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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by 91catAlum » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am

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Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:26 am

91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
Yup. Same with Choate only being one year in at NV. Not a barrier.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by Prodigal Cat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:27 am

91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
Wazzu was asking coaches to take pay cuts. Yes they got some money from the departure of the other PAC schools but the TV money is gone. They are not in the position to pay off an entire contract.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by Camo_Cat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:29 am

Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:27 am
91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
Wazzu was asking coaches to take pay cuts. Yes they got some money from the departure of the other PAC schools but the TV money is gone. They are not in the position to pay off an entire contract.
One of the reasons why I just don't feel like the Wazzu will be a big pay day like some think it would be. Vigen can do better.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by kwcat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:30 am

Wow! Is it game day yet?



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by Prodigal Cat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:34 am

Camo_Cat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:29 am
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:27 am
91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
Wazzu was asking coaches to take pay cuts. Yes they got some money from the departure of the other PAC schools but the TV money is gone. They are not in the position to pay off an entire contract.
One of the reasons why I just don't feel like the Wazzu will be a big pay day like some think it would be. Vigen can do better.
They can't pay P4 money. They CAN pay G5 money. It would still be a massive raise for Vigen and is basically a good G5 job. Vigen should take it if offered.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by BelligerentBobcat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:45 am

91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
They could, but the buyout will be significantly higher than it was at Idaho. Who knows if they'd be willing to pay that.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by MSU01 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:51 am

kwcat wrote:
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Wow! Is it game day yet?
Nope, I expect this thread to hit at least 10 pages in length before Saturday! Not much else to discuss right now given how well the team has been playing all season long.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by 110010110 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:51 am

Maybe WAZZU is really looking for someone who knows how to beat New Mexico since that is apparently a problem for them.



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Post by PapaG » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:53 am

I wouldn’t be surprised or at all upset if he ends up in Pullman.

It’s a better job than Choate took in Reno now that some of the better MWC schools, including Boise State, are reforming the Pac-whatever. Add in UNLV and whoever else and it’s a much better league than the MWC leftovers and includes the Fresno, Denver, and San Diego TV markets.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by GoldstoneCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:55 am

PapaG wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:53 am
I wouldn’t be surprised or at all upset if he ends up in Pullman.

It’s a better job than Choate took in Reno now that some of the better MWC schools, including Boise State, are reforming the Pac-whatever. Add in UNLV and whoever else and it’s a much better league than the MWC leftovers and includes the Fresno, Denver, and San Diego TV markets.
For sure. Could not blame him at all if he took it. Would be well deserved.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by cats2506 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:01 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:45 am
91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
They could, but the buyout will be significantly higher than it was at Idaho. Who knows if they'd be willing to pay that.
UNM is paying him 1.5 Million a year for 5 years, with a 50K increase each year.

The buyout would be pretty big.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by Cledus » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:13 pm

cats2506 wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:01 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:45 am
91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
They could, but the buyout will be significantly higher than it was at Idaho. Who knows if they'd be willing to pay that.
UNM is paying him 1.5 Million a year for 5 years, with a 50K increase each year.

The buyout would be pretty big.
It wouldn't be the full amount of the contract value. The buyout would be the present value of the payments. I came up with $6.7 million to buy out Eck. That's still a lot but significantly less than the $8 million face value of the contract right now.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by cats2506 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:17 pm

Cledus wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:13 pm
cats2506 wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:01 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:45 am
91catAlum wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:25 am
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:06 am
RICO CAT wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am
Some of their fans are pining over the missed opportunity to get Jason Eck and wonder if he’s actually signed a contract with New Mexico yet.
They should be. He would’ve been a great fit there. He probably regrets it too.
If Wazzu wants Eck, they'll buy him out of his UNM contract. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
Didn't it just happen at Weber 2 years ago?
They could, but the buyout will be significantly higher than it was at Idaho. Who knows if they'd be willing to pay that.
UNM is paying him 1.5 Million a year for 5 years, with a 50K increase each year.

The buyout would be pretty big.
It wouldn't be the full amount of the contract value. The buyout would be the present value of the payments. I came up with $6.7 million to buy out Eck. That's still a lot but significantly less than the $8 million face value of the contract right now.
Yeah, I didn't know how buyouts are usually calculated, but I had heard what he is getting.

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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by Cats and Dogs » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:17 pm

Logie turned them down for the basketball job but that was before the P2 expansion. They did end up with a Big Sky guy though so it's possible they go there for football too, but I just don't think so now. Hope not!



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by CalgaryCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:21 pm

Cats and Dogs wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:17 pm
Logie turned them down for the basketball job but that was before the P2 expansion. They did end up with a Big Sky guy though so it's possible they go there for football too, but I just don't think so now. Hope not!
I don’t follow basketball as closely, so I didn’t know they’d offered him a job. I’m surprised he was being recruited. He’s a decent coach but his record isn’t very impressive yet.



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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by seataccat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:26 pm

After being burned so bad by Paul Wulff out of the BSC, I really doubt they will even reach out to Vigan or even Eck. Wulff was an alum with ties to WSU. I think Choate could be a candidate but they will probably go with the successful coordinator from the P4.


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Post by aucat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:53 pm

Wazzou is a terrible job at this point, I can't see Vigen going into such a doomsday situation. If he wants a bigger job one will come along later much better than this one. But one thing is for certain, the impact a coach leaving has on the program is so much greater now than it used to be. Have you paid attention to what has happened at Idaho since Eck announced he was leaving? So many of their players have entered the portal that I'm not sure Idaho would have enough to field a team right now. Quite a challenge ahead for the Vandals.



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Post by wbtfg » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:02 pm

Perfect job for Choate.


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Re: Wazzu just lost their HC

Post by CalgaryCat » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:07 pm

wbtfg wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:02 pm
Perfect job for Choate.
I’d almost guarantee that Choate is interested. Question is if the feeing is mutual



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