a bubble but it doesn't really compare. Still, nice to have when the smoke rolls in and when the snow flies.
Bubble, Steel Building, Brick and Mortar probably doesn't affect the inside air quality unless a ton of money is spent on filtration. The amount of minimum outside air to be introduced into the building is dictated by building codes. The bubble may take more air just to keep the bubble inflated.
As far as air, will it be like the kids bounce houses, to have a compressor set up and when it reaches a certain pressure it will level it out. Or does it never lose air?
I would guess the bubble is multi layered to provide a layer or layers of air to act as insulation. Those layers would be pressurized and would need additional air similar to your car tires that need air on the first colder day of the year. As for the main playing area that would also require positive pressure to keep the bubble from sagging.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Bobcat Sig » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:12 pm

St George wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:49 am
RickRund wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:50 am
St George wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:38 pm
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:10 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:54 am
kennethnoisewater wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:51 am
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:59 am
tetoncat wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:56 am
Would love to see a side by side of MSU bubble and this and interior picture of each. Griz one is bigger but I bet not by much.
Longer, maybe, but not wider. MSU's indoor has a 300 meter track surrounding the field and ums does not.
I think he's talking about the temporary bubble at MSU, saying our current facility isn't much worse than their new one.
If he meant the MSU bubble, then ums is way larger than the MSU one. The temp bubble at MSU is only about 70 yards long.
Yeah that's what I thought. We're bragging about already having a bubble but it doesn't really compare. Still, nice to have when the smoke rolls in and when the snow flies.
Bubble, Steel Building, Brick and Mortar probably doesn't affect the inside air quality unless a ton of money is spent on filtration. The amount of minimum outside air to be introduced into the building is dictated by building codes. The bubble may take more air just to keep the bubble inflated.
As far as air, will it be like the kids bounce houses, to have a compressor set up and when it reaches a certain pressure it will level it out. Or does it never lose air?
I would guess the bubble is multi layered to provide a layer or layers of air to act as insulation. Those layers would be pressurized and would need additional air similar to your car tires that need air on the first colder day of the year. As for the main playing area that would also require positive pressure to keep the bubble from sagging.
So… you’re saying we might have a droopy gut pile on our hands at some point? :mrgreen:


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by PHAT CAT » Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:52 pm

I got a private tour of the Metrodome in Minneapolis. The old home of the Vikings/Twins and Gophers. It's a constant air pressure. It fluctuates with the outside temperature. When you walked out of the Metrodome. It would kind of shoot you out of the door, because of the air pressure inside the place. It's the same for all those inflatable bubbles.



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