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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Common Cat » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:37 pm

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Saw on Twitter this morning that UM is close to raising $7.2 million for an indoor facility....appears to be a "bubble" concept. This will be an advantage for recruiting.
Yep, I just saw this same thing. Not what I wanted to see.
Let me guess, they will name it "Denny's Dome."
The rendering is ugly. Looks like a grab to get it done.
Agreed. This definitely gives them an upper hand in the short term, but hopefully MSU can raise the money to get a permanent facility built and take that upper hand back. And hopefully soon-ish.
I'll add this- UM has prided themselves on facilities, and this just feels incongruent to what they've been able to accomplish facilities wise in Missoula.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by ND0479 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm

BelligerentBobcat wrote:
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It really doesn’t help recruiting as much as you think. It obviously helps a little, but nobody is picking UM or MSU because they have an indoor practice facility. Lot of other things that come into play before that.
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Re: Indoor facility

Post by catatac » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:59 pm

ND0479 wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:39 pm
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:26 pm
It really doesn’t help recruiting as much as you think. It obviously helps a little, but nobody is picking UM or MSU because they have an indoor practice facility. Lot of other things that come into play before that.
You right.
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Re: Indoor facility

Post by ibleedblue » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm

More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by bobcatozzy » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:22 pm

Bubble were horrible in the past. The one that was the tennis Bubble always had problems. Wonder if things have changed?


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Catsrgrood » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm

ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by BLACKnBLUEnGOLD » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:56 pm

bobcatozzy wrote:
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Bubble were horrible in the past. The one that was the tennis Bubble always had problems. Wonder if things have changed?
I would guess that the technology has improved somewhat. If they sell for 7 million dollars, the people who make them can afford good R&D.
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It really doesn’t help recruiting as much as you think. It obviously helps a little, but nobody is picking UM or MSU because they have an indoor practice facility. Lot of other things that come into play before that.
It might make a difference for someone who is...on the bubble.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by AFCAT » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:07 pm

BLACKnBLUEnGOLD wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:56 pm
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Bubble were horrible in the past. The one that was the tennis Bubble always had problems. Wonder if things have changed?
I would guess that the technology has improved somewhat. If they sell for 7 million dollars, the people who make them can afford good R&D.
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:26 pm
It really doesn’t help recruiting as much as you think. It obviously helps a little, but nobody is picking UM or MSU because they have an indoor practice facility. Lot of other things that come into play before that.
It might make a difference for someone who is...on the bubble.
I’m betting that seven mil includes the track and playing surface. I hope so, anyway.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Montanabob » Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:14 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
They plan on selling it to little brother in 3 years when they have the $30 mil for the true ipf project and 1 day after they join the MWC.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by wbtfg » Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:41 am

Bobby’s bubble boys.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by GetEm_Griz » Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am

Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by TomCat88 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 9:57 am

GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
That’s a good idea. The bubble itself probably isn’t all that expensive. Build the permanent building once the season is over and have it ready by fall.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by GoldstoneCat » Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:09 am

GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
I agree with TomCat, i like the plan. Get the bubble up quickly, which gives you something usable, while fundraising for the permanent facility. Really don't see much downside to what your athletic department is doing here.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Catsrgrood » Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am

GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
Makes sense. Sounds like a good plan.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Long Time Cat » Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:51 am

Catsrgrood wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am
GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
Makes sense. Sounds like a good plan.
Wait a second... Did you just use "sounds like a good plan" in reference to the gris? :shock:
What is this world coming to. :?


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Catsrgrood » Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm

Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:51 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am
GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
Makes sense. Sounds like a good plan.
Wait a second... Did you just use "sounds like a good plan" in reference to the gris? :shock:
What is this world coming to. :?
It felt dirty. I had to think about it to make sure I was thinking about it correctly.
But yes, it does indeed sound like a good plan.

The overall optics of it isn’t good, but that’s a different story. I realize it’s out of a totally different pocket than the university’s operating funds. But the optics of a struggling university building something for its football team while it cuts staff and has struggled with enrollment for over a decade isn’t good, regardless if the IPF is privately funded or not.



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by CodyCat » Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:45 pm

Catsrgrood wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:07 pm
Long Time Cat wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 11:51 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:58 am
GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
Makes sense. Sounds like a good plan.
Wait a second... Did you just use "sounds like a good plan" in reference to the gris? :shock:
What is this world coming to. :?
It felt dirty. I had to think about it to make sure I was thinking about it correctly.
But yes, it does indeed sound like a good plan.

The overall optics of it isn’t good, but that’s a different story. I realize it’s out of a totally different pocket than the university’s operating funds. But the optics of a struggling university building something for its football team while it cuts staff and has struggled with enrollment for over a decade isn’t good, regardless if the IPF is privately funded or not.
This was the same narrative for the champions center which is still, the narrative.


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Re: Indoor facility

Post by tjbison » Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:14 pm

GetEm_Griz wrote:
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:49 am
Catsrgrood wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:24 pm
ibleedblue wrote:
Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:03 pm
More than recruiting, it helps with preparation and being able to practice and be effective in freezing cold weather or late playoff runs. That is where it will help them most. Hope we follow sooner than later.
This.
To me the recruiting aspect of an IPF is minimal.
It’s the obvious benefits that are the biggest. Having a place to go for spring practices and late season playoff runs is huge.

We need one, and I really hope we’re not too far off to having one done right.

I’m not putting UM’s down because it looks pretty solid for being a bubble and it’s more than we have right now, but if we do what we plan in the coming few years, it won’t be in the same conversation.
From what I understand, the bubble is temporary and just phase 1 of a permanent IPF. The surface will be permanent, and eventually the bubble will be replaced and a permanent facility will be built.
Its the route NDSU went, Bubble over the old DII outdoor field, now the new $50 Million IPF is being built, great to have something inside for Golf, Track, Soccer, Baseball, Ect and Football. The benefits of "just a bubble" can sell donors on donating more for the full building!



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Re: Indoor facility

Post by Hawks86 » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:24 pm

I wish we had a bubble.
Game changer is way overused.
Their indoor track team is going to be good at running in a straight line.


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