Jhase McMillan

[ilovethecats]

I stated in other places... it isn't about money for him. His parents are college educated and have good jobs. They aren't rich but they don't need to chase money. That doesn't motivate them. He wants to play on the biggest stage he can get to in order to prepare him and position him for an opportunity at the nfl. He's a redshirt frosh he might go be a back up at a p4 school for a year. But his last two years playing in the SEC or big10 being a stand out player will better position him to achieve his goals. He might not like what these other programs have to offer and will return, I don't know but please stop throwing out the narrative that its all about money for every kid. Because for him and his family it flat out isn't the driving force for his decision.

I talked with his dad and he said it was a tough decision but they felt it was best for them to see if there were other opportunities that could better position him for his end goals. You know kinda like coaches do every year or non athletes do in their every day jobs. Go places that allow them to grow and get to their ultimate goals....ijs

Can’t really fault Jhase for looking for opportunity. It’s the world we live in now.

But coaches have jobs, student athletes are still students. It’s a bit of a false comparison.

To be fair it’s the world we’ve ALWAYS lived in. The difference being that now the PLAYERS can take better opportunities and more money just like every coach and every person with a job has always been able to do.

It’s not a job. Never was.

That’s fine. Call it whatever you’d like. Their services were ALWAYS making a lot of people a lot of money. Just not them. At least not out in the open. The great players at big schools were already being paid for their work on the football field, “job” or not. Now all those same players can do all the work on the field in addition to all the work in the classroom in addition to all their community work, which feels like a “job” but for the sake of argument we won’t call it that; and they can get paid for all those things. And they have options to better their situation that before only coaches could do. Well coaches and every other student at every university that isn’t playing sports.

So like I said the only thing that is different now than before, is the actual players, the guys who matter, get a piece of the pie and options to better their lives.

This argument gets thrown out there all the time. Not many Programs break even let alone make money. If they did ticket prices and booster fees wouldn't go up like they have and there wouldn't be a need for collectives and non stop fundraising. Could just give out a share of the Profits.

I never said anything about the program. Though I’d dispute some of that as well. I said a lot of PEOPLE were making a lot of MONEY on the backs of these athletes that weren’t getting a dime. And the ones that were getting money were getting it secretly.

I think the whole deal needs some structure. Not by the ncaa cause they’ve proved they’re terrible. I think changes need to be made. So I’m for some reform for sure. But my mind won’t change in regards to players getting paid and having the opportunity to better their situation. Just like I didn’t feel my father did anything wrong when I was growing up and he moved me into about 7 houses in 2 states taking about 8 different jobs; all that paid better than the last and gave me opportunities I wouldn’t otherwise have had.

A lot of people tied to how many teams? Getting paid like a college age person in a non professional sport, or getting 30,000 a year tuition, strength and conditioning, nutrition, nil.
It is just a fallacy that there is so much money out there other than the top programs. I think we are already seeing buyer fatigue. Boosters paying to get kids that stay 1 year, don't pan out. That money ever runs out things may calm down.
They deserve something but not to make more than pro athletes. I do find it odd coaches complain when many have guaranteed contracts and buyouts. That helped create this mess.
Do you think a top Cat DB or WR should make more than their position coach does.

I think they are worth whatever amount a school is willing to pay them. If that means they are making more than pros that just furthers my point. It’s very very hard to make the nfl. If you can make that kind of money in college you’d be a moron to turn it down.

Same goes for coaches. If you’re a coach and you have players making more money than you, then go somewhere else for more money if the opportunity is available. Coaches have been doing that since the beginning of time and now players get to.

And if the money eventually dries up, which I don’t see happening, even more reason for these players to get paid while they still can.

Your missing my point. Not saying they shouldn't get some. I do believe system is broke. I do believe money will dry up. When the top FBS go to own system it will change dynamics. Schools are not paying these amounts. Booster are.

Respectfully I don't think I missed your point at all. I addressed two points that you made verbatim.

You own words said they should get paid but not as much as pros. I don't think that's true. If a program, i.e. boosters are willing to pay a college kid millions of dollars, then that kid is worth millions of dollars. Regardless of anything else. And make no mistake, if you get paid to play a sport you're a pro. That ship has sailed.

You finished by asking if a top player should make more than their position coach. Again, if a program is willing to pay them more than their position coach, then they are worth more than their position coach. Jimmies and Joes are worth more than X's and O's all day long.

[catatac]

Back to the Jhase discussion, I watched an interview with Lamson this morning, and he made a comment that I really liked, for a couple reasons. I talked about how awesome Jhase was in terms of his work ethic, was always putting in the extra effort, etc. He mentioned that Jhase had entered the portal, and said something like, "I hope he comes back, but with him the best in whatever happens...". So that tells me that A: Vigen will allow players to come back if things don't pan out in the portal, and B: Lamson isn't going anywhere.

[CelticCat]

Do you think a top Cat DB or WR should make more than their position coach does.

I mean, that's the way the NFL works.

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Back to the Jhase discussion, I watched an interview with Lamson this morning, and he made a comment that I really liked, for a couple reasons. I talked about how awesome Jhase was in terms of his work ethic, was always putting in the extra effort, etc. He mentioned that Jhase had entered the portal, and said something like, "I hope he comes back, but with him the best in whatever happens...". So that tells me that A: Vigen will allow players to come back if things don't pan out in the portal, and B: Lamson isn't going anywhere.

Love all of that. I think as long as the communication is open Vigen is open to players returning if options they are looking for don’t pan out. Where can I find that interview?

[kwcat]

Back to the Jhase discussion, I watched an interview with Lamson this morning, and he made a comment that I really liked, for a couple reasons. I talked about how awesome Jhase was in terms of his work ethic, was always putting in the extra effort, etc. He mentioned that Jhase had entered the portal, and said something like, "I hope he comes back, but with him the best in whatever happens...". So that tells me that A: Vigen will allow players to come back if things don't pan out in the portal, and B: Lamson isn't going anywhere.

Love all of that. I think as long as the communication is open Vigen is open to players returning if options they are looking for don’t pan out. Where can I find that interview?

I believe it’s the one I posted under Lamson