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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by tetoncat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:39 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.
I do. Look at the pounding Tommy took at times playing a similar way. Different body types, for sure. And not that LB isn't a physical position. It surely is. Idk, was more of a commentary about us setting offensive football back 50 years during that time than anything.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by CodyCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:04 pm

RKMCMT wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:21 pm
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Falcons fans wanting him gone in the offseason...https://bloggingdirty.com/falcons-have- ... -offseason
"Injury history" is a tricky business. Does 2 seasons make you 'injury prone?'

Maybe. Or maybe just unlucky. Not much sample size. That said, I'd be more than happy though to see Troy stake out a safer natural turf venue for the next phase of his career (cough, Denver, cough :) )
It did for Tommy


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by rfischer94 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:39 pm

CodyCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:04 pm
RKMCMT wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:21 pm
Camo_Cat wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:49 pm
Falcons fans wanting him gone in the offseason...https://bloggingdirty.com/falcons-have- ... -offseason
"Injury history" is a tricky business. Does 2 seasons make you 'injury prone?'

Maybe. Or maybe just unlucky. Not much sample size. That said, I'd be more than happy though to see Troy stake out a safer natural turf venue for the next phase of his career (cough, Denver, cough :) )
It did for Tommy
Tommy was only injury prone when he was running 20+ times per game.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by 84CatGrad » Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:51 pm

All positions carry injury risk. I don't buy that Troy's NFL injuries are somehow due to his positions he played in college. You can pick any position you like and there are examples of players that had long, long careers and players that had very short injury-plagued careers.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by justafan » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:09 pm

I am sure the fact that Troy is 6'4" and weighs 245lbs and runs a 4.4 40 probably had something to do with it.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by tetoncat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:34 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.
I do. Look at the pounding Tommy took at times playing a similar way. Different body types, for sure. And not that LB isn't a physical position. It surely is. Idk, was more of a commentary about us setting offensive football back 50 years during that time than anything.
Tommy's injuries were mostly fluke leg things from awkward tackles than from any pounding. One concussion I remember was when he slid and was hit hard. A lot of shoulder, hand, leg injuries in linebacker group during Mellotts tenure. Injuries happen.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:43 pm

tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:34 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.
I do. Look at the pounding Tommy took at times playing a similar way. Different body types, for sure. And not that LB isn't a physical position. It surely is. Idk, was more of a commentary about us setting offensive football back 50 years during that time than anything.
Tommy's injuries were mostly fluke leg things from awkward tackles than from any pounding. One concussion I remember was when he slid and was hit hard. A lot of shoulder, hand, leg injuries in linebacker group during Mellotts tenure. Injuries happen.
And no "fluke" injuries now that he's not running or getting hit as much. Ok. Got it. That holds water...



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by catatac » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:50 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:43 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:34 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.
I do. Look at the pounding Tommy took at times playing a similar way. Different body types, for sure. And not that LB isn't a physical position. It surely is. Idk, was more of a commentary about us setting offensive football back 50 years during that time than anything.
Tommy's injuries were mostly fluke leg things from awkward tackles than from any pounding. One concussion I remember was when he slid and was hit hard. A lot of shoulder, hand, leg injuries in linebacker group during Mellotts tenure. Injuries happen.
And no "fluke" injuries now that he's not running or getting hit as much. Ok. Got it. That holds water...
I can see both sides here..... definitely odds of getting injured go up if you run the ball 34 times in one game. However, the worst injury of his career was him just stepping weird (during a pass play I believe) vs NDSU.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by tetoncat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:54 pm

GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:43 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:34 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:39 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:19 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:16 pm
tetoncat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:51 pm
GoldstoneCat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Whole thing is a shame. You never know how it would have played out but watching Choate abuse him for 2 years because he didn't know what a QB looked like or how to build a functioning offense was frustrating. Troy may have been a first round pick if he had been on defense all 4 years.
So a torn pec and then a knee injury making a tackle are Choates fault. :roll:
The pounding he took over and over. The shoulder happened on offense IIRC. I liked watching him play offense too but I think it at least hindered his pro career.
And you think being a LB full reps over 4 years would be less of a pounding. Seems like we have injuries at that position every year.
I do. Look at the pounding Tommy took at times playing a similar way. Different body types, for sure. And not that LB isn't a physical position. It surely is. Idk, was more of a commentary about us setting offensive football back 50 years during that time than anything.
Tommy's injuries were mostly fluke leg things from awkward tackles than from any pounding. One concussion I remember was when he slid and was hit hard. A lot of shoulder, hand, leg injuries in linebacker group during Mellotts tenure. Injuries happen.
And no "fluke" injuries now that he's not running or getting hit as much. Ok. Got it. That holds water...


He literally could get hit every play. He is qb. He has chosen to hand off more, slide, and run out of bounds. You can tell Vigen wanted him to and he finally bought in. But name the injury he got because of a pounding he took.


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by liqud360 » Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:52 pm

Isn’t that Troy in the MontanaDOT Engage video?



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by coloradocat » Sat Jan 04, 2025 9:42 pm

liqud360 wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:52 pm
Isn’t that Troy in the MontanaDOT Engage video?

I hope he was paid well. At least he had fun with such a goofy commercial. :lol:


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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by justafan » Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:21 am

I see Atlanta just signed Divine Deablo to a contract. Wonder how that plays out for Troy.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by The Butcher » Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:27 am

justafan wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:21 am
I see Atlanta just signed Divine Deablo to a contract. Wonder how that plays out for Troy.
The short write up makes it sound like there is more concern about Troy's health than ability to make plays. With Troy's injury record you can't help but understand this move.



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Re: Troy Freaking Andersen!

Post by PapaG » Fri Mar 14, 2025 11:54 am

justafan wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:21 am
I see Atlanta just signed Divine Deablo to a contract. Wonder how that plays out for Troy.
As a Raider fan, he’s average at best. He’ll compete with Troy in camp, but a healthy Andersen is the starter. If Troy get injured again in camp, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets an injury settlement and is cut.

This is pretty much the year that Troy needs to stay healthy and perform at an elite level for a decent second contract. The ability is there but his body seems to just not be able to hold up for him. Whatever/Whoever decides or controls these injuries, can we just have our dude stay on the field this year?!


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