Selection show

[Augustus]

We’re better than Idaho, so I’m not bothered.

This. While we should worry about all of them, the only one to really be concerned with is USD in the semis. But it's at home and we're better than they are. And, when we embarrass the team that knocked off NDSU, that'll put some concern in our Championship opponent's mind.

[Monymony]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

[tetoncat]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

[BleedingBLue]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Which is pretty ridiculous if you don't win the games that make your SOS high.

[BleedingBLue]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

[nanacat]

So I only caught the first 8 seeds, but heard UM got 14 and NAU got in. So that's 5 Big Sky teams in the playoffs? And 4 from the Missouri Valley conference? That's pretty impressive. Has the Big Sky had 5 in before? I did ready that this is the first #1 seed for the Big Sky since Montana had it in 2009.
I love, love, love that the road to Frisco is through Bozeman, and that we don't see the Dakotas until semi finals.

[onceacat]

I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.

The thing I find most interesting was the fact the commitee ordered these teams in nearly identical order to the Stats poll, yet the poll wasn't supposed to be part of the factors this year. The next thing I find interesting is that the 4 CAA teams that got in were all 9-16 seeds, yet not one was deserving of a top 8 seed? I think the committee did less work on this bracket than you, me, Sam Herder and everyone else who put time into their predictions and prognostications throughout the year. I do believe all the right teams got in, but I do believe the seeding should have been different.

Well, yeah. Not one of the CAA teams deserved a seed. I think that was pretty clear. Richmond has that really bad loss to Wofford combined with a super weak SOS. Rhody doesn't have any good wins & also a really weak SOS. So that makes sense. But I'm not sure you can put an undefeated CAA champ behind a 4 loss gris team...

[onceacat]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

LOL, yeah, only one ranked win. Of course, it was the #1 team. And we've been saying all year that theres a BIG gap between the Top 3 and everyone else.

And they finished #4 anyway...knocked off the #1 team and it didn't change their rank at all. Their reward for beating the Bizen is that they get to go to Bozeman.

LOL. The committee did a number on the Yotes.

[onceacat]

I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.

I'm with you on these. I can see some minor adjustments...maybe UIW is a little overrated at #6, but only a spot or two (they mostly rolled their overmatched competition by 2-3 scores & have a win over NAU). NAU isn't really shocking over a 5th CAA team, but I think SUU maybe has a bit of a gripe...but theres no way that the UAC gets the same number of slots as the Big Sky & the MVFC. I think it's really hard for the committee to reward teams that play in weak conferences with that many playoff spots.

I would have given USD a bump due to their win over the #1 team...if they had lost, they would still have been #4, but would have been set up for a rematch against NDSU in the Semis...instead they have to come to Bozeman-a harder, colder trip against a team thats been lethal at home. I think this is a huge reward for MSU from the committee for its FBS win & undefeated path through one of the premier conferences.

Everything is a minor quibble though. It all falls within "reasonable people can disagree' which is about where you want things to be. Nothing in this is shocking in any way.

For the most part, I agree. THe committee showed me that losses do not matter. You can lose three and still get a top seed. Or in the case of the griz, lose four and still get a seed.

I guess that’s where we are with the FCS these days.

No matter; Go CATS!!

Yeah, you can lose 3 & get a Top 8 seed. It's been that way for years. Remember how that helped out the Cats last year?

And of course the gris are gonna get a seed now that they've moved to 16 seeds. For crying out loud, look at the unseeded teams below them.

As many of us have been saying in the various move up threads, thats where the FCS is these days. Outside of the top teams, it's REALLY watered down relative to 15 or 20 years ago. Plus, there are a lot more playoff spots. So lots of undeserving teams get into the playoffs every year.

[BleedingBLue]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

LOL, yeah, only one ranked win. Of course, it was the #1 team. And we've been saying all year that theres a BIG gap between the Top 3 and everyone else.

And they finished #4 anyway...knocked off the #1 team and it didn't change their rank at all. Their reward for beating the Bizen is that they get to go to Bozeman.

LOL. The committee did a number on the Yotes.

Even if they were 5 they'd have been coming to Bozeman, but this way they get a 2nd home game.

If USD wasn't ranked in the top 4 or 5 to start the day yesterday, and hadnt atarted the season there, they wouldn't have been the 4 seed. That's my whole problem with their seed. Their position to start the year aided their final seed. Davis' position to start the year (18) hampered their seed. Overall body of work, DI wins, ranked wins, and quality wins meant nothing when deciding between Davis and USD.

[Monymony]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

True. But next year that Oregon and SDSu game could help us get a better seed as losing to FBS teams doesn’t punish you much and losing to a top 3 team won’t hurt much.

[BleedingBLue]

I think overall the committee did a good job. Yes, Idaho and UIW might have been swapped. And NAU in vs Stony Brook or Southern Utah is iffy but NAU has a five game winning streak and their 4 losses are ALL to seeded teams or FBS. This is pretty darn good. I really can't complain overall. I got 23 out of 24 teams - missed NAU. I thought they would punish them more due to only 7 D1 wins. Stony Brook was punished for losing yesterday and a weak SOS. Overall, I like their selections and the brackets. It is really hard work. 16 teams on the bubble for 5 spots.

The thing I find most interesting was the fact the commitee ordered these teams in nearly identical order to the Stats poll, yet the poll wasn't supposed to be part of the factors this year. The next thing I find interesting is that the 4 CAA teams that got in were all 9-16 seeds, yet not one was deserving of a top 8 seed? I think the committee did less work on this bracket than you, me, Sam Herder and everyone else who put time into their predictions and prognostications throughout the year. I do believe all the right teams got in, but I do believe the seeding should have been different.

Well, yeah. Not one of the CAA teams deserved a seed. I think that was pretty clear. Richmond has that really bad loss to Wofford combined with a super weak SOS. Rhody doesn't have any good wins & also a really weak SOS. So that makes sense. But I'm not sure you can put an undefeated CAA champ behind a 4 loss gris team...

Richmond was undefeated in conference play in what people still consider the 3rd best conference in the country (and the commitee said as much with their bids today). Their bad loss is no worse than UIW's bad loss to SIU, and Richmond only had 1 FCS loss. Mercer doesn't have a ranked win at this point, so I'd argue Richmond was more deserving than them, and Mercer's bad loss was ugly. Richmond has the best win of them, Mercer and UIW as well over Delaware.

[BFcatfan]

Knew UM was going to be #14 as soon as they showed that game on ESPN 2 Then they'll get smashed at SDSU. Love it.

I wouldn’t write them into round 2. Tennessee St is going to make them earn it

Agreed, it’s night in Zoo town but they are far better than Weber.. they very easily could lose

[BFcatfan]

One thing we’ve already talked about but massive, massive kudos to Leon for finding a D1 to play after the SFA cancellation. You know they might have pulled some bs if they had a D2 on the resume. 12-0 against D1 gave them no options.

Very much agree with this

[BFcatfan]

Roads were closed between here and home. Saw the email to the Brick and told wife let’s go. Didn’t have to twist her arm very hard. I’ve watched many of these on TV so this was huge and fun for us. Also decided to spend another night in town because of roads, so going to see a Basketball game tonight. Great time to be a Bobcat fan

[tetoncat]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

Then my question would be how their SOS is high if no top teams other than NDSU and SDSU?

[ClowderUp]

Richmond got screwed. I still think there's a pretty good chance we see them in Bozeman.

[BleedingBLue]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

Then my question would be how their SOS is high if no top teams other than NDSU and SDSU?

That's a damn good question. Northern State (DII), Northern Iowa, Youngstown, Murray State, Indiana State certainly couldn't have helped. I'd guess Wisconsin and the DSUs pushed it up. Pretty wild you win 1 of 3 games that bumped your SOS way up and somehow that makes you top 4.

[tetoncat]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

LOL, yeah, only one ranked win. Of course, it was the #1 team. And we've been saying all year that theres a BIG gap between the Top 3 and everyone else.

And they finished #4 anyway...knocked off the #1 team and it didn't change their rank at all. Their reward for beating the Bizen is that they get to go to Bozeman.

LOL. The committee did a number on the Yotes.

I bet they would rather play Cats than play NDSU or SDSU in semis. Something about playing someone new.

[onceacat]

I think what we learned is how important SOS is. You need a tough non-conference schedule to get seeded highly unless you go undefeated.

Most important thing is wins. SOS high with 4 losses doesn't help ask all those teams that schedule 2 FBS games.

It helped USD who had 8 DI wins and 1 ranked win. Didn't have another win one could even consider a quality win.

Then my question would be how their SOS is high if no top teams other than NDSU and SDSU?

Becasue playing the #1 and #3 teams in the country, plus a power 5 team in your OOC will do wonders for your SOS. Also, they have a win over playoff team Drake.

Thats a pretty decent schedule in anyones book.

And they have wins over Indiana St, UND, and Youngstown, all of which would be playoff bubble teams if they played in a lesser conference.