National signing day (regular period) - Starts 5 Feb

[AFCAT]

It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.

Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.

Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.

Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.

I wonder about this. Like when players leave here for NM. And I want the best for these guys and I like Eck, but then you go really? NM was the best spot for you to showcase yourself at a higher level.

That's the example. People choose their next step for many reasons.

Humphrey was most likely going to the place that offered him the most money. If that had been Idaho State, then that's where he'd be right now.

He could have also miscalculated his worth on the open FBS market and after the first bigger offers fell through, he took the best FBS offer that was left. Whether that was for decent money or any money at all, we will probably never know.

[kwcat]

It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.

Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.

Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.

Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.

I wonder about this. Like when players leave here for NM. And I want the best for these guys and I like Eck, but then you go really? NM was the best spot for you to showcase yourself at a higher level.

That's the example. People choose their next step for many reasons.

Humphrey was most likely going to the place that offered him the most money. If that had been Idaho State, then that's where he'd be right now.

He could have also miscalculated his worth on the open FBS market and after the first bigger offers fell through, he took the best FBS offer that was left. Whether that was for decent money or any money at all, we will probably never know.

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[kwcat]

It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.

Seems that's the case, but I don't know of many people that were surprised that Scottre went in the portal. I certainly wasn't.

Agreed that I’m sure they weren’t surprised. But withholding communication when communication is strongly encouraged doesn’t get you any favors. I’m not saying Scottre did anything different than a normal personal would do when leaving a job (and I have ZERO clue to how things actually happened). That’s a very tough conversation to have when you are telling the coaches you might leave. But if you were to pay the coaches that level of respect, I’m sure they’ll be in your corner 100%. Especially if the staff truly is looking out for the best interest of the student-athlete, which it seems like they are.

Absolutely, they could have guided him in making his decision, and that’s not necessarily to stay at MSU. Unfortunately, young people don’t always do what’s right.

I wonder about this. Like when players leave here for NM. And I want the best for these guys and I like Eck, but then you go really? NM was the best spot for you to showcase yourself at a higher level.

That's the example. People choose their next step for many reasons.

Humphrey was most likely going to the place that offered him the most money. If that had been Idaho State, then that's where he'd be right now.

He could have also miscalculated his worth on the open FBS market and after the first bigger offers fell through, he took the best FBS offer that was left. Whether that was for decent money or any money at all, we will probably never know.

Third parties involved in the process, commonly, make promises they can’t keep and family tends to give bad advice off of the situations. I am not being just specific to Humphrey, but a lot of players entering the portal in general. Very easy to do when players egos can get out of whack at a young age. “Being all of that, and a bag of chips“ sometimes gets into young men’s heads. Easy to do when you play in front of a sold out stadium and fans that love you and you perform well.
Once again, this is not specifically aimed at Humphrey players in general. I heard rumblings of his offers as well as Jones and others Well before to the Frisco game.
Like Alex Singleton mentioned that if he were to have received those kinds of offers when he was a sophomore in college, he would’ve been gone. Now that he’s older and more mature, realizes that some of this process has to get cleaned up.
I think open discussions with coaches and maybe industry individuals that have better insight in the future would be helpful.

[nanacat]

Hopefully, as this portal thing continues to play out, players and coaches will be willing to work together on what's best for each. I appreciated Vigen's perspective and imagine he has meetings with the players informing them of the staff's desire for transparency and also help that is available. On the player's side, as guys enter the portal with high expectations and those ends up falling flat, my hope would be transparency by them to former teammates wanting to explore the portal possibilities, a sharing of pros, cons, and reality. I think there could be value in players hearing about the good turn outs, as well as the bad. After all, these kids are in college for the education first, and that comes in many forms.

[BelligerentBobcat]

As MSU fans our best hope is that players see what happened between those who communicated with Vigen and those who didn’t. And that going to a mediocre FBS school isn’t better than MSU.

[nanacat]

As MSU fans our best hope is that players see what happened between those who communicated with Vigen and those who didn’t. And that going to a mediocre FBS school isn’t better than MSU.

Absolutely!

[The Butcher]

It’s possible I’m misreading this, but Vigen’s discussion of White seemed to indicate that Scottre did not tell the coaches he was going to be leaving.

Conversations about Humphrey were out prior to the South Dakota game. But I don’t think the athletic department or coaching staff was aware.

When I was in Frisco, I was talking to some folks in the 'know' who were under the impression that they had Scottre locked up with the NIL monies offered/committed. So, I would agree that there was an intentional lack of communication from Scottre to those within and working with the football staff.

[Reuben Kincaid]

All I know is looking at Ndsu December and February signings, also the assistant coaches they are adding, they are going to be back to what they were for so many years. They have players that want to stay there and win. They have coaches that want to stay there. They have a culture that makes that happen. We have the coach. We have to get the right assistants and right players.
I have no idea. That is what I am seeing. Tell me we will be able to compete. We lucked out that coach entz was a terrible coach and recruiter. Just watch fresco state next couple years, that will be the proof. The coach polasek is the real deal. What he did with the same ertz team was incredible. Their run game was ******, Ndsu standards, but he made it so much better in the first year. Next year their run game will be so close to Ndsu standards. They have the receivers again, if they can have an ok qb, they will dominate. Two or three years they will be more dominant than last 15 years. Look at their signings, old time recruits. Not ertz recruits. Again, look at new coach hires.
Now. Us. We have one of the top coaches. We need assistants that add to the hype of the best team there is. Add the right players. We need the money. Bad thing is that is large part of it. If another team can do it, why can’t we.
One more question. We have top stadium in fcs. Incredible. But it’s not like fbs where your last game is basically end of November. Fcs, you might have another 3-4 weeks of home games. I don’t think that’s a plus when recruiting top athletes. Just asking.

[Cataholic]

All I know is looking at Ndsu December and February signings, also the assistant coaches they are adding, they are going to be back to what they were for so many years. They have players that want to stay there and win. They have coaches that want to stay there. They have a culture that makes that happen. We have the coach. We have to get the right assistants and right players.
I have no idea. That is what I am seeing. Tell me we will be able to compete. We lucked out that coach entz was a terrible coach and recruiter. Just watch fresco state next couple years, that will be the proof. The coach polasek is the real deal. What he did with the same ertz team was incredible. Their run game was ******, Ndsu standards, but he made it so much better in the first year. Next year their run game will be so close to Ndsu standards. They have the receivers again, if they can have an ok qb, they will dominate. Two or three years they will be more dominant than last 15 years. Look at their signings, old time recruits. Not ertz recruits. Again, look at new coach hires.
Now. Us. We have one of the top coaches. We need assistants that add to the hype of the best team there is. Add the right players. We need the money. Bad thing is that is large part of it. If another team can do it, why can’t we.
One more question. We have top stadium in fcs. Incredible. But it’s not like fbs where your last game is basically end of November. Fcs, you might have another 3-4 weeks of home games. I don’t think that’s a plus when recruiting top athletes. Just asking.

You have Bison envy. You should just switch colors.

There is zero question that MSU is one of the top 3 programs in the country. It is not even debatable. The Bison have a couple things going for them that we don’t, specifically in finances. But if you can’t appreciate what we have in Bozeman to the point that you are dissing our program, why don’t you go find another fan base to support. Quite frankly, I think you are a troll and probably not even a Cat fan.

[iaafan]

We lucked out

Yes, you did. Two years in a row. Keep doing what you’re doing.

[AFCAT]

All I know is looking at Ndsu December and February signings, also the assistant coaches they are adding, they are going to be back to what they were for so many years. They have players that want to stay there and win. They have coaches that want to stay there. They have a culture that makes that happen. We have the coach. We have to get the right assistants and right players.
I have no idea. That is what I am seeing. Tell me we will be able to compete. We lucked out that coach entz was a terrible coach and recruiter. Just watch fresco state next couple years, that will be the proof. The coach polasek is the real deal. What he did with the same ertz team was incredible. Their run game was ******, Ndsu standards, but he made it so much better in the first year. Next year their run game will be so close to Ndsu standards. They have the receivers again, if they can have an ok qb, they will dominate. Two or three years they will be more dominant than last 15 years. Look at their signings, old time recruits. Not ertz recruits. Again, look at new coach hires.
Now. Us. We have one of the top coaches. We need assistants that add to the hype of the best team there is. Add the right players. We need the money. Bad thing is that is large part of it. If another team can do it, why can’t we.
One more question. We have top stadium in fcs. Incredible. But it’s not like fbs where your last game is basically end of November. Fcs, you might have another 3-4 weeks of home games. I don’t think that’s a plus when recruiting top athletes. Just asking.

You have Bison envy. You should just switch colors.

There is zero question that MSU is one of the top 3 programs in the country. It is not even debatable. The Bison have a couple things going for them that we don’t, specifically in finances. But if you can’t appreciate what we have in Bozeman to the point that you are dissing our program, why don’t you go find another fan base to support. Quite frankly, I think you are a troll and probably not even a Cat fan.

He is a troll and goes by a couple of other names on here, Otis Campbell being one of them.

[4KornerKat]