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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by SparkCat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm

nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by Monymony » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:33 pm

CodyCat wrote:
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Monymony wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 9:49 pm
If we are heartbroken imagine how the seniors feel. That drop/bad throw on that 3rd down cost us the game.
No. Our defensive line getting blown up all night cost us the game.
True but tommy missing on that pass would’ve given us a chance at going up. He played one hell of a game though



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by tetoncat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:41 pm

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Piss pour D.
D made some plays. NDSU didn't run very well, plus 1 hurt but most if the time Miller checked the play when we went to our wide d line alignment. Worse thing was not enough pressure on 3rd and longs. If we went man to blitz they had an answer. Offense was anemic in first half. Where were some of the pass plays we used in 2nd half.

Convert the 4th down, score then do what we did in 2nd half
they are up most of half up 2 scores. Punt Bison probably don't score. Worst thing happens. Didn't mind decision, didn't like play call.


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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by BelgradeBobcat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:44 pm

Gonna take a while to get over this one. Program is very good and will be really good again next season. But NDSU is the standard and we're not there yet. All the national champs from NAIA on up will be from the mid-west (guessing Ohio State wins FBS). They're just better at it.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by tetoncat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:01 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:44 pm
Gonna take a while to get over this one. Program is very good and will be really good again next season. But NDSU is the standard and we're not there yet. All the national champs from NAIA on up will be from the mid-west (guessing Ohio State wins FBS). They're just better at it.
Cats are there. had about 3 plays that if make result is different.


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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by nanacat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pm

Tommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by MinnesotaBobcat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?
I think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by SparkCat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:20 pm

MinnesotaBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?
I think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.
Makes sense, they rise up, they then begin winning over some of the best FCS recruits and a dynasty is created.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by SparkCat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:21 pm

nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pm
Tommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
The more love and support they get, the better they will become. I know I’ll be donating where I can for the 2025 team.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by Bobcat4Ever » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:36 pm

MinnesotaBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?
I think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.
It might have looked quick on the I-AA level, but remember they had multiple D-II Championships already. Winning wasn’t new.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by Travelingcat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:40 pm

nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pm
Tommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
If you go on X there are *a lot* of folks with no connection to either team being very critical of some of our coaching decisions tonight. I think Vigen is a great coach who seems to have excellent character and I hope we are able to keep him around for years, but he did not have a good day today. I am sure Tommy is not trying to throw him under the bus, but reality is reality, and he is essentially saying this as well. We were the better team, but we did not have the better game plan or in-game decision-making today.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by nanacat » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:45 pm

Travelingcat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:40 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:10 pm
Tommy's comment in the post game that the better team didn't win was spot on. The Cats were the better team all season. This game didn't make sense. Too much hype, believed their own press, moment too big? I don't know, maybe NDSU just had more to prove and more experience to do so. What's Cam had, like 54 starts? But I truly believe the Cats were and are the best. 15-1 is still a phenomenal record. Tommy sweeping every offensive POY award didn't happen cuz the Cats sucked. He had so much help accomplishing that and was the first to say it every time. I truly hope they can hold their heads up once the sting goes away. I also hope the fans who vleed blue and gold will show the love and support moving forward that they have this season.
If you go on X there are *a lot* of folks with no connection to either team being very critical of some of our coaching decisions tonight. I think Vigen is a great coach who seems to have excellent character and I hope we are able to keep him around for years, but he did not have a good day today. I am sure Tommy is not trying to throw him under the bus, but reality is reality, and he is essentially saying this as well. We were the better team, but we did not have the better game plan or in-game decision-making today.
Yes, something was amiss. And I agree that Tommy would never throw coach under the bus but there was something not said in that comment. We'll never know what happened but a huge opportunity was missed and though I do believe the Cats can get back to the Natty, some real soul searching by the coaches needs to happen. This was more on them than the players, imo.



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by KageRage » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:01 am

We almost had an amazing comeback tonight, but we didn’t. We almost had an undefeated season, but we didn’t.

What we did have was 60% ownership of a neutral field, whereas 3 years ago it was maybe 35%. The cats struggled in the first half, but came back and made a game of it. Anyone that stayed to the end, walked down on the field, and actually thanked our players know from the tears in their eyes how important this was to them.

My son is only 2, but I want him surrounded by those players ASAP. They all just experienced the worst moment in their year, and to a man everyone expressed their appreciation to the fans. Heartbreaking? Yes. Heart warming? 100%.

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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by cat22[2010] » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:19 am

This one is gonna hurt for awhile. For now, that is all I have to offer.


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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by bobcatfan123 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:08 am

cat22[2010] wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:19 am
This one is gonna hurt for awhile. For now, that is all I have to offer.
I hear you. This one hurts



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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by AFCAT » Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:22 am

MinnesotaBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:13 pm
SparkCat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?
I think part of the reason they became so dominant so fast is that a lot of the better FCS teams moved up. I’m guessing NDSU would have a few less trophy”s if Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, James Madison and a few others stuck around. In fact, outside the Montana/Dakota (Maybe Idaho) schools, there really aren’t any other teams that invest that much into their football programs. Bottom Line, when NDSU rose there wasn’t an FCS powerhouse standing in their way, and since that time there are few schools that invest as much as they do in their program.
JMU only moved up a few years ago.


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Re: Heartbreaking

Post by killinthegriz4 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:46 pm

SparkCat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:32 pm
nanacat wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:22 pm
MSU01 wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:12 pm
BleedingBLue wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:06 pm
I don't even know if there is a word for what I'm feeling. Detached? I'm not mad, sad, not even disappointed. I'm feeling like as fans we pour our hearts, passion, money into this and it ends like this every God damn year. Obviously we aren't the players, and those guys are most definitely gutted, but we are also invested. There's a good chance the 3 point loss tonight is the closest we ever get to another national title, and that's the worst part.
Just think how it feels to be an Idaho State or Portland State or Northern Colorado fan. I'll take the end of our season over the end of theirs 100% of the time.
Absolutely! There were alot of teams sitting home tonight just wishing they could lose a National Championship game by 3 points to a team who's won 10 now. I just hate the bizon but you can't deny they have a program that is successful, no matter who the HC is. I truly believe that program building is happening at MSU. It didn't happen at NDSU over night, it took time. MSU is on the right track.
In the big picture, NDSU moved up and became great quickly. It actually blows me away, is there much insight on how they became so dominant in a short span of time?
Because Minnesota sucked. NDSU got those FBS recruits, then the winning happened and they just kept getting them.
Great season Cats! I It was such a pleasure to watch.



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