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[PapaG]

Scottre could play for Belichick. That’s pretty cool.

It’s cool if you’re into Voldemort being the head coach…..

He’s Harry Potter to Patriots fans, though. Nobody hates losers…

[CodyCat]

Just read on CBS Collrge Football that Moore is the #1 OL available in the portal. Took a visit to Cincinnati today, had Mich State and Ohio State coming up.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

[Lord Vigo]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

[BlueNGoldTilIDie]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

I think it would be cool to see Luke mcendoo come back for just the one year now that Rohan is gone.

[Monymony]

Damn Scotty is bringing in the offers!

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

For the record....I don't hate on any person for doing what's best for them. And nobody knows what's best for you, except....you. I'm also not saying this is what I would say or do if I was a teammate of any player, MSU or otherwise.

I just find it disingenuous sometimes. I talk to probably close to 200 current and former coaches and ex college football players pretty consistently. I don't know one person who's like "Man, I'm so happy for that guy" or who thinks that all these contrived, AI-written posts are classy or cool. It makes the vast majority of them sick and there's a general growing concern for the health of the game, especially below the Power 4 level.

So I guess I'll put it like this: If I was the player transferring, instead of writing a bunch of BS about all the unforgettable memories and how thankful you are, just write "I'm doing what's best for myself, I'm entering the portal." And if you're one of the guys getting left in the dust, if you are really happy for that guy, good for you, post about it, I guess. But if you're not happy about it, don't just post about it because that's what the social norm of young person communication is this day and age.

Like this profile I wrote about Rylan Ortt this year (https://skylinesportsmt.com/iron-ortt-m ... d-bobcats/), Bobby Daly told me this:

“He has the ability to confront and command more from his peers than anyone on the team. He doesn’t give a s—t what they think about him. And that’s tough at that age. I struggled with that when I was a player (an All-American linebacker at MSU in the late 2000s). I was nowhere near the leader that Rylan Ortt is.”

My point of making this post in the first place is that I like to believe there's guys out there who aren't hoping their now ex teammates go and be great. They hope they go learn a tough lesson that winning is hard and you aren't going to find very many spots where you're going to win more and do it for as many people who care about as Montana State....

I get where your coming from but yes teammates do wish the best for the friends when they leave. It's not like they are playing them, they're going fbs. They are of no threat to them. Now if they were a stud for us then transferred to say ndsu that's a bit different. Why would a teammate want their friend to go and fail? Everyone is saying the guy that left isn't family well if my family wanted me to fail or learn a tough lesson I wouldn't call that person family or a friend. But maybe I was just raised differently. If your my friend no matter where you go or what you do I want to see you do well BECAUSE you are my friend/family.

You talk to a lot if people so do i. Most of the current players think like I'm saying. The old guard and the coaches don't like it because it hurts THEM. People say the player is being selfish, well I say the coaches are being selfish. These kids have a chance to go play against the best comp they can so why be mad about that and wish them any ill will? Sorry I just find that very childish. What you're missing is these kids are trying to position themselves to potentially go make millions. It's just a fact that a mediocre fbs player will get a chance over really good fcs players many times. I don't make the rules is just the way it goes. So yeah they're doing all the can to go to the next level, why would anyone have a problem with that?

Now let me be clear I'm not a fan of the transferring. I have seen it not workout way more than I've seen it work out. Especially when it's a back up that isn't playing. I don't know why coaches even go get those guys. What I see is a guy who was in a battle and lost, so is now running to try and win a more winnable battle. So trust when I say I get where your coming from. I also can step back and say hey if they think that's their ticket and feel they can go get it done, I hope they do...I wish them nothing but the best. I just don't feel that God wants us to be spiteful and when you hope for another man to fail you in turn will fail. I raise my boys like that. We don't wish for no person to fail we want everyone to win that we call friends. By uplifting others you in turn are granted prosperity so I don't subscribe to the "i hope they learn are hard lesson by leaving me"... no I hope you achieve your dreams because I'm going to be over here achieving mine.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

Schlepp I see being or main te, rocky and valcin as the H/TE. I'm telling you luvens is one heck of an athlete that imo could be a kelce type game changer. Now he will need to learn the playbook and expand his general knowledge of the offense but with a new OC everyone is going to be learning together. Think rocky/schlepp/valcin can combine to be what we have had until one really settles in and takes over....

[NewEra]

Scottie has an offer from ole miss

[jaquelethargic]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

Schlepp I see being or main te, rocky and valcin as the H/TE. I'm telling you luvens is one heck of an athlete that imo could be a kelce type game changer. Now he will need to learn the playbook and expand his general knowledge of the offense but with a new OC everyone is going to be learning together. Think rocky/schlepp/valcin can combine to be what we have had until one really settles in and takes over....

Agree, Luvens is a great athlete and would excel. Schlepp played great this year and had an impact as a freshman. Rocky/Smith/Woodberry are all young and hungry. Spring ball will be fun to watch and see who wants it more.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

Schlepp I see being or main te, rocky and valcin as the H/TE. I'm telling you luvens is one heck of an athlete that imo could be a kelce type game changer. Now he will need to learn the playbook and expand his general knowledge of the offense but with a new OC everyone is going to be learning together. Think rocky/schlepp/valcin can combine to be what we have had until one really settles in and takes over....

Agree, Luvens is a great athlete and would excel. Schlepp played great this year and had an impact as a freshman. Rocky/Smith/Woodberry are all young and hungry. Spring ball will be fun to watch and see who wants it more.

exactly, this breeds competition. THIS is what you want on your team, a bunch of hungry alpha dogs fighting for positions. This is what breeds winning. I will say that consistency also breeds winning, lol, but now days lining up with close to the same studs each year is very rare now days(unless you are at a big school). For the G5 and the fcs the key going forward is going to be your hs recruiting, and cherry picking a few transfers each year. I have full faith in this staff in their identification of players that are on the team and the players they will bring in. MSU does have a name and a big part of their pitch is "you will get a chance to play for an NC". We have multiple players that had fbs offers that chose to come to bozeman, we have the talent....we'll be ok and spring ball should be a lot of fun because we should have some pretty dope position battles.

[tetoncat]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Why can't keep the top ones anyways.

[tetoncat]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

And G5 donors will reali,e they can't keep the best. At some point is there donor fatigue and they stop giving

[catzz]

****** me. Whole offense will be gutted for next year.

Nah...i disagree....we have recruited well and have talented guys that will step in...only person i see whose talent won't be replaced is tommy...everyone else has an equally talented player that will step in and can give us what the person that is leaving gave us....jmo

We lost 3 all Americans on offense to the portal this week. Doubtful we have 3 more all Americans sitting there waiting to step right into their shoes.
I'm not the pollyanna type - these are big losses.

Outside of moore...I admittedly forgot about him. He's the only one imo that is a huge loss but I feel that with what we have we'll still be really good. I'm going to refrain from really dissecting the other two, as I don't like coming off as bashing players that played really well for a team. All I'll say is we have players currently on the team that, as of now, are returning that can give us what they brought.

Who would you project to fill that H-Back role?

Schlepp I see being or main te, rocky and valcin as the H/TE. I'm telling you luvens is one heck of an athlete that imo could be a kelce type game changer. Now he will need to learn the playbook and expand his general knowledge of the offense but with a new OC everyone is going to be learning together. Think rocky/schlepp/valcin can combine to be what we have had until one really settles in and takes over....

Rocky is going to be ready to roll soon. If not this year, the following! He was practicing with the 2’s once Rohan got hurt and was available/suited most of the playoffs. Not sure if anyone saw him on the sidelines (not dressed) but he was pure fire and energy getting the crowd into it. Maybe not as athletic as Rohan but more heart, desire, determination, and definitely better hands. Kids got it. Watched him a lot from the other side of the stadium during High School ball. Always hated our team going against him in basketball or football. He’s developing fast for college ball and I think will be ready soon.

Also can’t wait to see Valcin and we know Schlepp will be ready. Not worried about TE/H. Just like running backs in this offenses

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Why can't keep the top ones anyways.

The collective isn't about keeping players. It's about rewarding the ones that are here and brining in great players. Some will leave, some will stay that is a fact. Kids at p4 schools that have made millions leave and go to other places, so there really isn't any amount of money that we can say will keep a player. Again it is about supporting the current players and that are playing and representing the montana st community with pride.....I was put on to this by one of the posters here and I really liked their take on the collective.

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Hah! ….and it will never be enough. I give and give and give and buy and buy and buy their stuff, but it never is enough. Heck, I don’t even want to add up how much I spent on Bobcat football tickets, NIL, infrastructure donations, food for the team donations, QBC, travel for the team after the season donations, team gear purchases, etc., this past year. Not to mention personal costs for hotels, travel, food, etc. I spent around $5K for Frisco alone.

Okay, enough whining and venting. Oh well, okay, where do I send the check? Go Cats!

Yep, I actually fear that it could potentially start going the other way. Donors may soon come to realize that we will never be able to compete with P4 schools in terms of NIL money, or even G5 schools for that matter. We can give and give, but with all of that and we still can't keep guys here, people may start getting donor fatigue.

And G5 donors will reali,e they can't keep the best. At some point is there donor fatigue and they stop giving

so your alternative is to not have a collective or one that doesn't pay much so you can't get really good players? I don't think that is the route you want to go. Again it isn't about KEEPING players...it's about enticing players to come and rewarding the ones that ARE here. If they leave that's ok, we reload with a new crop of top tier players to step in and keep the machine going. Ya'll have a great thing going...i really do believe that.

[tetoncat]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Why can't keep the top ones anyways.

The collective isn't about keeping players. It's about rewarding the ones that are here and brining in great players. Some will leave, some will stay that is a fact. Kids at p4 schools that have made millions leave and go to other places, so there really isn't any amount of money that we can say will keep a player. Again it is about supporting the current players and that are playing and representing the montana st community with pride.....I was put on to this by one of the posters here and I really liked their take on the collective.

Your point about the p4 players already getti.g paid and still transferring is the problem with NIL and transfer rules.. people who support it said they should go get theirs. They already have and it isn't enough. Why are those players moving in.

[nanacat]

I feel bad for not knowing this, but did Walchli actually play? Maybe 2s and 3s?

[BobcatBuiltTexan]

Hope everyone increases their monthly donation to the collective.

Why can't keep the top ones anyways.

The collective isn't about keeping players. It's about rewarding the ones that are here and brining in great players. Some will leave, some will stay that is a fact. Kids at p4 schools that have made millions leave and go to other places, so there really isn't any amount of money that we can say will keep a player. Again it is about supporting the current players and that are playing and representing the montana st community with pride.....I was put on to this by one of the posters here and I really liked their take on the collective.

Your point about the p4 players already getti.g paid and still transferring is the problem with NIL and transfer rules.. people who support it said they should go get theirs. They already have and it isn't enough. Why are those players moving in.

Various reason....it isn't all about money...I keep saying that. As fans it is the easiest thing for us to go to because we don't understand the whole dynamics of playing at a school. When you are recruited you see the best of everyone and everything....you get there and sometimes that stuff changes, BIG TIME. Now am I saying that is what happens at MSU? no, I am not. I can say that the few kids that I have talked to that are at MSU are happy there and it is as it was advertised to them. Other schools not so much. Quinn Ewers graduated early(a farce at best) to get a 1mil pay dat at osu, he was behind stroud and wasn't going to play, so he left to UT. Got another pay day and the word is being floated that he is either going pro or he is transferring because it was made very clear to him that manning is the guy next year. I'm just telling you that it isn't about chasing money for every kid. Is money involved and does that factor in? yes it does but it isn't the root of it all. It's about opportunity to showcase your talent in the best situation possible so you view the landscape find what you think is best then you factor in who wants you most based off what they will give you...you know kinda of like a job...because you know playing college football is JUST like a job.

[VimSince03]

I feel bad for not knowing this, but did Walchli actually play? Maybe 2s and 3s?

Played some special teams but not all units.