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[coloradocat]

So which QBs do we think will enter the portal? Will Duchien and Chance both stick around for another year and battle it out for QB2 or will one or both go find a field to play on?

Realistically I'd be shocked if we don't lose 2 between now and the end of spring ball.

Exactly my thoughts. If Lamson stays, I think we probably lose Wilson, and maybe even Duchien. If Lamson portals, those two will battle it out in spring and we probably lose one or the other. What does River Warren do? I kind of felt like he came here thinking he was gonna be the future, and maybe he decides he doesn't want to wait it out. Do we keep Grant Vigen at QB, or convert him to TE? He's a big kid; can he catch and block? Plus, we have the Janney kid coming in next season from Oregon. It's a pretty full room already...

If Warren leaves after his true freshman season, that'd be really foolish. Battling for the starting spot as a redshirt sophomore would be a damn good position to be in on one of the 2/3 best programs in the FCS. I'd bet Wilson moves on though.

Wilson really likes it here. I hope we find someplace for him on the field to take advantage of that straight line speed he has regardless of position.
Never want to hope for somebody ahead of you to get banged up, but it is a game where you are more likely than not to get an opportunity to play at some point even just parts of games or parts of seasons

If he can catch maybe he can become a WR? He could be the long ball guy with his speed.

[MSU01]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

[thisnamesucks]

I realize most these guys aren’t going to P4 and/or getting top
Dollar, but even half of the low end would be life changing money. And a lot of kids aren’t coming from wealth so getting crazy money at such a young age is a huge step up

[AFCAT]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

[AFCAT]

I realize most these guys aren’t going to P4 and/or getting top
Dollar, but even half of the low end would be life changing money. And a lot of kids aren’t coming from wealth so getting crazy money at such a young age is a huge step up

I think the only Bobcat getting that kind of money was Moore, maybe Aigbedion.

[thisnamesucks]

I realize most these guys aren’t going to P4 and/or getting top
Dollar, but even half of the low end would be life changing money. And a lot of kids aren’t coming from wealth so getting crazy money at such a young age is a huge step up

I think the only Bobcat getting that kind of money was Moore, maybe Aigbedion.

Oh I’m sure 95% of the guys who leave won’t sniff that, but are we paying 10% of it at the FCS level? Going from $25-$50K up to $200K+ for a guy like Zimmer would be really tough to turn down. Loyalty and legacy isn’t enough to make up that difference for the next 2 years

[gocats77]

Ty Gregorak mentioned in his interview recently that Isiah Ifanse is now back in Bozeman.

[coloradocat]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

Considering Ifanse is back in Bozeman I wonder if his transfer has had an impact on his post-football career. I don't know what he's doing but would he have been better set up now if he finished as a Bobcat and didn't carry the "transferred out his last year" label?

[AFCAT]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

Considering Ifanse is back in Bozeman I wonder if his transfer has had an impact on his post-football career. I don't know what he's doing but would he have been better set up now if he finished as a Bobcat and didn't carry the "transferred out his last year" label?

I'd like to know that too. Is it just a myth or does it really matter if these guys finish up at MSU.

[Camo_Cat]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

Considering Ifanse is back in Bozeman I wonder if his transfer has had an impact on his post-football career. I don't know what he's doing but would he have been better set up now if he finished as a Bobcat and didn't carry the "transferred out his last year" label?

I'd like to know that too. Is it just a myth or does it really matter if these guys finish up at MSU.

Ifanse was a different case. He already had a degree in hand and was stuck in that weird covid cycle where he got an extra year most guys don't get. I didn't really have an issue with his leaving. And he went to Cal and most every game he played that last season was in warm weather. Pretty awesome for a young athlete.

But can you imagine how high he would have set the bar for the all-time rushing record had he stayed?

[coloradocat]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

Considering Ifanse is back in Bozeman I wonder if his transfer has had an impact on his post-football career. I don't know what he's doing but would he have been better set up now if he finished as a Bobcat and didn't carry the "transferred out his last year" label?

I'd like to know that too. Is it just a myth or does it really matter if these guys finish up at MSU.

Ifanse was a different case. He already had a degree in hand and was stuck in that weird covid cycle where he got an extra year most guys don't get. I didn't really have an issue with his leaving. And he went to Cal and most every game he played that last season was in warm weather. Pretty awesome for a young athlete.

But can you imagine how high he would have set the bar for the all-time rushing record had he stayed?

I think a significant majority of fans don't care if a guy has a degree or not when he transfers to play somewhere else. Good for the player but if you still have eligibility we still want you here.

[Bobcat4Ever]

Yall some funny folks in here.... I'll will be around and give the analysis when I can.

Again he isn't my family but I am fond of him and his game. I think he got a raw deal not being put up for frosh AA but it is what it is.

When I saw the tweet I hit his dad up and he said that it really was a hard decision as jhase really likes msu, and the winters aren't too bad for him lolol, but he really wants to be on the biggest stage he can get to. The money isn't an issue for them, both parents are college educated and have good jobs.... his dad also wanted everyone to know, because msu has been so good to his son, that it was truly something that they decided when they got back to Texas today and again it was a tough decision to make. He also said he might come back if his son doesn't like what the other schools have to offer program wise and development wise.

Edit...... he said the out pouring of gratitude is very humbling... makes the decision even harder

Okay, this is cool. You tell Jhase and his dad that his son was great. Very sad to see him leave, but for once no bitterness. Jhase, you come back to play or to watch or for Homecoming — you are always going to be welcome. There’s no better place than The Last Best Place and MSU.

[AFCAT]

back2back = staying?

[Prodigal Cat]

back2back = staying?

You're about 3 pages and few hours late on this one AFCAT.

[Monymony]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Seth Johnson is visiting Penn St soon and Carson Williams is visiting Indiana soon. We recruited and DEVELOPED some studs.

[VIGEN SZN]

Takhari Carr with a post on instagram with hashtag #runitback

[Colter_Nuanez]

I'm not sure that I'll ever understand the motivation of a player, who just won a Natty, to immediately want to transfer away. I get that there's a potential for $$, but holy sh*t, imagine the legacy if you were able to come back and potentially repeat as national champs.

That legacy means more to us as fans than it does to players. Just how it is. Probably how it's always been no matter the level of sports. We want them to stay to carve out their legacy for our benefit and entertainment. The guys want to set themselves up for the most success possible. We can argue whether transferring achieves that but to expect a kid to choose a legacy over other factors at a young age is not reasonable, imo.

I agree that legacy means more to fans sometimes. It's just not a legacy though. I get why players leave, get closer to family, money, dreams of the NFL, etc. However, some of these guys only have a year left and leaving a place where you can make lifelong connections that will help them out with employment, starting a business, whatever, just doesn't always make sense sometimes. I get why they do it though and I don't fault them for it, just not always the best decision.

Legacy does matter in a certain respect though. Dakota Prukop, Isaiah Ifanse, and others that left in their final year or two will be welcomed back, but not in the same way guys who stuck it out for their whole careers.

I know, we also bring in transfers that become Hall of Famers too. Elvis Akpla just did that.

Prukop and Ifanse both graduated from MSU before transferring, which to me is a very important distinction as they did in fact get what they originally came to MSU for. I don't think either of those guys should be thought of as somehow lesser than other players who didn't transfer, they were both great Bobcats who contributed a lot to the success the program has gone on to achieve after they left. Just my two cents!

Oh, I think they will both be in the HOF someday. However, the legacy they could have left would have been much greater had they stayed. Isaiah could have probably put his name at the top of the rushing list for all time had he stayed. Now, his rushing record may be broken just a few years after he left. I think both will be thought of as great Bobcats, but they could have been even greater.

Considering Ifanse is back in Bozeman I wonder if his transfer has had an impact on his post-football career. I don't know what he's doing but would he have been better set up now if he finished as a Bobcat and didn't carry the "transferred out his last year" label?

I'd like to know that too. Is it just a myth or does it really matter if these guys finish up at MSU.

Gregorak talked about Ifanse extensively and specifically in our hit last week:

[MSU01]

Takhari Carr with a post on instagram with hashtag #runitback

Great news, I thought Takhari showed significant improvement as the season went on and he continued to get fairly consistent playing time as part of the rotation at CB.

[CalgaryCat]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Seth Johnson is visiting Penn St soon and Carson Williams is visiting Indiana soon. We recruited and DEVELOPED some studs.

If Williams goes to Indiana, I just don’t see him seeing the field. That team is so stacked.

[Travelingcat]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but Seth Johnson is visiting Penn St soon and Carson Williams is visiting Indiana soon. We recruited and DEVELOPED some studs.

Exactly. And one of many reasons I'm not bitter if some of these young guys want to look elsewhere. They are looking at possibly getting paid significant $ to play for some of the top teams in the FBS Power 4. (Both Penn State and IU are excellent academically as well) Hard to blame guys for taking that type of opportunity.

We need to make sure we are funded as well as we can for NIL, and the NCAA needs to fix the broken system. But we are not losing top starters to mid Group of 5 teams.