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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by SparkCat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:18 am

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:00 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:49 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:21 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:17 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:12 am
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:49 am
So two "surprises" so far? Any more that were maybes who we still may get today? Not to be greedy lol
I'm pretty certain that's it. You never know though.
Bummer. I’m on ‘team we need to bring in a QB’. Of course this all personal opinion, I’m fine and confident in Chance and think River will surprise us but will need a year to just play football again. So if our starter gets injured I don’t have much faith in a backup.
I'm sure they will evaluate what they have this Spring and bring in a QB if one is needed. This isn't the end of the signing class, just the end of the signing class for today.
Oh I get it. I’m just being unreasonable, between losing the championship, our graduating class, and our transfers, I was just hoping for an absolute game changing incoming transfer to negate some of the above mentioned. I’ll always be a fan and this staff does not owe me anything, just wish they’d show a little more fire right now.
Like Vim wrote. They did look at one QB, maybe two, but he/they didn't work out, so they are still in wait and see mode.
Who were they looking at?



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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by AFCAT » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:29 am

SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:18 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:00 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:49 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:21 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:17 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:12 am
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:49 am
So two "surprises" so far? Any more that were maybes who we still may get today? Not to be greedy lol
I'm pretty certain that's it. You never know though.
Bummer. I’m on ‘team we need to bring in a QB’. Of course this all personal opinion, I’m fine and confident in Chance and think River will surprise us but will need a year to just play football again. So if our starter gets injured I don’t have much faith in a backup.
I'm sure they will evaluate what they have this Spring and bring in a QB if one is needed. This isn't the end of the signing class, just the end of the signing class for today.
Oh I get it. I’m just being unreasonable, between losing the championship, our graduating class, and our transfers, I was just hoping for an absolute game changing incoming transfer to negate some of the above mentioned. I’ll always be a fan and this staff does not owe me anything, just wish they’d show a little more fire right now.
Like Vim wrote. They did look at one QB, maybe two, but he/they didn't work out, so they are still in wait and see mode.
Who were they looking at?
Justin Lamson and RJ Martinez were the two most likely QBs that they were looking at.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by SparkCat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:35 am

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:29 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:18 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 11:00 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:49 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:21 am
SparkCat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:17 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:12 am
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:49 am
So two "surprises" so far? Any more that were maybes who we still may get today? Not to be greedy lol
I'm pretty certain that's it. You never know though.
Bummer. I’m on ‘team we need to bring in a QB’. Of course this all personal opinion, I’m fine and confident in Chance and think River will surprise us but will need a year to just play football again. So if our starter gets injured I don’t have much faith in a backup.
I'm sure they will evaluate what they have this Spring and bring in a QB if one is needed. This isn't the end of the signing class, just the end of the signing class for today.
Oh I get it. I’m just being unreasonable, between losing the championship, our graduating class, and our transfers, I was just hoping for an absolute game changing incoming transfer to negate some of the above mentioned. I’ll always be a fan and this staff does not owe me anything, just wish they’d show a little more fire right now.
Like Vim wrote. They did look at one QB, maybe two, but he/they didn't work out, so they are still in wait and see mode.
Who were they looking at?
Justin Lamson and RJ Martinez were the two most likely QBs that they were looking at.
Sweet! At least I was right with those two. Welp, regardless, we will kick ass next year! I just want some hype, but that will only be fulfilled when the Spring / Fall competition begins.



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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by RickRund » Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:01 pm

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Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:09 am
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Okay, getting closer to the National signing day, regular period. Just two high schoolers, Thomas and Rubich (PWO) on the list right now, but it’s possible the Cats get at least one additional commit, maybe two. I’m hoping for you, Major Thornhill, to come North by Northwest to Bozeman. I’m not sure if I’ll get up early for this one, since it’s only a couple of guys, but BN will get the notices posted.
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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by AFCAT » Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:48 pm

RickRund wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:01 pm
catzz wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:09 am
AFCAT wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:20 pm
Okay, getting closer to the National signing day, regular period. Just two high schoolers, Thomas and Rubich (PWO) on the list right now, but it’s possible the Cats get at least one additional commit, maybe two. I’m hoping for you, Major Thornhill, to come North by Northwest to Bozeman. I’m not sure if I’ll get up early for this one, since it’s only a couple of guys, but BN will get the notices posted.
Got your wish with Major!
Too bad his full name isn't Major Roger Thornhill... Definitely one of my all-time favorite movies.
One of my favorite movies too. :D


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by nanacat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm

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The one thing I took from this interview regarding the portal, was the coaching staff wants the players to talk to them about their plans/ideas, to be transparent, as evidently Jared White was. He stated that some they had many conversations with and some zero, and the ones they had zero, things didn't go so well, or to that effect. Hopefully the players looking into the portal are aware of the difference in who got offers/signings vs who are still floating in the portal. This coaching staff truly wants their players to succeed, at MSU first of course, but even elsewhere, and are willing to help to that end. That's good stuff!



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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:09 pm

nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:24 pm
The one thing I took from this interview regarding the portal, was the coaching staff wants the players to talk to them about their plans/ideas, to be transparent, as evidently Jared White was. He stated that some they had many conversations with and some zero, and the ones they had zero, things didn't go so well, or to that effect. Hopefully the players looking into the portal are aware of the difference in who got offers/signings vs who are still floating in the portal. This coaching staff truly wants their players to succeed, at MSU first of course, but even elsewhere, and are willing to help to that end. That's good stuff!
Yes, it's excellent stuff. Vigen appears to know how to manage players. I've yet to hear of anyone being disgruntled. I'm sure it's happened, but it sounds like Vigen is very up front with everyone and therefore he has that expectation in return.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm

It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.



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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by TomCat88 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:23 pm

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It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Sad on multiple levels if so.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by AFCAT » Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm

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Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by tdub » Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:51 pm

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.
Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by AFCAT » Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:42 pm

tdub wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:51 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.
Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.
Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by Montanabob » Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:20 pm

TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:09 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:24 pm
The one thing I took from this interview regarding the portal, was the coaching staff wants the players to talk to them about their plans/ideas, to be transparent, as evidently Jared White was. He stated that some they had many conversations with and some zero, and the ones they had zero, things didn't go so well, or to that effect. Hopefully the players looking into the portal are aware of the difference in who got offers/signings vs who are still floating in the portal. This coaching staff truly wants their players to succeed, at MSU first of course, but even elsewhere, and are willing to help to that end. That's good stuff!
Yes, it's excellent stuff. Vigen appears to know how to manage players. I've yet to hear of anyone being disgruntled. I'm sure it's happened, but it sounds like Vigen is very up front with everyone and therefore he has that expectation in return.
one comment by V caught my attention an why we continue to win the instate battle. "we continue to emphasize recruiting and developing high school athletes". Huge win over deep pink who brought in 19 transfers.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:51 am

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:42 pm
tdub wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:51 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.
Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.
Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.
This is one big reason why it's sad. Felt like a blind-leading-the-blind situation.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by TomCat88 » Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:57 am

Montanabob wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:09 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:24 pm
The one thing I took from this interview regarding the portal, was the coaching staff wants the players to talk to them about their plans/ideas, to be transparent, as evidently Jared White was. He stated that some they had many conversations with and some zero, and the ones they had zero, things didn't go so well, or to that effect. Hopefully the players looking into the portal are aware of the difference in who got offers/signings vs who are still floating in the portal. This coaching staff truly wants their players to succeed, at MSU first of course, but even elsewhere, and are willing to help to that end. That's good stuff!
Yes, it's excellent stuff. Vigen appears to know how to manage players. I've yet to hear of anyone being disgruntled. I'm sure it's happened, but it sounds like Vigen is very up front with everyone and therefore he has that expectation in return.
one comment by V caught my attention an why we continue to win the instate battle. "we continue to emphasize recruiting and developing high school athletes". Huge win over deep pink who brought in 19 transfers.
Good point and he's obviously downplaying it...a lot. It's one of those things everyone says, but so few are actually good at or have a good process for. Despite being wildly important, it isn't a colorful, flashy topic, so it's rare that a reporter asks a follow up question and even if they do the subject matter is so bland that no one really stops to put much thought into it. People want to hear about the big numbers a player put up in high school, how soon they'll see the field, how fast they are, how strong they are, how many championships they won, star rating, what teams you beat out to get him, etc.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by VimSince03 » Thu Feb 06, 2025 11:32 am

TomCat88 wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2025 9:57 am
Montanabob wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:20 pm
TomCat88 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:09 pm
nanacat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:33 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:24 pm
The one thing I took from this interview regarding the portal, was the coaching staff wants the players to talk to them about their plans/ideas, to be transparent, as evidently Jared White was. He stated that some they had many conversations with and some zero, and the ones they had zero, things didn't go so well, or to that effect. Hopefully the players looking into the portal are aware of the difference in who got offers/signings vs who are still floating in the portal. This coaching staff truly wants their players to succeed, at MSU first of course, but even elsewhere, and are willing to help to that end. That's good stuff!
Yes, it's excellent stuff. Vigen appears to know how to manage players. I've yet to hear of anyone being disgruntled. I'm sure it's happened, but it sounds like Vigen is very up front with everyone and therefore he has that expectation in return.
one comment by V caught my attention an why we continue to win the instate battle. "we continue to emphasize recruiting and developing high school athletes". Huge win over deep pink who brought in 19 transfers.
Good point and he's obviously downplaying it...a lot. It's one of those things everyone says, but so few are actually good at or have a good process for. Despite being wildly important, it isn't a colorful, flashy topic, so it's rare that a reporter asks a follow up question and even if they do the subject matter is so bland that no one really stops to put much thought into it. People want to hear about the big numbers a player put up in high school, how soon they'll see the field, how fast they are, how strong they are, how many championships they won, star rating, what teams you beat out to get him, etc.
And also not to be hyperbolic but we absolutely obliterated UM in-state this year. In years where one side has claimed they beat the other in-state, there are always maybe two or three players that were pretty good on the "losing" side. This year we got every kid that was offered by both sides with the exception of Bridger Smith of Kalispell Glacier (who in my opinion is their best in-state recruit). I don't really give a crap about stars anymore because 247Sports is just an algorithm but they arguably got 8 or 9 of the Top 10 players in the state this year over UM. I really like Smith and Chase Cook the RB out of Red Lodge and who knows...maybe you can get something out of their other two in-state kids but the talent gap in sheer volume and player to player comparison hasn't been this big since the mid-2000s in-state when Bobby was running roughshod over Mike Kramer in-state.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by lutecat » Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:55 am

AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:42 pm
tdub wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:51 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.
Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.
Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.
I wonder about this. Like when players leave here for NM. And I want the best for these guys and I like Eck, but then you go really? NM was the best spot for you to showcase yourself at a higher level.

That's the example. People choose their next step for many reasons.



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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by TomCat88 » Fri Feb 07, 2025 9:29 am

lutecat wrote:
Fri Feb 07, 2025 6:55 am
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:42 pm
tdub wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:51 pm
AFCAT wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:27 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.
Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.
Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.
I wonder about this. Like when players leave here for NM. And I want the best for these guys and I like Eck, but then you go really? NM was the best spot for you to showcase yourself at a higher level.

That's the example. People choose their next step for many reasons.
Humphrey was most likely going to the place that offered him the most money. If that had been Idaho State, then that's where he'd be right now.


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Re: National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

Post by kwcat » Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:11 am

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm
It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.
Conversations about Humphrey were out prior to the South Dakota game. But I don’t think the athletic department or coaching staff was aware.



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