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[TomCat88]

To summarize...Monday night:
Rohan--didn't play bad but did have 3 drops.
Scottre--didn't play bad but did he break a single tackle?
Connor--by accounts on here he struggled Monday--admittedly I don't watch the oline play.

By Wednesday afternoon all 3 are in the portal. Not at all saying they didn't try their best Monday or that they didn't want to win that game, but...distractions are distractions.

The problem is the timing of all of this that is allowed. NOBODY should be allowed to enter the portal until all college games are completed. Some sort of effort to limit the tampering while these guys are still playing would be nice.

Agreed. Do the major pro sports have something like this?

Perhaps college sports should just have a trade deadline in season? Can you imagine?!? lol

[RangeCat]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

*like*

[KIX]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

Absolutely true. Was thinking seriously about joining the QBC this next year and upping the Collective as well. Why? To watch key players exit every year? Doesn't make sense.

[RangeCat]

Not sure if it's totally true or not (SO HUGE PINCH OF SALT HERE FOLKS).
Heard from a prominent booster that Rohan and Scottre were already in the Portal during the Championship and Connor Moore had a $500,000-$600,000 offer from a Midwest school (likely OSU). With the news of Tyler Walker and Al Johnson very possibly heading to Temple, it seems like we had a few people playing and coaching in the National Championship with one foot out the door.

[MSU01]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Not trying to be an ass here, but what’s the point of giving more when it’ll never match what the big schools can give? We can’t compete. Why continue to give more if we’ll never be able to match the big guys. I get giving because these guys deserve it but I’m sure most of us cannot keep giving and giving just to see guys continue to walk out the door.

I understand the importance of the work the Collective does, but I have decided to keep the (admittedly fairly small) amount of money I can afford to donate in addition to what I spend on season tickets going to the Bobcat Club. Feels better to me to do something that benefits all student-athletes equally whether they're a star football player or one who works just as hard in a sport that gets way less fan and media attention.

[mslacatfan]

Not sure if it's totally true or not (SO HUGE PINCH OF SALT HERE FOLKS).
Heard from a prominent booster that Rohan and Scottre were already in the Portal during the Championship and Connor Moore had a $500,000-$600,000 offer from a Midwest school (likely OSU). With the news of Tyler Walker and Al Johnson very possibly heading to Temple, it seems like we had a few people playing and coaching in the National Championship with one foot out the door.

Yeah…. I think that has more or less all been confirmed at this point.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

Honestly, I’m getting there.

Let me give you an alternative way to view NIL and the collective. The collective isn't about retaining guys so much as bringing the guys in. See if you don't have the collective you can't GET the guys to do well. Yes you may never compete with the P4 and they will take your great players from time to time, but you aren't in competition with them. Stop comparing yourself to a P4, that ain't you. What you are is a powerhouse blue blood top tier FCS school. That means in order to keep getting the caliber players to stay at the top you NEED that collective to bring them in. You lose that you will lose your competitive edge in order to stay relevant. Just another way to look at it....

[MTnative]

Snell or Pickering would have never done this. Joke.

Bet you didn’t say this when he transferred here.

Great athlete with physical ability. Marginal teammate.

With less than marginal catching ability, as it turns out.

I’ll bet he ends up being another nobody at McNeese state just like that clown from dUMb.

[TomCat88]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

That doesn't happen because when your brother has a chance to do better for themselves even if that means leaving you behind you are happy for them. Family doesn't act like that....

That’s a good point. It’s personal and why I think they should keep it low key. Don’t gloat, don’t apologize, just move on and have someone else make the announcement.

[luckyirishguy25]

This is the one that pisses me off. I understand Scotty and Connor but Rohan’s situation is different. Can’t say I wish him very well.

What's the difference? They're all getting paid to play somewhere meaningful.

Scotty and Connor came to MSU out of high school. Had incredible years and just had too much $ and opportunity to pass up. Rohan isn’t in the same boat.

Rohan is going to get paid too, I see it the same whether they came from high school or another program... it just plain sucks.

[KIX]

Not sure if it's totally true or not (SO HUGE PINCH OF SALT HERE FOLKS).
Heard from a prominent booster that Rohan and Scottre were already in the Portal during the Championship and Connor Moore had a $500,000-$600,000 offer from a Midwest school (likely OSU). With the news of Tyler Walker and Al Johnson very possibly heading to Temple, it seems like we had a few people playing and coaching in the National Championship with one foot out the door.

Figures as much. Wouldn't doubt it one bit. Sucks.

[nanacat]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

I wish the transfers would just not say anything. I wish the coaches would make the announcement and the teammates should be asked by the coaches to not comment on it.

This right here! There should be a press conference once the season ends with announcements of who is leaving and who is transferring in. And this poaching players before the season is over needs to stop. No commitments should be allowed until the season is completely OVER, for coaches or players, IMO. I certainly don't have all the answers, but this is getting ridiculous. The NCAA has to be held accountable and make this work for everyone. Right now it's a train wreck.

[Catsrgrood]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

Absolutely true. Was thinking seriously about joining the QBC this next year and upping the Collective as well. Why? To watch key players exit every year? Doesn't make sense.

It’s hard not to feel the same about this. I absolutely support and like what the collective does, but does it make any meaningful impact on big time players staying?

Or does it make the guys that would stay anyway a little more comfortable while they’re at MSU?

If the goal is to retain top talent, I have to imagine that if the collectives income were to quadruple, that we’d still be left in the dust by a large margin compared to what a lot of FBS programs are offering.

It’s just hard to not feel a little defeated in this new landscape, even as a premier FCS program.

The thought process just a few years ago was that if you’re good enough, the NFL will find you, you didn’t need to necessarily transfer up for that exposure.

Now the thought process is more if you’re good enough, the FBS will find you, and pay you, and you’d be stupid not to take that money.

Not necessarily mad at any single player here, just a very frustrating thing that has rapidly changed recruiting and program building in the last handful of years.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

That doesn't happen because when your brother has a chance to do better for themselves even if that means leaving you behind you are happy for them. Family doesn't act like that....

That’s a good point. It’s personal and why I think they should keep it low key. Don’t gloat, don’t apologize, just move on and have someone else make the announcement.

See that's your feelings getting in the way again, and I get it...you're a diehard cats fan...i really do get it....but these guys haven't gloated, they don't apologize...they thank you who they would like to thank and the announce where they are going....should they not be proud of working their ass off, playing well for a top tier fcs school and being able to make the jump to an fbs school? Why should they not be just as proud for going to their new destination as they were when they chose MSU?

[MTnative]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

That doesn't happen because when your brother has a chance to do better for themselves even if that means leaving you behind you are happy for them. Family doesn't act like that....

That’s a good point. It’s personal and why I think they should keep it low key. Don’t gloat, don’t apologize, just move on and have someone else make the announcement.

See that's your feelings getting in the way again, and I get it...you're a diehard cats fan...i really do get it....but these guys haven't gloated, they don't apologize...they thank you who they would like to thank and the announce where they are going....should they not be proud of working their ass off, playing well for a top tier fcs school and being able to make the jump to an fbs school? Why should they not be just as proud for going to their new destination as they were when they chose MSU?

How can you possibly be proud of making a choice on team/institution when it really isn’t about either of those things!?

[BobcatDel]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

That doesn't happen because when your brother has a chance to do better for themselves even if that means leaving you behind you are happy for them. Family doesn't act like that....

It does act like that if the family needed you and had certain expectations of you and felt you had committed to help them for another year and to help your brother be ready to fill your absence and help the family achieve a major milestone…..and you decide to run off for your own self gratification and leave them worse off with unexpected contributions to fill….yes it does act like that…..maybe you weren’t really part of this family thing all along…… and the real world does create family rifts….

[TomCat88]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

Honestly, I’m getting there.

Let me give you an alternative way to view NIL and the collective. The collective isn't about retaining guys so much as bringing the guys in. See if you don't have the collective you can't GET the guys to do well. Yes you may never compete with the P4 and they will take your great players from time to time, but you aren't in competition with them. Stop comparing yourself to a P4, that ain't you. What you are is a powerhouse blue blood top tier FCS school. That means in order to keep getting the caliber players to stay at the top you NEED that collective to bring them in. You lose that you will lose your competitive edge in order to stay relevant. Just another way to look at it....

It’s also important to stop thinking that the players that leave aren’t replaceable. Many of these guys play as well as they do because they get superior coaching and have superior teammates. Rohan Jones, for example, isn’t as good playing for a .500 FCS team. He may kick ass at MSU, arguably the top program in the FCS, but there’s no guarantee he’ll do the at a middle of the pack FBS program.

Sebastian Valdez is a prime example. He was a top six Big Ten DT at best. Unless the Big Ten is loaded with DTs that isn’t all that great. He still has his Pro Day and Combine to go through but I’d say his move was a wash pro-wise and not much of a plus for UW which had a bad year. He got some money, that’s all. The line the players use about testing at the highest level falls flat, which as I’ve been saying they should just not do.

[TomCat88]

I just wish ONE TIME some one who is not transferring would retweet one of the guys who just became an ex-teammate and instead of saying "go be great" or whatever the hell they say, instead say "I thought this meant something. I thought we were brothers and teammates. Good riddance, don't ever contact me again."

That doesn't happen because when your brother has a chance to do better for themselves even if that means leaving you behind you are happy for them. Family doesn't act like that....

That’s a good point. It’s personal and why I think they should keep it low key. Don’t gloat, don’t apologize, just move on and have someone else make the announcement.

See that's your feelings getting in the way again, and I get it...you're a diehard cats fan...i really do get it....but these guys haven't gloated, they don't apologize...they thank you who they would like to thank and the announce where they are going....should they not be proud of working their ass off, playing well for a top tier fcs school and being able to make the jump to an fbs school? Why should they not be just as proud for going to their new destination as they were when they chose MSU?

Okay. I left out thank. Don’t gloat, don’t apologize, don’t thank. Just move on. Do that stuff in person. Has nothing to do with my feelings which should be abundantly clear as I have no problem with the portal at all. The posts the players make opens the door for criticism. Just rip the bandaid off.

[LoggerCat]

Another thing I don’t get, if some of these guys entered the portal before the end of the season, why did they get to play in the championship game, let alone travel? If they made their choice to leave, why let them stay on the team?

[liqud360]

I was all ready to grab that full sized gold helmet from the bookstore if we had won the game Monday... I should still do it. I am going to keep the status quo when it comes to contributions best I can. We all do what we can, some more than others, but in the end, from my family, its outa love for all MSU is and has done.