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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
I don’t have any idea who this kid is either. For people that are upset about the kids that up and leave in the portal, just remember that one door closes and another one opens. You never know who is going to be brought in to fill the hole that was just created.
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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
Fair shake? Sorry, but you have to earn a spot, it isn’t just given to you. Clearly he wasn’t as good as the others on the field.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 pmCan’t say I blame him, just never love seeing someone switch sides.
But it sounds like he grew up a griz fan, committed to the previous coach that’s no longer here, and didn’t get a fair shake at real playing time here. Sounds like a pretty good recipe to leave and go to the other side.
Hope he does well 10 games per year.
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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
But are you sure that last years DC had clear vision?GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 pmFair shake? Sorry, but you have to earn a spot, it isn’t just given to you. Clearly he wasn’t as good as the others on the field.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 pmCan’t say I blame him, just never love seeing someone switch sides.
But it sounds like he grew up a griz fan, committed to the previous coach that’s no longer here, and didn’t get a fair shake at real playing time here. Sounds like a pretty good recipe to leave and go to the other side.
Hope he does well 10 games per year.
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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
Maybe he’s mad that last year’s DC is gone.Joe Bobcat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:45 pmBut are you sure that last years DC had clear vision?GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 pmFair shake? Sorry, but you have to earn a spot, it isn’t just given to you. Clearly he wasn’t as good as the others on the field.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 pmCan’t say I blame him, just never love seeing someone switch sides.
But it sounds like he grew up a griz fan, committed to the previous coach that’s no longer here, and didn’t get a fair shake at real playing time here. Sounds like a pretty good recipe to leave and go to the other side.
Hope he does well 10 games per year.
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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
Thanks for the insights Vim. Interesting to hear that. And honestly not very much talked about in a program. It's the best way to get guys experience and see what they can do. Throw then into the fire and face live bullets. Disappointed to hear that. I hope Daly is more adept at getting guys on the field for depth.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:30 pmDidn't work out here in the Nickel or Safety positions. Kade had some injuries his first few years but was ready to contribute this fall and, in my opinion, unfairly never got an opportunity. Ortt/Polidore were our two best safeties to start the year and Dowler/Price locked down the nickel spot. Unquestionably those two spots had the best players starting. However, the depth was shaky. At nickel, we lost both Dowler and Price during the year and instead of moving in another strong safety type like Kade or Aidan Parks (who shined in spring ball in my opinion), we moved Miles Jackson from corner into nickel with mixed results. At safety, Blake Stillwell was the clear #3 per the coaching staff with Bailey/Pottenger jockying for the 4th spot. Next two up were probably Brock Steel and Kade.
Vigen lets his staff decide who is above the line and below the line in terms of "kids who are ready to see the field" each year and that's how the depth gets established. For whatever reason on the defensive side of the ball, I saw the "above the line" players get smaller and smaller the past two years specifically in the secondary and at LB. I completely trust the coaches to play who they feel they can trust. That should be exactly what you want coaches to do as fans. However, I kept hearing more and more this year from spring ball forward that Garza has "his guys" and if you can't break through into that group, it will be hard to see the field. Aidan Parks is a perfect example in my book and a hard-nosed kid like Kade is another. You have to at least give those kids opportunities to prove themselves when they are 3rd or 4th year guys and injuries start to hit. When Miles Jackson was called up at nickel for Sac State instead of Parks, I said to myself (man Aidan is never going to see the field on defense is he).
On the field would it have changed things this year? No not really. I'm a big believer in the best players need to play and if you don't beat out the competition, you are just going to have to improve or see the game from the sideline. I just don't feel like guys like Kade Cutler or Aidan Parks were really given a fair shake to at least get ONE opportunity to play varsity minutes. You need to give kids opportunities to show they can be trusted in a game setting when they've put the time in to your program AND the on-field result is lacking with the players playing in front of them. Our secondary and LB depth took a hit this year because we had a lot of sophomores and juniors sitting on the roster with no game experience. In some cases, freshman played in front of them. Daly & Co. need to figure out how to get our quality depth rotation back in order or else we're going to struggle again in 2024 as injuries always happen each year. That's all.
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Re: Kade Cutler in portal
I can't decide which road to take. I could just wish him luck and move along, or I could try and figure out the one person to blame for his leaving and rage about it for awhile.
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I just hope the jests that a few of our guys posted under his Twitter announcement are either in good fun, or the kid is a complete dork that secretly kept Griz paraphernalia on his locker.
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If he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.
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It’ll be interesting to see what kind of welcome he gets in Bozeman next November…
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At the end of the day, the kid just wants a chance to play and he thinks there's a better shot at UM than MSU. Jaxon Lee is a starting safety for UM and they're close friends and former teammates in high school. He's closer to P-burg. Hope he gets a shot at some varsity minutes.94VegasCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 8:35 amIf he has the games of his life on the third Saturday of November, we can rage about it then if it costs us a W. Disappointed when Montana kids leave but maybe he didn’t fit the bill. Vim is right more than not. I’ll wish the kid the best except for that one mentioned Saturday.
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All in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.
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As is always the case. Cat and Griz players are ALWAYS more respectful to one another than Cat and Griz fans.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:34 amAll in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.

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That’s what I figured. Whoever is the clown behind the account ‘Johnny Appleseed’ is a tumor of a human.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:34 amAll in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.
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It can get dark on social media...both sides have weirdos and sometimes I'm unsure if they actually are humans.SparkCat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:56 amThat’s what I figured. Whoever is the clown behind the account ‘Johnny Appleseed’ is a tumor of a human.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 10:34 amAll in fun with the players. Now Griz and Bobcat fans...that's a different story on Twitter/X.
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Sure, until we give up a big play with the 3rd team safety/nickel in the game and a bunch in here immediately call for the coordinators heads.lutecat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 4:44 amThanks for the insights Vim. Interesting to hear that. And honestly not very much talked about in a program. It's the best way to get guys experience and see what they can do. Throw then into the fire and face live bullets. Disappointed to hear that. I hope Daly is more adept at getting guys on the field for depth.VimSince03 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 4:30 pmDidn't work out here in the Nickel or Safety positions. Kade had some injuries his first few years but was ready to contribute this fall and, in my opinion, unfairly never got an opportunity. Ortt/Polidore were our two best safeties to start the year and Dowler/Price locked down the nickel spot. Unquestionably those two spots had the best players starting. However, the depth was shaky. At nickel, we lost both Dowler and Price during the year and instead of moving in another strong safety type like Kade or Aidan Parks (who shined in spring ball in my opinion), we moved Miles Jackson from corner into nickel with mixed results. At safety, Blake Stillwell was the clear #3 per the coaching staff with Bailey/Pottenger jockying for the 4th spot. Next two up were probably Brock Steel and Kade.
Vigen lets his staff decide who is above the line and below the line in terms of "kids who are ready to see the field" each year and that's how the depth gets established. For whatever reason on the defensive side of the ball, I saw the "above the line" players get smaller and smaller the past two years specifically in the secondary and at LB. I completely trust the coaches to play who they feel they can trust. That should be exactly what you want coaches to do as fans. However, I kept hearing more and more this year from spring ball forward that Garza has "his guys" and if you can't break through into that group, it will be hard to see the field. Aidan Parks is a perfect example in my book and a hard-nosed kid like Kade is another. You have to at least give those kids opportunities to prove themselves when they are 3rd or 4th year guys and injuries start to hit. When Miles Jackson was called up at nickel for Sac State instead of Parks, I said to myself (man Aidan is never going to see the field on defense is he).
On the field would it have changed things this year? No not really. I'm a big believer in the best players need to play and if you don't beat out the competition, you are just going to have to improve or see the game from the sideline. I just don't feel like guys like Kade Cutler or Aidan Parks were really given a fair shake to at least get ONE opportunity to play varsity minutes. You need to give kids opportunities to show they can be trusted in a game setting when they've put the time in to your program AND the on-field result is lacking with the players playing in front of them. Our secondary and LB depth took a hit this year because we had a lot of sophomores and juniors sitting on the roster with no game experience. In some cases, freshman played in front of them. Daly & Co. need to figure out how to get our quality depth rotation back in order or else we're going to struggle again in 2024 as injuries always happen each year. That's all.
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Makes it sound like there was some sort of agenda by the coaching against whoever he is. Will he even suit up for UM or is he just saying he’s transferring to UM and will try to be a walk-on? I noticed @VimSince03 used the phrase “unfairly” which indicates to me that Vigen and the staff are playing guys for reasons other than performance. That’s a big and negative accusation to make that should impact recruiting, isn’t it? If coaches aren’t putting the best players on the field? It also diminishes the on-field and practice efforts of those getting playing time if it’s true.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 pmFair shake? Sorry, but you have to earn a spot, it isn’t just given to you. Clearly he wasn’t as good as the others on the field.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 pmCan’t say I blame him, just never love seeing someone switch sides.
But it sounds like he grew up a griz fan, committed to the previous coach that’s no longer here, and didn’t get a fair shake at real playing time here. Sounds like a pretty good recipe to leave and go to the other side.
Hope he does well 10 games per year.
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He has to make the travel squad as a first step.
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Unless the coach accused of using players unfairly is the coach we let go...PapaG wrote: ↑Thu Dec 28, 2023 11:10 amMakes it sound like there was some sort of agenda by the coaching against whoever he is. Will he even suit up for UM or is he just saying he’s transferring to UM and will try to be a walk-on? I noticed @VimSince03 used the phrase “unfairly” which indicates to me that Vigen and the staff are playing guys for reasons other than performance. That’s a big and negative accusation to make that should impact recruiting, isn’t it? If coaches aren’t putting the best players on the field? It also diminishes the on-field and practice efforts of those getting playing time if it’s true.GoCats18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 11:17 pmFair shake? Sorry, but you have to earn a spot, it isn’t just given to you. Clearly he wasn’t as good as the others on the field.Catsrgrood wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 9:39 pmCan’t say I blame him, just never love seeing someone switch sides.
But it sounds like he grew up a griz fan, committed to the previous coach that’s no longer here, and didn’t get a fair shake at real playing time here. Sounds like a pretty good recipe to leave and go to the other side.
Hope he does well 10 games per year.
