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Cats Vrs Northern Mt.

Post by mslacat » Fri Dec 17, 2004 8:59 pm

At the half the cats havre a 48 to 27 lead the leading scores are..... Jefferson w/ 11 pts and Casey Durham w/ 14pts. Dissley scored 7 strait points. The Cats onley suited up 9 players.

Well my wife is swearing in the living room .... I need to go make fun of her and her sister!


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Post by MSU01 » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:29 pm

Cats win 81-70...MSU went up approx. 60-30 early in the second but then decided to stop guarding MSUN's shooters. 25 for Jefferson tonight, he's looking very good.



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Post by BelgradeBobcat » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:31 pm

Maybe the best way to get Durham to turn the basketball fortunes around at MSU is to cut his recruiting budget? Corey Brothers, true freshman from Havre, Montana rained down upon us tonight. He made Dissly look a little silly a couple of times in the second half. With a bevy of scholarships available-why didn't we sign that kid? Not every D-1 calibre high school basketball player in this state has to come from Bozeman High.

The lead balooned to 30 or close to it, and then Northern really got hot, and MSU phoned it in and thus the 11 point margin of victory. Jefferson had a big game with 25 points plus creating lots of steals and general havoc.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I would like to see Taylor Pratt and Marvin Moss on the floor at the same time a little bit. Moss is our starting center, Pratt is our backup right now. It would seem advantageous to move Moss back to his natural 4 spot once in a while. Pratt sure seems to do a lot more for us when he's in there compared to Dennis Woodall. Pratt is long, he blocks shots, alters shots, and rebounds. He's not real polished offensively, but Moss can take care of that.

Tonight was the smallest crowd I've seen in the Fieldhouse since I was a little kid during the heady days of Rich Juarez. The men's program better watch it or the women's team is going to start out drawing them.

Now let me apologize to all the Durham apologists out there-I'm only offering constructive critism-and you're probably right-I don't know what I'm talking about.



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Post by mslacat » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:26 pm

Belgrade and/or anyone else who was at the Game:
In the first half Casey Durham seemed to be playing a fantastic game for the cats. The last couple of years I thought Casey would be a coaches son walk-on who would be a role player in his JR and SR year, but he has had a couple good games as a freshman. Was it the compitition or could we have a future player here.
Also about Corey Brothers; over the radio the anouncer (the guy who's name is not Bruce Alexander) said that Durham was monitoring Brothers all last year and came real close to signing him. I bet he is wondering now if he should have!


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Post by MSU01 » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:31 pm

Durham has surprised me a lot...I wasn't expecting anything more than a token coach's kid walk-on benchwarmer but he belongs out there on the floor. Great shooter, pretty decent ball-handler and one-on-one defender. I'd say he and Brothers were pretty comparable. IMO Durham could definitely be a D-1 caliber starting PG eventually if he keeps improving.



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Post by BelgradeBobcat » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:53 pm

Casey Durham has surprised me this year. He's a really streaky shooter-as he was in high school, he's a real pest on defense, and he has a cocky-confidence that could serve him well. I would imagine a lot of opposing fans will try real hard to get inside his head on road games-I've heard that was a problem sometimes for him in high school.

Brothers really made a statement tonight, Durham should have taken him.



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Post by MSU88 » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:16 pm

Belgrade Bobcat:

Do you really think that Brothers is better than Dissly? Come on. What did Brothers do in the first half when things counted?

And Pratt at the #4? Woodall and Durr are doing a great job, especially defensively. With all the shooters we have someone has to play on the defensive end. Moss is doing well at the #5.....better than Towlsey has in two years. The lineup and substituions that Mick is using the past two games has given the team some spunk, especially in the 1st half. MSU-N just got hot in the last 10 minutes and we were shooting bad shots.



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Post by BelgradeBobcat » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:11 pm

MSU88 wrote:Belgrade Bobcat:

Do you really think that Brothers is better than Dissly? Come on. What did Brothers do in the first half when things counted?

And Pratt at the #4? Woodall and Durr are doing a great job, especially defensively. With all the shooters we have someone has to play on the defensive end. Moss is doing well at the #5.....better than Towlsey has in two years. The lineup and substituions that Mick is using the past two games has given the team some spunk, especially in the 1st half. MSU-N just got hot in the last 10 minutes and we were shooting bad shots.
I never said Brothers was better than Dissly. Brothers did have Dissly all turned around a couple of times though. I'd like to have both of them. When all our junior college guys go out it would be nice to bring a kid along in the program with some experience.

Pratt would be at 5 and Moss at his natural 4 spot. Woodall played better last night, but he's not had a great senior season so far. Last night was his first game where he scored a 2 point field goal this season!



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Post by MSU88 » Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:13 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote:
MSU88 wrote:Belgrade Bobcat:

Do you really think that Brothers is better than Dissly? Come on. What did Brothers do in the first half when things counted?

And Pratt at the #4? Woodall and Durr are doing a great job, especially defensively. With all the shooters we have someone has to play on the defensive end. Moss is doing well at the #5.....better than Towlsey has in two years. The lineup and substituions that Mick is using the past two games has given the team some spunk, especially in the 1st half. MSU-N just got hot in the last 10 minutes and we were shooting bad shots.
I never said Brothers was better than Dissly. Brothers did have Dissly all turned around a couple of times though. I'd like to have both of them. When all our junior college guys go out it would be nice to bring a kid along in the program with some experience.

Pratt would be at 5 and Moss at his natural 4 spot. Woodall played better last night, but he's not had a great senior season so far. Last night was his first game where he scored a 2 point field goal this season!
What do you think of the job Durr is doing? Should he play behind Dissly at the #3 or split time at the #4. I saw him play several times in HS and he was a great player and was incredibily unselfish. What do you see as his role this year?



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Post by BelgradeBobcat » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:23 pm

I really wish Durr could have been redshirted last year. I love that we have a Class C guy on the team-but that's a pretty big jump from Class C to D-1 without a redshirt year.

He has a tough time defending when he's at the 4-I just don't think he's strong enough. I think Durham puts Durr at the 4 because it sort of worked last year with Faaborg, and Durr and Faaborg's games seem similar.

I'd also like to see him use the glass when he's on the angle with his 15ft jumper-but using the glass is a bit of a lost art.

Durham likes to put smaller guys at bigger positions, I'd like to see bigger guys at smaller positions-i.e. Dissly at the 2 and Durr at the 3.

Northern Colorado tomorrow-they lost by 18 or so at Utah last night.



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Post by MSU88 » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:44 pm

BelgradeBobcat wrote:I really wish Durr could have been redshirted last year. I love that we have a Class C guy on the team-but that's a pretty big jump from Class C to D-1 without a redshirt year.

He has a tough time defending when he's at the 4-I just don't think he's strong enough. I think Durham puts Durr at the 4 because it sort of worked last year with Faaborg, and Durr and Faaborg's games seem similar.

I'd also like to see him use the glass when he's on the angle with his 15ft jumper-but using the glass is a bit of a lost art.

Durham likes to put smaller guys at bigger positions, I'd like to see bigger guys at smaller positions-i.e. Dissly at the 2 and Durr at the 3.

Northern Colorado tomorrow-they lost by 18 or so at Utah last night.
You and I are on the same page there.....Dissly at the #2. I think Durr would be a wonderful #3 and should play at the same time as Dissly. They work well together....I would like to see this also....but do not think we will. Mick's #2's have to be able to play the point as well (I have been told) I have thought Durr has played very well defensively the past couple games.....you think otherwise? He screens and passes well. He needs to shoot more. He is struggling some, but he only takes a couple of shots per game. He was a great outside shooter in high school even though he played most of those games with his back to the basket.
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Post by velochat » Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:11 am

I'm also surprised, but Casey looks like a D-1 player to me. Very quick and nice shot. Durr looks OK against slow guys, but he really gets burned by quicker players from what I've seen. I don't see him ever starting, but will be a good role player and situational player.

The Cats guards took the ball away from MSU-N at will until they stopped trapping. They need to challenge the 3 point shot more, though. I think getting burned by the Lights at the end of the game taught them to work harder against the Bears. The Bears got 15 3's, but most of them were contested and they had to work to get open, unlike the Lights who were allowed to throw them up with no resistance. It sure was looking like a shooter's gym this weekend!



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Post by MSU88 » Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:17 pm

Velochat:

Why did you think Carson Durr played poorly? His role as a #4 is to defend, rebound and how about the assists he gives to our 3-point shooters? Just because he does not shoot the ball all the time does not mean he is poor. As you mentioned he is a role player and is very unselfish. He also took a big charge in the second half and should have gotten another in the first half - bad call.



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Post by velochat » Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:45 pm

I don't know if he played poorly, but I thought he got out quicked defensively by others on the floor. Might be from comparing him to the other Bobcats who are all extremely quick. It's more that he was the only one I didn't notice playing really well.



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