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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by AFCAT » Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm

Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10


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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by nanacat » Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:08 am

AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm
Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10
I do wish that players who transferred would share that info with current players, a taste of reality. But if they won't, pride, etc, I do really hope that the coaching staff throws stats like this at them, and also the reality of actually making money versus what the fine print says. The grass is not always greener on the other side.



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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by kwcat » Sat Dec 27, 2025 1:43 am

nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:08 am
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm
Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10
I do wish that players who transferred would share that info with current players, a taste of reality. But if they won't, pride, etc, I do really hope that the coaching staff throws stats like this at them, and also the reality of actually making money versus what the fine print says. The grass is not always greener on the other side.


$ that scottre thought he was going to get from UNC never materialized. Was a bad conversation pre national championship. Similar conversations were a huge distraction pre Frisco.
He followed bad advice IMO.



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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by lutecat » Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:28 am

kwcat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 1:43 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:08 am
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm
Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10
I do wish that players who transferred would share that info with current players, a taste of reality. But if they won't, pride, etc, I do really hope that the coaching staff throws stats like this at them, and also the reality of actually making money versus what the fine print says. The grass is not always greener on the other side.


$ that scottre thought he was going to get from UNC never materialized. Was a bad conversation pre national championship. Similar conversations were a huge distraction pre Frisco.
He followed bad advice IMO.
UNC? He was going to play for Bellichech?



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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by AFCAT » Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:43 am

lutecat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:28 am
kwcat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 1:43 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:08 am
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm
Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10
I do wish that players who transferred would share that info with current players, a taste of reality. But if they won't, pride, etc, I do really hope that the coaching staff throws stats like this at them, and also the reality of actually making money versus what the fine print says. The grass is not always greener on the other side.


$ that scottre thought he was going to get from UNC never materialized. Was a bad conversation pre national championship. Similar conversations were a huge distraction pre Frisco.
He followed bad advice IMO.
UNC? He was going to play for Bellichech?
He got an offer, but it was pulled.


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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by RobertSebastianCat-81 » Sat Dec 27, 2025 9:22 am

It would be interesting to see a chart of the players who left last year with these columns: the NIL $ they were making at MSU vs their new home, the playing time and key stats before and after, the post season exposure before and after, chance for a better diploma before and after, and the chance for a professional career before and after. Also list if their jump went awry on them (didn't get the offer/university they intended).



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Re: Random stuff 2025

Post by kwcat » Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:59 pm

lutecat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 8:28 am
kwcat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 1:43 am
nanacat wrote:
Sat Dec 27, 2025 12:08 am
AFCAT wrote:
Fri Dec 26, 2025 11:20 pm
Just the wins and losses from some of the teams Bobcat players transferred to over the past few seasons. I know, lots of different reasons players transfer and I’m not questioning that, but in the end, winning matters. Not all of those transfers got to experience much winning, at least in a meaningful way. No conference titles, no bowl wins, although UNLV and New Mexico had good years.

UNLV - 10-4 - lost Frisco Bowl
New Mexico - 9-4 - lost Rate Bowl
Cal - 7-6 - lost Hawai’i Bowl
Southern Utah - 7-5
Baylor - 5-7
Idaho - 4-8
Michigan State - 4-8
Arkansas - 2-10
I do wish that players who transferred would share that info with current players, a taste of reality. But if they won't, pride, etc, I do really hope that the coaching staff throws stats like this at them, and also the reality of actually making money versus what the fine print says. The grass is not always greener on the other side.


$ that scottre thought he was going to get from UNC never materialized. Was a bad conversation pre national championship. Similar conversations were a huge distraction pre Frisco.
He followed bad advice IMO.
UNC? He was going to play for Bellichech?
That is where his initial offer as well as Rohan Jones offer was to start with



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