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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:37 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:30 pm
I'm trying to do the math on this. Did we add one more coach than what we lost? Is there still an NCAA limit on the the number of coaches allowed on staff?
Probably a coach leaving that hasn’t been announced yet.



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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by MSU01 » Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:58 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:35 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:31 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:30 pm
I'm trying to do the math on this. Did we add one more coach than what we lost? Is there still an NCAA limit on the the number of coaches allowed on staff?
I don't think so. They lost Walker, Johnson, and Udy and added Sterbick, Smith, and Mesa.
So I guess my question boils down to Monaco. I probably don’t understand the difference between his previous role as Quality Control vs his new role as ST coordinator.
Just a matter of titles, I think. The new rule for the 2024 season and beyond is that FCS teams can have 13 coaches who work with players and have direct access to the team, no matter what the titles of those positions are. All 13 are now allowed to coach on the sidelines during games, whereas previously not all of them were allowed to. This rule change is why Chambers was out there giving signals last year even though he was only in an "Analyst" position. So Monaco moving from Quality Control to ST Coordinator on its own doesn't change anything, he's just still counted as one of the 13.



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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by wbtfg » Mon Feb 03, 2025 4:03 pm

MSU01 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:58 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:35 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:31 pm
wbtfg wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:30 pm
I'm trying to do the math on this. Did we add one more coach than what we lost? Is there still an NCAA limit on the the number of coaches allowed on staff?
I don't think so. They lost Walker, Johnson, and Udy and added Sterbick, Smith, and Mesa.
So I guess my question boils down to Monaco. I probably don’t understand the difference between his previous role as Quality Control vs his new role as ST coordinator.
Just a matter of titles, I think. The new rule for the 2024 season and beyond is that FCS teams can have 13 coaches who work with players and have direct access to the team, no matter what the titles of those positions are. All 13 are now allowed to coach on the sidelines during games, whereas previously not all of them were allowed to. This rule change is why Chambers was out there giving signals last year even though he was only in an "Analyst" position. So Monaco moving from Quality Control to ST Coordinator on its own doesn't change anything, he's just still counted as one of the 13.
Good post....thanks for the explanation.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:46 am

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RobertCats wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:11 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:05 pm
Interesting that Smith was OL coach at Fresno State and is taking the same position at MSU. You don't see lateral moves from FBS to FCS often. Not in my experience at least.
I believe I read that when Entz took over he brought his own O-Line coach with him. He was going to keep Smith on staff but demoted him to a quality control coach.
I figured there must be a logical explanation to it. Thanks!
The more I hear/read about Smith, the more interesting he gets. Walkon, then Walkon of the Year nominee, then on Rimington Award Watch List, Campbell (Academic Heisman) semifinalist twice. He's really battled through a lot of adversity football-wise. He was injured in two of his final three seasons. The only one he completed was the 2020 Covid season. His first stint as OL coach, the team had numerous injuries and had eight different starting lineups. Then he gets bumped out of his position in the coaching change.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by Bozcat003 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm

Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)



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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by VimSince03 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm

Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by VimSince03 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:56 pm

Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)
https://rmucolonials.com/sports/footbal ... -firm/1575

Tapping into Vigen's Wyoming connections:
Prior to joining the coaching staff at Morgan State, Firm spent two years at Wyoming. He began his tenure with the Cowboys as a recruiting graduate assistant during the 2015 season before coaching the offensive line as a graduate assistant coach in 2016.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by coloradocat » Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:57 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by Camo_Cat » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:01 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by VimSince03 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:03 pm

Camo_Cat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:01 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by nanacat » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:24 pm

This is frustrating but fortunately Vigen knows alot of people. Ugh.



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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:25 pm

Yeah, Chuckie Keeton and Justin Mesa. We hardly knew ya!


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:25 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:57 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
Everyone is using MSU as a stepping stone!
Is it a stepping stone if you never made it on campus? :D


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:29 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:56 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)
https://rmucolonials.com/sports/footbal ... -firm/1575

Tapping into Vigen's Wyoming connections:
Prior to joining the coaching staff at Morgan State, Firm spent two years at Wyoming. He began his tenure with the Cowboys as a recruiting graduate assistant during the 2015 season before coaching the offensive line as a graduate assistant coach in 2016.
Uh, okay. "...served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons of the French D3 American Football Championship."

Man, I need a football jersey from the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by tetoncat » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:31 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:25 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:57 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
Everyone is using MSU as a stepping stone!
Is it a stepping stone if you never made it on campus? :D
No then it is a skipping stone.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by nanacat » Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:44 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:31 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:25 pm
coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:57 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
Everyone is using MSU as a stepping stone!
Is it a stepping stone if you never made it on campus? :D
No then it is a skipping stone.
Correct! I mean going to the NFL is a great opportunity for a coach, no doubt. But man can we just keep some coaches?!!

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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by VimSince03 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:39 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:56 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)
https://rmucolonials.com/sports/footbal ... -firm/1575

Tapping into Vigen's Wyoming connections:
Prior to joining the coaching staff at Morgan State, Firm spent two years at Wyoming. He began his tenure with the Cowboys as a recruiting graduate assistant during the 2015 season before coaching the offensive line as a graduate assistant coach in 2016.
Uh, okay. "...served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons of the French D3 American Football Championship."

Man, I need a football jersey from the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons.
Had no idea the French had football let alone a D3 division?!


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by AFCAT » Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:49 pm

VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:39 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:29 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:56 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)
https://rmucolonials.com/sports/footbal ... -firm/1575

Tapping into Vigen's Wyoming connections:
Prior to joining the coaching staff at Morgan State, Firm spent two years at Wyoming. He began his tenure with the Cowboys as a recruiting graduate assistant during the 2015 season before coaching the offensive line as a graduate assistant coach in 2016.
Uh, okay. "...served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons of the French D3 American Football Championship."

Man, I need a football jersey from the Bron-Villeurbanne Falcons.
Had no idea the French had football let alone a D3 division?!
Me neither. Until a few year ago, I only knew about the old WLAF, then I saw former MSU players getting jobs with these obscure European teams. I went to a few Frankfurt Galaxy games back in the early 90s, when John Elway's dad coached there. John even showed up to a game. I had a small world moment at a Frankfurt Galaxy game when I ended up sitting right next to a guy I went to high school with.


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Re: Staff. Who do we bring in?

Post by PapaG » Tue Feb 18, 2025 4:57 pm

coloradocat wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:57 pm
VimSince03 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 1:53 pm
Bozcat003 wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2025 12:34 pm
Justin Mesa ended up taking a job with the Lions (offensive quality control coach) ... look out for Josh Firm (current OC at Robert Morris to take his spot)


What was your favorite Justin Mesa moment everyone?
Everyone is using MSU as a stepping stone!
MSU football has been a career-ending job for much of my early life for many coaches. From Arnold to Hysell and I suppose you could add Ash/Marshall as well.


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