The Bobby Hauck Show (concerning Bostick)

[MSU Toddler]

Look if it happened, I apologize. I have no spoken to roughly 45 people who were there and not one of them heard it or saw it, so I'll be honest, I have my doubts. I know for a fact it was NOT the entire team yelling, but perhaps a few random kids did. It was not precipitated by Bobby, and the entire team did not participate. Trust me, in that stadium, 100 men yelling FTC would have been audible to EVERYone still in there.

Bottom line is, nothing I say will change any of your minds about Hauck, much like nothing you could say would have made most Griz fans dislike Kramer any less. And nothing you could say would make me believe that Ash is anything but a complete non-factor in this game or the BSC. He's a good guy by all accounts, but as a coach? A non-factor.

It happened. I don't know that Bobby started it or encouraged it. But I lingered in the stadium until nearly all of the players were gone. After singing to the crowd the team went to the center of the field and gathered to accept the trophy. The seniors and some staff had their photos taken with it and then they circled around. Their spritual leader and former player, Mike McGown talked to the team. Bobby talked to the team and then the all came together in a group and chanted FTC,FTC. The Weber game was on GrizVision and most of the crowd was watching that game. Then the fans were allowed onto the field.

I hate to admit it, but I saw it happen.

holy crap - the griz and griz fans said mean stuff about the Cats? gees! if you want to act like a dink, you have every right to. bh is a dink - so what?

what is really stupd is to act like one side doesn't do this and then complain about it. for instance, i recall a griz fan being upset about stuff said when the game was in Bozeman - so much so that she wrote the newspaper and complained. she also said that the same stuff doesn't happen at wa-griz. IT DOES!

both sides have dinks...get over it.

[info197176]

[94VegasCat]

Look if it happened, I apologize. I have no spoken to roughly 45 people who were there and not one of them heard it or saw it, so I'll be honest, I have my doubts. I know for a fact it was NOT the entire team yelling, but perhaps a few random kids did. It was not precipitated by Bobby, and the entire team did not participate. Trust me, in that stadium, 100 men yelling FTC would have been audible to EVERYone still in there.

Bottom line is, nothing I say will change any of your minds about Hauck, much like nothing you could say would have made most Griz fans dislike Kramer any less. And nothing you could say would make me believe that Ash is anything but a complete non-factor in this game or the BSC. He's a good guy by all accounts, but as a coach? A non-factor.

It happened. I don't know that Bobby started it or encouraged it. But I lingered in the stadium until nearly all of the players were gone. After singing to the crowd the team went to the center of the field and gathered to accept the trophy. The seniors and some staff had their photos taken with it and then they circled around. Their spritual leader and former player, Mike McGown talked to the team. Bobby talked to the team and then the all came together in a group and chanted FTC,FTC. The Weber game was on GrizVision and most of the crowd was watching that game. Then the fans were allowed onto the field.

I hate to admit it, but I saw it happen.

Fans saying bad things about the rival is expected. But when a team does it at the end of a team prayer at the team logo, that is different and that is why I took exception to it.

My FTG signature was there for quite awhile, I just added the crack at ginwa last night when this tiff started. Also, I had FTG on my personal plates from 1992-96 or so. When I moved to Las Vegas in 1998, I put FTG on my Nevada plates as well.

holy crap - the griz and griz fans said mean stuff about the Cats? gees! if you want to act like a dink, you have every right to. bh is a dink - so what?

what is really stupd is to act like one side doesn't do this and then complain about it. for instance, i recall a griz fan being upset about stuff said when the game was in Bozeman - so much so that she wrote the newspaper and complained. she also said that the same stuff doesn't happen at wa-griz. IT DOES!

both sides have dinks...get over it.

[AlphaGriz1]

I was on the field after the game and didn't hear any chants of FTC.

We left after being down there when Weber fumbled so I can't say what happened later, just that I didn't hear anything while I was down there.

My son and I were talking to Colt Anderson, since we don't know him or talk to him......you know.

I don't watch the Hauck show so I can't comment on that other than Bobbie hauck is a piece of something and I still hope he leaves.

[MrTitleist]

I think it's funny Cat fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but Bobby hates the Cats.. he hates the Cats more than he hates (presumably) Oprah. He doesn't even try to hide it.. he doesn't even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Cats." He has the fire a coach needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If Bobby used his hate to fuel his players, let him. It seems to have paid off. If the players (Griz players) hate the Cats as much as Bobby, great! If the Cat players hate the Griz as much as Kramer did (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Cat players who show the same hate for the Griz as Bobby does for the Cats, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been Bobcat led FTG chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Griz led FTC chants. That's how rivalries work. Call it classless all you want, but I guarantee we'd be having this discussion on eGriz had the Cats won on Saturday. They probably would have stomped up and down on our bear at midfield or something. MSU Toddler's post pretty much hit the nail on the head. Get over it, it happens with these two teams, and one side is just as guilty as the other. Personally, I love Bobby's fire for this rivalry, and I love his passion for it.. if Cat fans can't deal with it, then so be it. Play your class all you want, all that matters is the score on the board at the end of the game.

[MengGriz]

lets face it, BH has lately said some things he might regret. concerning his comment about hating the cats, but everyone uses the word hate much too commonly. i say i hate the cats when in fact i am a missoulian who will be attending bozeman next year. about BH saying Bostick is average i am pretty sure he is referring to the tight end postition. Tight ends usually dont have as big of an affect on a game as quarterbacks do, just like BH said

[Lady Fan of the Griz]

I watched the show and I understand why Cat fans took his comments the way they did. I knew as soon as he said it there would be an issue. He did stumble a bit I thought around the comment and I took it that he was trying to correct what he said which probably only made it worse. I don't care for a lot of what Hauck says to the media because I feel sometimes he comes off as too arrogant but I can honestly say I really don't remember him ever putting down a specific player. He typically gives credit to opposing players. That's why I think he realized after he said it that it came out wrong but trying to fix it didn't work.

As for the FTC I was there but I was paying attention to the Weber game. If it happened like the one cat fan stated before the fans got on the field I can understand why many folks didn't even know it happened. I would expect the coach and team to do that outside the public eye.

[cats2506]

I think it's funny Cat fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but Bobby hates the Cats.. he hates the Cats more than he hates (presumably) Oprah. He doesn't even try to hide it.. he doesn't even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Cats." He has the fire a coach needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If Bobby used his hate to fuel his players, let him. It seems to have paid off. If the players (Griz players) hate the Cats as much as Bobby, great! If the Cat players hate the Griz as much as Kramer did (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Cat players who show the same hate for the Griz as Bobby does for the Cats, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been Bobcat led FTG chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Griz led FTC chants. That's how rivalries work. Call it classless all you want, but I guarantee we'd be having this discussion on eGriz had the Cats won on Saturday. They probably would have stomped up and down on our bear at midfield or something. MSU Toddler's post pretty much hit the nail on the head. Get over it, it happens with these two teams, and one side is just as guilty as the other. Personally, I love Bobby's fire for this rivalry, and I love his passion for it.. if Cat fans can't deal with it, then so be it. Play your class all you want, all that matters is the score on the board at the end of the game.

I think it's funny Griz fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this before, but Cat fans hate Bobby. I hate the Bobby more than I hate Oprah. We dont even try to hide it. I dont even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Bobby." We have the fire fans needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If we used our hate to fuel fans, let us. It seems to have paid off, since Bobby does more things to damage his carrear. If the fans (Cat fans) hate the griz as much as I do, great! If the Griz hate the Cats as much as some Cat fans do (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Griz fans who show the same hate for the Cats as we do for the griz, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been griz led FTC chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Cat led FTG chants. That's how rivalries work. ……..

Well I got tired of changing names in your little rant but you have you panties in a pretty tight twist just because we think your coach is a POS

[MengGriz]

Well I got tired of changing names in your little rant but you have you panties in a pretty tight twist just because we think your coach is a POS Image

i think most grizzlies hate Bobby too....especially cause we can't always complain cause he keeps winning...except hes not winning us a championship. So as long as he's our coach we'll defend him but on the inside we all hate him!

[ursusmissoulus]

Missed the chant. I really doubt that the coaches led it if it happened at all. I headed to the tailgate laughing my a$$ off after our D lineman outran C to the endzone after the pick 6. Enjoy the turkey, again.

[MrTitleist]

I think it's funny Cat fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but Bobby hates the Cats.. he hates the Cats more than he hates (presumably) Oprah. He doesn't even try to hide it.. he doesn't even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Cats." He has the fire a coach needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If Bobby used his hate to fuel his players, let him. It seems to have paid off. If the players (Griz players) hate the Cats as much as Bobby, great! If the Cat players hate the Griz as much as Kramer did (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Cat players who show the same hate for the Griz as Bobby does for the Cats, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been Bobcat led FTG chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Griz led FTC chants. That's how rivalries work. Call it classless all you want, but I guarantee we'd be having this discussion on eGriz had the Cats won on Saturday. They probably would have stomped up and down on our bear at midfield or something. MSU Toddler's post pretty much hit the nail on the head. Get over it, it happens with these two teams, and one side is just as guilty as the other. Personally, I love Bobby's fire for this rivalry, and I love his passion for it.. if Cat fans can't deal with it, then so be it. Play your class all you want, all that matters is the score on the board at the end of the game.

I think it's funny Griz fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this before, but Cat fans hate Bobby. I hate the Bobby more than I hate Oprah. We dont even try to hide it. I dont even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Bobby." We have the fire fans needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If we used our hate to fuel fans, let us. It seems to have paid off, since Bobby does more things to damage his carrear. If the fans (Cat fans) hate the griz as much as I do, great! If the Griz hate the Cats as much as some Cat fans do (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Griz fans who show the same hate for the Cats as we do for the griz, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been griz led FTC chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Cat led FTG chants. That's how rivalries work. ……..

Well I got tired of changing names in your little rant but you have you panties in a pretty tight twist just because we think your coach is a POS

Nice post numbnut.
Sweet emoticon.. ours on eGriz looks slightly different.

[LongTimeCatFan]

All I've got to say is Karma is a bitch and he's got a large sized slice of humble pie coming his way. We may not win this year, or next year, but in the game of life, one game a year couldn't be as important as other things. Here's what I mean; Bobby's blatant hatred of the Cats could be the death of his career. With each remark, smirk, slam, smack he loses more and more respect with people in Montana. Not only Cat fans, but Griz fans, his friends, sounds like his family (heard a story about his relatives second hand) are all losing respect for him. But lets not stop there. It now seems that due to his idiocy, his career has no chance of advancement because no one wants a class-less jerk as the face of their program especially if it needs rebuilt (which in most cases is why they are in need of a new coach,see UW, Stanford). In order to overcome that it seems, he'll have to a)learn to shut his mouth, b)win championships, or c) both.

So Griz fans if you are happy with him I say great! You keep him, but his Karma will be yours as well. Since he has been there, the Cats have gained ground by leaps and bounds on the recruiting battle in Montana. We still are not winning that battle, but we are sure getting closer. We have plans on expanding our stadium to also help our cause. And I'll put this to you. You guys once said that players parents weren't comfortable sending their kids to MSU due to all of the garbage going on. How do you feel most parents now feel about UM with this guy as their potential leader/mentor? Plus, it seems that its ok if you get 3 DUI's at UM(see Quinn), you can still play on Bobby's team. What sort of message do you want to send 18-24 year olds? This is a valid question because you were asking the same of Kramer.

We all were blindly in love with Kramer because he was finally able to beat you guys, but now after he was fired and most of the facts were out, most of us believe we did the right thing. He was going down and taking us with him if we held on much longer. Currently we have stopped the hemorrhaging and Ash and Co. have us headed down the right path. I believe a healthy balance of honor and the ability to produce wins is what we've got and it can only get better. So as a parent, which coach would you rather send your young son to learn from?

I believe Bobby has a solid mind for the game otherwise he wouldn't have accomplished what he did this year with that young of a team. I just don't think he does it honorably or in a manner that commands respect with comments like: "I don't care if you are a Griz fan, coach, or player yesterday was a great day to be a Griz. Anytime you can shut your hated rival down and drive them into the ground is a great day." You go Bobby. Keep running your mouth, you are obviously good at it, but realize that it may cripple you in the future.

Now, as a side note, there is nothing wrong with saying these sorts of things in the locker room, or private supporter club(I don't know what they call their QBC), or any other private setting. It is part of the rivalry. God knows we all say the same crap from time to time, but none of us are the face of a program or say these things on TV or in the middle of the field after the game. And no its not because we don't have the balls to, it has more to do with respect for all Montanan's that a head coach should have.


PS: GinWA, from your previous posts on this thread I can see you still haven't gone to get your glass-ectomy.

[Billings_Griz]

Greatest thread ever.

"FTC", as our head coach would say.

[jagur1]

Greatest thread ever.

"FTC", as our head coach would say.

Well they have to have something to talk about on this board don't they.

[GrizinWashington]

God, it's Great to be a Griz.

[WalkOn79]

I think it's funny Cat fans are getting so twisted about this.. I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but Bobby hates the Cats.. he hates the Cats more than he hates (presumably) Oprah. He doesn't even try to hide it.. he doesn't even try a poker face when someone asks, "How do you feel about the Cats." He has the fire a coach needs going into a rivalry game. This is one of the oldest rivalries in all of college football, if you can't get up for Cat/Griz, you shouldn't be either one. If Bobby used his hate to fuel his players, let him. It seems to have paid off. If the players (Griz players) hate the Cats as much as Bobby, great! If the Cat players hate the Griz as much as Kramer did (does, whatever), we'd have a game on our hands! I'm sure there's more than a few Cat players who show the same hate for the Griz as Bobby does for the Cats, your roots are as deeply seeded as ours. I'm sure there's been Bobcat led FTG chants in the past, just as there have (has) been Griz led FTC chants. That's how rivalries work. Call it classless all you want, but I guarantee we'd be having this discussion on eGriz had the Cats won on Saturday. They probably would have stomped up and down on our bear at midfield or something. MSU Toddler's post pretty much hit the nail on the head. Get over it, it happens with these two teams, and one side is just as guilty as the other. Personally, I love Bobby's fire for this rivalry, and I love his passion for it.. if Cat fans can't deal with it, then so be it. Play your class all you want, all that matters is the score on the board at the end of the game.

Okay then, I'm cool with all that was said above. Bobby's obvious hatred for his arch rival is clearly evident and out there for the world to see. So if the tables were turned on Saturday and the Cats were also preparing for a 1st round playoff game, who on this board believes that BH would (publicly or privately) be pulling for all the MONTANA kids wearing Bobcat blue and gold?

Lets put it this way. My mother MSRIP would not miss a Grizzly playoff game when Don Read, Dennehy or Joe Glenn were at the helm, cause she wanted to see all those MONTANA boys do well in the post season, and she had respect for the men leading the charge. I highly doubt that she would root for any BH led team with his clear distain for anything Bobcat if she were alive today. So this is one Montana guy's stand against anything Grizzly until BH is no longer associated with UM athletics, or at least until he learns to show some respect and humility. (Highly unlikely)

I know, you all don't care cause I'll be home for Thanksgiving......

Just don't bitch if any of us root for the other Bobcats on Saturday.

[SonomaCat]

Just a reminder ... when the footage from the show becomes available online, will somebody please post it on this thread? It will be interesting for everyone to give their own listen to what he said regarding TEs/Bostick as opposed to relying on the descriptions of others.

[ImagineSanta]

My whole thought for this thread is..... and? I love saying FTG, if they want to copy and say FTC, go for it. If BH wants to call our TE 'average,' he has every right to do so. It may be stupid and classless, but he has every right to say it. Good Lord people.

[Old Skool Cat]

This thread has got one one of the stupidest I have ever seen. It's just one big pissing match that we all know exists. Cat fans hate the griz, griz fans hate the Cats; big surprise. I will say one thing, though -- when the griz where led by Don Read, I hated the griz but I respected the hell out 'em, players & staff. These days, I still hate the griz but I haven't the slightest shred of respect for their program. They belittle every team in the conference, their administration feels as though they are above anyone else, their fans have become spoiled, arrogant babies, whining over anything that doesn't go their way. Honestly, if the Big Sky conference is below you, please feel free to move on.

As for FTG or FTC or ESG GCG, I think it's all childish bullsh$t. I have never chanted it, nor will I teach my kids to chant it. It's a classless act that will only come back to bite you in the arse. I honestly believe FTG was born out of the streak, when it seemed like the Cats would never turn things around and some fans thought that FTG might be all they have. I still cringe when I hear it chanted at Bobcat games, as though some people are too ignorant or creative to come up with anything else. I would rather my team take care of business on the field. Whenever you compete, whether it be athletics or anything else, you have to know how to handle the winning as well as handle the losing. Somewhere along the way, some Cat fan have forgot how to handle the losses and some griz fans have forgotten to how handle the success.

[GrizinWashington]

Ahh, a very interesting development in this story:

Here is the truth behind the TE(Bostick) comment, after the game one the Griz Coaches tried to go over and shake his hand tell him sorry to hear about your knee and his comment to our LB coach was "I dont need to shake your f#^king hand". Now that is really classy on that kid. He is just a bitter because the Griz did not want him.