Big Sky Conference Presidents Cup

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon May 09, 2005 1:46 pm

mslacat wrote:
Eastcoastgriz wrote:
mslacat wrote:Before the Griz get too cocky about there current Position in this year presidents Cup remember this, while the award has only been around for three years this is the first time the Griz have even been in the running for the award. On the other hand MSU has finished in the top three EVERY SINGLE YEAR. In the past years Montana has fallen in that catagory " The score is too low to be published" by the Big Sky I mean anyone can have a lucky year! If we come in behind the Griz this year, thats OK. I know we will be in the running next year and the next and the next and the next. And we are doing it with out the smoke and mirrors of an intersession. When a Bobcat basketball players gets a 3.0, I know it is because he EARNED IT!

Send your hate mail NOW.
While I’ll concede the intersession allows some athletes to qualify who would not other wise, intersession has insignificant effect on overall GPA.

So if you have a 3.0 and attended an intersession class or two, does this mean you didn’t earn it??
Good point! I thought of that after I posted it. Lets put it another way. When a MSU basketball player walks on to the court I know he belongs there because he earned the right in the class room!

So if you have taken an intersession class, you don't belong on the court becouse you haven't earned it??

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon May 09, 2005 1:49 pm

Well at MSU, if you had bad enough grades to have to take an intersession, you would be done playing basketball, because we don't have intersession.

You don't make the grade, there is no magical winter class to fix it for you.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:02 pm

Everyone deserves a second chance, I believe that as much as the next guy. But why does one school have intersession and others do not? I was glad to see Kamarr Davis back on the court last year and I hope that the intersession helps make him a more productive person. If that's the case every school should have intersession for all athletes and non-athletes to take advantage of.

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:04 pm

You have to admit that the intersession is fishy at best. Really how can a person suddenly become eligible within a short period of time?

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:08 pm

I'll make it simple: Think summer session in the winter. In the summer you have 2 sessions and in the winter you have time for only 1. You know about summer session? All the cat Football players use summer session so they can play in the fall.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:09 pm

Summer "classes" are a part of almost every college. Intersession is not.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:16 pm

mquast53000 wrote:You have to admit that the intersession is fishy at best. Really how can a person suddenly become eligible within a short period of time?

I am not an expert on the winter intersession, but it is my understanding the classes are structured the same as summer classes and if that is the case, there should be no negative connotation to the winter intersession.

For what ever reason, msu chooses not to have a winter intersession. I think its good for the student and good for the University.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:21 pm

It's a simple fact of the need/want for intersession. It costs money to pay professors, keep buildings heated, etc, to run winter classes. If they have enough need in UM and interest to have sessions in the winter, go ahead. Most MSU students don't need to fix their grades real quick and would rather spend their break in the confines of their home with their families, but to each his own.

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:21 pm

If it's ok for every school in the Ivy league it must be ok for U of M.

mquast53000 · Post by **mquast53000** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:21 pm

CelticCat wrote:Summer "classes" are a part of almost every college. Intersession is not.

My feelings exactly.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:26 pm

CelticCat wrote:Summer "classes" are a part of almost every college. Intersession is not.

What percent of US college's offer winter intersession classes?

CARDIAC_CATS · Post by **CARDIAC_CATS** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:46 pm

Eastcoastgriz wrote:
CelticCat wrote:Summer "classes" are a part of almost every college. Intersession is not.
What percent of US college's offer winter intersession classes?

Just a guess, but I bet in order to be an accredited engineering program at MSU (or even some of the others) that they cannot have winter intersession classes. I'm not positive on this, but I have a hunch it has to do with that.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:56 pm

You can tell it's the offseason.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:58 pm

I've always been confused by this debate. Do the intersession classes require the same amount of classroom time as a regular class (similar to summer or night programs, where there are fewer sessions, but just as much classroom time and just as much out of class work required), or are these classes truly cheap and easy credits?

If they are essentially the same as summer classes, and do require as much work to pass the classes, then I don't understand the controversy. Or does eligibility go on the most recent session (even if it is one class) instead of a cumulative GPA over a minimum number of credits?

info197176 · Post by **info197176** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:03 pm

Intersession is just like Summer session..same amount of classroom time as a regular class. (compressed into a shorter time period, classwork is also the same..again compressed over a shorter period of time.)

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:14 pm

I just typed in about 25 university names (some with engineering) with the words 'winter' and 'intersession' and every one of them had it. Looks like MSU just needs to get with the times.

jagur1 · Post by **jagur1** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:17 pm

But to be fair MIT and Texas A & M (about the only two engineering schools I know) don't have winter inter session. MIT is on quarters so they couldn't do it if they wanted they only have a 18 day winter break.

Bleedinbluengold · Post by **Bleedinbluengold** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:26 pm

If intersession is just like summer session, it would really make sense to do most of your work during an intersession. I recall summer school being unbelievably EASY! The TA's teaching those classes wanted to go fishin' and golfin' as much as we did.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:31 pm

Actually MIT and Tex. A/M are two that I entered and both HAVE wintersession.

Eastcoastgriz · Post by **Eastcoastgriz** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:35 pm

Bleedinbluengold wrote:If intersession is just like summer session, it would really make sense to do most of your work during an intersession. I recall summer school being unbelievably EASY! The TA's teaching those classes wanted to go fishin' and golfin' as much as we did.

Must just be in bozo, one of the hardest classes I took was during summer session, taught by a professor, I work my a-- off just to get a B.