Bobcat Portal News

[tetoncat]

Best of luck to Chance, who I think has a lot of ability and will thrive in the right spot.

However, I think the biggest news here is that it strongly indicates to me that Lamson is very likely staying (which I actually thinks makes sense for him and his future even if a FBS team shows him the money.) If Lamson were leaving, the QB competition would be wide-open and it would be hard to imagine Wilson transferring. So this indicates to me that he has pretty good reason to think Lamson is sticking around.

In one of on field interviews after the game Lamson said he was going to California for a week to be home then back to Bozeman. Said workouts start. Sure sounded like he was coming back.

[BelligerentBobcat]

Not positive, but I think Daniel Jeremiah said that Hunter Provience is transferring out.

[1890Griz]

This is why it’s so important to recruit Montana kids. Both schools have had a lot of out of state talent leave after a year or two. Recruiting harder in state is one of the reasons why the cats have had the edge as of late

[VimSince03]

Not positive, but I think Daniel Jeremiah said that Hunter Provience is transferring out.

We are loaded at TE so if we lose Hunter, assuming it's because he wants more in the passing game. Rocky and Rylan are here to stay and players like Valcin, Smith, Curnow (who started on kickoff in the Natty fyi), and more of the younger guys are ready to compete.

[GoldstoneCat]

Not positive, but I think Daniel Jeremiah said that Hunter Provience is transferring out.

We are loaded at TE so if we lose Hunter, assuming it's because he wants more in the passing game. Rocky and Rylan are here to stay and players like Valcin, Smith, Curnow (who started on kickoff in the Natty fyi), and more of the younger guys are ready to compete.

Rocky with his wr background in high school can be that move/matchup guy and often was this year. If valcin sticks around for next season that dude is intriguing. Size/speed we don't get that often here, and maybe another guy you could argue MSU is never able to get to come here in the first place if the portal didn't exist.

[GavinDonos]

So a lot of players who enter the portal due to pride never end up getting offers. They lose their scholarships and careers.

The other guys get sweet nothings whispered into their ears from schools that amount to be… well, nothing. We saw that with Infanse and Glesner and the Texas Tech OL guy that is a memory. A few of them hit the jackpot, like Diego Pavia, but those cases are rare.

These kids are entering the portal at their own risk. We need to get used to the fact that we are a minor league development program when it comes to out of state (Texas) kids now. In my opinion if these guys want to be treated like pros, there should be a contract involved with the schools. That would mean collective bargaining, which nobody on the landscape has the balls or power to do. NIL and the transfer portal has totally f’d up college sports. Portal kids will never have a true Alma Mater or a group of teammates that they can claim and lean on as lifelong brothers. It sucks.

[GavinDonos]

Oh, and there are currently over 4,000 kids in the portal. Good luck, fellas.

[GavinDonos]

That being said, I do love all the gents who transfer to MSU. Perhaps that makes me a hypocrite. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

(Three posts in a row! I feel like my old 2004 self!)

[gtapp]

So a lot of players who enter the portal due to pride never end up getting offers. They lose their scholarships and careers.

The other guys get sweet nothings whispered into their ears from schools that amount to be… well, nothing. We saw that with Infanse and Glesner and the Texas Tech OL guy that is a memory. A few of them hit the jackpot, like Diego Pavia, but those cases are rare.

These kids are entering the portal at their own risk. We need to get used to the fact that we are a minor league development program when it comes to out of state (Texas) kids now. In my opinion if these guys want to be treated like pros, there should be a contract involved with the schools. That would mean collective bargaining, which nobody on the landscape has the balls or power to do. NIL and the transfer portal has totally f’d up college sports. Portal kids will never have a true Alma Mater or a group of teammates that they can claim and lean on as lifelong brothers. It sucks.

Glesner left for academic reasons. He would have left regardless of money or playing time.

[gtapp]

So far the only two I care about losing are McMillan and Jefferson. Williams is good but wanted out bad enough to post a week and a half before the NC game and Johnson had the worst game Monday I have seen a CB have at MSU. Good player but replaceable.

[GoldstoneCat]

So a lot of players who enter the portal due to pride never end up getting offers. They lose their scholarships and careers.

The other guys get sweet nothings whispered into their ears from schools that amount to be… well, nothing. We saw that with Infanse and Glesner and the Texas Tech OL guy that is a memory. A few of them hit the jackpot, like Diego Pavia, but those cases are rare.

These kids are entering the portal at their own risk. We need to get used to the fact that we are a minor league development program when it comes to out of state (Texas) kids now. In my opinion if these guys want to be treated like pros, there should be a contract involved with the schools. That would mean collective bargaining, which nobody on the landscape has the balls or power to do. NIL and the transfer portal has totally f’d up college sports. Portal kids will never have a true Alma Mater or a group of teammates that they can claim and lean on as lifelong brothers. It sucks.

I get what you're saying and no doubt there is some loss of that camaraderie. You hear Vigen stressing a lot about "this team," essentially trying to create that band of brothers every year. I'm sure it's not perfect but don't you imagine Justin Lamson having forged some lifelong bonds on this team? Your point about the kids is a valid one and I agree it should be collectively bargained and likely won't ever be. I think three complaints about the decline of the sport are overblown, but the benefits to the players (money) are certainly at least somewhat offset by the risks (shady agents, no degree, never getting recruited out of the portal).

[GavinDonos]

So a lot of players who enter the portal due to pride never end up getting offers. They lose their scholarships and careers.

The other guys get sweet nothings whispered into their ears from schools that amount to be… well, nothing. We saw that with Infanse and Glesner and the Texas Tech OL guy that is a memory. A few of them hit the jackpot, like Diego Pavia, but those cases are rare.

These kids are entering the portal at their own risk. We need to get used to the fact that we are a minor league development program when it comes to out of state (Texas) kids now. In my opinion if these guys want to be treated like pros, there should be a contract involved with the schools. That would mean collective bargaining, which nobody on the landscape has the balls or power to do. NIL and the transfer portal has totally f’d up college sports. Portal kids will never have a true Alma Mater or a group of teammates that they can claim and lean on as lifelong brothers. It sucks.

Glesner left for academic reasons. He would have left regardless of money or playing time.

Well I’m not going to get into kids’ “academic reasons”. UCLA is a fine school and I’m glad he got a handful of kickoffs and a field goal in the Rose Bowl.

And I also don’t argue with Tapp Tapp the Chisled!

[lutecat]

So far the only two I care about losing are McMillan and Jefferson. Williams is good but wanted out bad enough to post a week and a half before the NC game and Johnson had the worst game Monday I have seen a CB have at MSU. Good player but replaceable.

Disagree. Johnson also scooped up the blocked field goal. That was a good wr he was up against and yeah the guy got a couple plays on him. But how many did Seth have that we just didnt hear about because he was in good coverage. Thats the thing about CB's. They get attention for plays people make against them or passes defended. But if your coverage is good and the ball isnt thrown your way, you dont get attention for it.

I'll miss all the guys leaving ans I don't have any hard feelings on any. People have their reasons, just like any of us leaving a job. And I say this as a person thats worked for the same company and only that company ever, outside of jobs that were seasonal.

[GavinDonos]

I get what you're saying and no doubt there is some loss of that camaraderie. You hear Vigen stressing a lot about "this team," essentially trying to create that band of brothers every year. I'm sure it's not perfect but don't you imagine Justin Lamson having forged some lifelong bonds on this team? Your point about the kids is a valid one and I agree it should be collectively bargained and likely won't ever be. I think three complaints about the decline of the sport are overblown, but the benefits to the players (money) are certainly at least somewhat offset by the risks (shady agents, no degree, never getting recruited out of the portal).

Okay, let me agree on all fronts. This thread and my posts were getting long winded. And editing things on this board gets a bit frustrating on a phone browser.

Lamson, Davis, among others is what I meant when I referenced Diego. They came in, contributed, showed their emotions on their sleeves. They’re the outliers, and I consider them Bobcats to the bone. And they also sacrificed P4 careers for us podunks. That’s different. That will stick with BN forever. It’s the guys who think they’re going to greener pastures that don’t fruit, or get pushed into the portal by their coaches that I was getting at. They get screwed by the system. Gone and forgotten by everywhere they roam.

[allcat]

So far the only two I care about losing are McMillan and Jefferson. Williams is good but wanted out bad enough to post a week and a half before the NC game and Johnson had the worst game Monday I have seen a CB have at MSU. Good player but replaceable.

Disagree. Johnson also scooped up the blocked field goal. That was a good wr he was up against and yeah the guy got a couple plays on him. But how many did Seth have that we just didnt hear about because he was in good coverage. Thats the thing about CB's. They get attention for plays people make against them or passes defended. But if your coverage is good and the ball isnt thrown your way, you dont get attention for it.

I'll miss all the guys leaving ans I don't have any hard feelings on any. People have their reasons, just like any of us leaving a job. And I say this as a person thats worked for the same company and only that company ever, outside of jobs that were seasonal.

Joey Thomas would also get beat. He payed so close he got a lot of pi calls, that really weren't. I thought one of Seth's calls was clean, but close.

[GoldstoneCat]

I get what you're saying and no doubt there is some loss of that camaraderie. You hear Vigen stressing a lot about "this team," essentially trying to create that band of brothers every year. I'm sure it's not perfect but don't you imagine Justin Lamson having forged some lifelong bonds on this team? Your point about the kids is a valid one and I agree it should be collectively bargained and likely won't ever be. I think three complaints about the decline of the sport are overblown, but the benefits to the players (money) are certainly at least somewhat offset by the risks (shady agents, no degree, never getting recruited out of the portal).

Okay, let me agree on all fronts. This thread and my posts were getting long winded. And editing things on this board gets a bit frustrating on a phone browser.

Lamson, Davis, among others is what I meant when I referenced Diego. They came in, contributed, showed their emotions on their sleeves. They’re the outliers, and I consider them Bobcats to the bone. And they also sacrificed P4 careers for us podunks. That’s different. That will stick with BN forever. It’s the guys who think they’re going to greener pastures that don’t fruit, or get pushed into the portal by their coaches that I was getting at. They get screwed by the system. Gone and forgotten by everywhere they roam.

Agreed.

[MrGoodKat]

So Far...

Would-Be Returning Starters:

-Carson Williams, CB
-Seth Johnson, CB
-Cedric Jefferson, OT

Would-Be Returning 2-Deep:

-Jhase McMillan, CB
-Hunter Provience, TE

Others:

-Jacob Trimble, WR
-Javonte King, WR
-Chance Wilson, QB
-Major Thornhill, DE

[RyeCat]

So far the only two I care about losing are McMillan and Jefferson. Williams is good but wanted out bad enough to post a week and a half before the NC game and Johnson had the worst game Monday I have seen a CB have at MSU. Good player but replaceable.

Disagree. Johnson also scooped up the blocked field goal. That was a good wr he was up against and yeah the guy got a couple plays on him. But how many did Seth have that we just didnt hear about because he was in good coverage. Thats the thing about CB's. They get attention for plays people make against them or passes defended. But if your coverage is good and the ball isnt thrown your way, you dont get attention for it.

I'll miss all the guys leaving ans I don't have any hard feelings on any. People have their reasons, just like any of us leaving a job. And I say this as a person thats worked for the same company and only that company ever, outside of jobs that were seasonal.

Joey Thomas would also get beat. He payed so close he got a lot of pi calls, that really weren't. I thought one of Seth's calls was clean, but close.

Say what you will about our corners during the game, I watched several of ISU’s games and Rittenhouse didn’t take nearly as many deep shots as it seemed had been typical. A lot of their game plan was similar to the gris games with quick outs and screen passes early on before the defense was gassed. The coverage was good and they were concerned about Rittenhouse throwing interceptions which kept it to short yardage.

[Bzncarolinacat]

Powdrell to WVU

[MrGoodKat]

Say what you will about our corners during the game, I watched several of ISU’s games and Rittenhouse didn’t take nearly as many deep shots as it seemed had been typical. A lot of their game plan was similar to the gris games with quick outs and screen passes early on before the defense was gassed. The coverage was good and they were concerned about Rittenhouse throwing interceptions which kept it to short yardage.

The corners we're losing are very good for sure.

But the primary reason why the Cats didn't allow hardly anything down the field in the passing game against ISU or hardly anyone else this season is scheme, not personnel. That's not to say that personnel had nothing to do with it, of course. But they played out of a 2-high shell that forced opposing passing games to throw underneath or into disadvantageous numbers down the field.

They were able to do that effectively because they could handle opposing running games without bringing an extra safety into the box.