I agree with you 100% and agree it is unsportsmanlike. Love the idea for ejection. I can guarantee that ISU was doing things to draw them offsides because 9 infractions is virtually impossible without some cheating. Because it is cheating. It is against the rules. My biggest beef was the coaches were not complaining to the refs about it. They need to be in their ears telling them to look for it.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:50 pmThank you. Yes, that’s what I thought. They’re intentionally doing it, which makes it unsportsmanlike.D-Wreck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:43 pm"Disconcerting signals" was the call I believe.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:33 pmThat’s an oversimplification.coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:24 pmThe false starts have been an issue all season, not just in the playoffs. The (out of state) playoff opponents just studied the film and found a weakness and exploited it.
SFA being penalized for impersonating(?) the snap count (or whatever it’s called) opens the door to other teams doing the same. I saw MSU players pointing that out last night but it was never called.
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The play they called PF for pushing Crews to ground and jumping on him, the tackle had him around the neck before that happened. Should have been hold and PF.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:07 pmThey were also very good at holding. What does it take for some ref crews to call a holding? One was so egregious that it could have been called for horsecaller.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:52 pmThe ISU OL was incredibly good. I’m not sure how they only scored 21 vs SELA, 7 vs SIU. The whole team revolved around them.hokeyfine wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 1:45 pmThis is probably one of the most significant wins in bobcat history. Not only because it was a national championship, but because of who we beat. We were playing the hottest team in the playoffs. This was a team that was playing loose and with confidence. Everything was clicking for them in their victories. The guts and resilience that the Cats showed, especially in the second half, was indicative of the season. Look at the punches they took during games but they were able to rebound from it. You can blame players and/or coaches but if you really step back and think about our opponent you can't help but see an amazing victory.
The defense wasn’t very good and MSU really hurt itself on the first drive of the second half and by getting baited, or not, into 9(?) false starts. They overcame at least five of them to get in the end zone.
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My son talked to a Bobcat offensive lineman, and he said some of that was going on but the refs just didn't hear it.Bobcat Sig wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 12:59 pmI’m convinced that the isu defensive front was barking like Yale and causing false starts from our o-line
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I'd love for someone to get some info from the coaches or players, or to rewatch the game frame by frame to see if they can't see something on tape. 9 without some influence from the defense seems absurd.
At some point though, as a coach you need to switch to different way to snap the ball? I mean I don't know enough about football to know if that is easy to do, a silent count, something, but it was clearly a pattern and we didn't seem to do anything about it.
At some point though, as a coach you need to switch to different way to snap the ball? I mean I don't know enough about football to know if that is easy to do, a silent count, something, but it was clearly a pattern and we didn't seem to do anything about it.
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I think they tried. We started going fast so our guys would have less time to jump. Course that makes it harder to hold the ball for long periods.CelticCat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:48 pmI'd love for someone to get some info from the coaches or players, or to rewatch the game frame by frame to see if they can't see something on tape. 9 without some influence from the defense seems absurd.
At some point though, as a coach you need to switch to different way to snap the ball? I mean I don't know enough about football to know if that is easy to do, a silent count, something, but it was clearly a pattern and we didn't seem to do anything about it.
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Another question for somebody that might know. According to the rule you cannot score a touchdown by fumbling the ball forward into the end zone unless the person that fumbles recovers it. Their offensive lineman recovered the forward fumble, why was that a touchdown? You could clearly see it on replay
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I thought the same thing.golden77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:15 pmAnother question for somebody that might know. According to the rule you cannot score a touchdown by fumbling the ball forward into the end zone unless the person that fumbles recovers it. Their offensive lineman recovered the forward fumble, why was that a touchdown? You could clearly see it on replay
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This is where I am. Our guys could and would understandably be jumpy. But there were a few calls, especially in the fourth, where there was no movement. And yet, another false start penalty. WTFCelticCat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 12:48 pmI'd love for someone to get some info from the coaches or players, or to rewatch the game frame by frame to see if they can't see something on tape. 9 without some influence from the defense seems absurd.
At some point though, as a coach you need to switch to different way to snap the ball? I mean I don't know enough about football to know if that is easy to do, a silent count, something, but it was clearly a pattern and we didn't seem to do anything about it.
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Can someone with cred help make the catch, Justin to Taco, a phrase for remembrance like the immaculate reception!” How about “fourth and forever?” We need something, that when you say it, everybody knows where, who, what, and when!
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What did Taco say? "Calm. Collected. Throw me the damn ball.."Cat - Diesel Power wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:56 pmCan someone with cred help make the catch, Justin to Taco, a phrase for remembrance like the immaculate reception!” How about “fourth and forever?” We need something, that when you say it, everybody knows where, who, what, and when!
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Bobcat Football just posted a clip on social media, and simply called it, "The Touchdown"technoCat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 5:00 pmWhat did Taco say? "Calm. Collected. Throw me the damn ball.."Cat - Diesel Power wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 4:56 pmCan someone with cred help make the catch, Justin to Taco, a phrase for remembrance like the immaculate reception!” How about “fourth and forever?” We need something, that when you say it, everybody knows where, who, what, and when!
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If they were wrong on that, they were wrong on the one by Lamson against SFA that Long recovered in the EZ for a TD.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:17 pmI thought the same thing.golden77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:15 pmAnother question for somebody that might know. According to the rule you cannot score a touchdown by fumbling the ball forward into the end zone unless the person that fumbles recovers it. Their offensive lineman recovered the forward fumble, why was that a touchdown? You could clearly see it on replay
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Vigen was all over the side judge on a couple in the 3Q. They just weren't going to call it, or couldn't hear it, or whatever the reason.Cataholic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:11 pmI agree with you 100% and agree it is unsportsmanlike. Love the idea for ejection. I can guarantee that ISU was doing things to draw them offsides because 9 infractions is virtually impossible without some cheating. Because it is cheating. It is against the rules. My biggest beef was the coaches were not complaining to the refs about it. They need to be in their ears telling them to look for it.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:50 pmThank you. Yes, that’s what I thought. They’re intentionally doing it, which makes it unsportsmanlike.D-Wreck wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:43 pm"Disconcerting signals" was the call I believe.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:33 pmThat’s an oversimplification.coloradocat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 2:24 pmThe false starts have been an issue all season, not just in the playoffs. The (out of state) playoff opponents just studied the film and found a weakness and exploited it.
SFA being penalized for impersonating(?) the snap count (or whatever it’s called) opens the door to other teams doing the same. I saw MSU players pointing that out last night but it was never called.
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Whoever sat next to the ref cleared up the rule for me! All good! So close to recovering it.TomCat88 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 5:12 pmIf they were wrong on that, they were wrong on the one by Lamson against SFA that Long recovered in the EZ for a TD.Bocephus wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:17 pmI thought the same thing.golden77 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 07, 2026 1:15 pmAnother question for somebody that might know. According to the rule you cannot score a touchdown by fumbling the ball forward into the end zone unless the person that fumbles recovers it. Their offensive lineman recovered the forward fumble, why was that a touchdown? You could clearly see it on replay