Its Official McGillis not Coming to MSU

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:35 pm

Jack got the call from Durham last night. He will not be offerd a scholarship to play for the Cats. He was committed to play for Durham but I guess the feeling was not mutual.

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:37 pm

Since he is committed to playing in state it looks like the Griz will get a very good HS player.

VictorG · Post by **VictorG** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:39 pm

gtapp wrote:Since he is committed to playing in state it looks like the Griz will get a very good HS player.

Why is it that your news always makes me so happy?

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:07 pm

VictorG wrote:
gtapp wrote:Since he is committed to playing in state it looks like the Griz will get a very good HS player.
Why is it that your news always makes me so happy?

Probably because your such a happy guy. What could a Griz fan possibly be happy about? Men's team going to the NCAA tournament, Girls Team wins the Big Sky for the 100 straight time and griz football plays in National Champ game.

But our Tennis team can kick your ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:17 pm

Damn you Durham. Why the hell would you pass up on McGillis? Mick better sign Craddock and Magnusson, Nixon or Hasquet or I will be pissed off. I wonder if this is the reason why the Cats havent won a Big Sky Conference tourney game in five years.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:30 pm

gtapp, where did you get this information?

gtapp · Post by **gtapp** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:31 am

longhorn_22 wrote:gtapp, where did you get this information?

McGillis was over at a friends house in Missoula Tuesday night when he got the call. The friend told a relative who told me. "Longhorn"? Are you a Fort Benton grad?

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:59 am

longhorn_22 wrote:Damn you Durham. Why the hell would you pass up on McGillis? Mick better sign Craddock and Magnusson, Nixon or Hasquet or I will be pissed off. I wonder if this is the reason why the Cats havent won a Big Sky Conference tourney game in five years.

Just a guess but I would guess
David Cernin 6-3 pt-2g Oregon has commited MSU
Again just conjector
.
Nixon commited to a D-2 school
I think McGillis was ahead of Magnusson
If we sign Hasquet I will scratch my head

I think we have a very good chance with Craddock if Durham gets on him right now! If he waits other programs will move in we have an advantage right now. BTW Signing Craddock should / would not effect what we will/would do with McGillis.

Another note with Magnusson that I just thought of. Magnusson played 3 years with 6-8 Darin Mahoney he was being recruited by Utah, Utah State and Peperdine. I heard that Utah and USU got commitment from a big so he is back looking. A Package deal?

mthoops · Post by **mthoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:48 am

Nothing's official until you read about it in the newspaper, and even then, you can never be sure. Especially in the Daily Chronicle. All I can tell you, is that there are some very interesting/exciting things going on with McGillis right now. Don't count anyone out. Durham has some decisions to make, chances are he will make the wrong one. Even if he made the right one, I don't know if McGillis is turned on to the Cats like he once may have been. One thing I can tell you is that Durham has not been Truthful in his recruiting, In Fact: He flat out Lied at one point, which isn't very kosher. Is McGillis better than C. Durham...YES, Is McGillis better than Durr...YES, Is McGillis better than Dissly...YES, Is he better than Full-Ride Faaborge...HELL YES! We will see what happens, but Ya'll remember the name Jack McGillis in Bobcat Country, because it just may be a name that haunts you in a few years.....(To Be Continued)

hokeyfine · Post by **hokeyfine** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:33 am

yah, krysko lied in his recruiting to. these dang coaches, can't trust any of them, their all liars. yawn

mthoops · Post by **mthoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:47 am

hokeyfine wrote:yah, krysko lied in his recruiting to. these dang coaches, can't trust any of them, their all liars. yawn

To a Montana kid? How so?

HeHateGriz · Post by **HeHateGriz** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:02 am

So, coaches can lie to the out-of-state kids and that's OK?

Hoops, you should get a job in PR as you have been a one-man media blitz for McGillis. Poetic justice for you would be that he comes back to single-handedly beat the Cats while dropping 35 points on them. Time will tell. Mick gets to pick his own players, the homecoming queen gets to pick who she dates. When you grow up and get to be the boss, you can choose your employees.

Good luck to Jack - however your constant, biased rantings in favor of this great white hope (better than every MT kid on the roster -- better than Dissly???) has turned me off (and many of the members here, too). Sincere best wishes to your brother/nephew/son/second cousin twice removed for a great D-1 career.

mthoops · Post by **mthoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:15 am

HeHateGriz wrote:So, coaches can lie to the out-of-state kids and that's OK?

Hoops, you should get a job in PR as you have been a one-man media blitz for McGillis. Poetic justice for you would be that he comes back to single-handedly beat the Cats while dropping 35 points on them. Time will tell. Mick gets to pick his own players, the homecoming queen gets to pick who she dates. When you grow up and get to be the boss, you can choose your employees.

Good luck to Jack - however your constant, biased rantings in favor of this great white hope (better than every MT kid on the roster -- better than Dissly???) has turned me off (and many of the members here, too). Sincere best wishes to your brother/nephew/son/second cousin twice removed for a great D-1 career.

I don't think that I've hidden the fact of my bias toward McGillis since day one. I'm glad you can speak for everyone on the board. I'm sorry if saying that McGillis is better than Dissly has pissed you off, BUT I am very confident in that statement.

iaafan · Post by **iaafan** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:56 am

McGillis isn't in Dissly's (or Dhouly's) league athletically. But that's not his biggest problem because very few are. Still he has the tools to be a good BSC player (35 pts a game?). His big snag is that he has a hard time staying focused in critical situations and can be a huge drain on the rest of the team. He doesn't have the talent to overcome that big pitfall and it is more apt to haunt him than he is to haunt any BSC teams.

I saw him play in 6-7 games this year and he looked remarkable in some, but in two games, both losses (one to Butte, one to Capital), he played like someone most coaches will avoid. He was pouting and lost focus in both games, shot poorly. When he gets frustrated he begins to foul, or he fouls and gets frustrated. He can't take a call against him. It all seems to snowball and he isn't able to mentally collect himself. Coaches see this stuff and do not want it. He is probably well aware of all this, which can be good if he is committed to working on it or it could be real bad in that he hasn't been able to make progress with it.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:16 pm

McGillis = Crizwell

As a Bobcat fan I hope this is not true!
As a Hellgate and Montana Native %#@&*)&%$@$#$

mthoops · Post by **mthoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:43 pm

iaafan wrote:McGillis isn't in Dissly's (or Dhouly's) league athletically. But that's not his biggest problem because very few are. Still he has the tools to be a good BSC player (35 pts a game?). His big snag is that he has a hard time staying focused in critical situations and can be a huge drain on the rest of the team. He doesn't have the talent to overcome that big pitfall and it is more apt to haunt him than he is to haunt any BSC teams.

I saw him play in 6-7 games this year and he looked remarkable in some, but in two games, both losses (one to Butte, one to Capital), he played like someone most coaches will avoid. He was pouting and lost focus in both games, shot poorly. When he gets frustrated he begins to foul, or he fouls and gets frustrated. He can't take a call against him. It all seems to snowball and he isn't able to mentally collect himself. Coaches see this stuff and do not want it. He is probably well aware of all this, which can be good if he is committed to working on it or it could be real bad in that he hasn't been able to make progress with it.

Yes, he did have subpar performances in two losses this season. The Capital game, he did show frustration, Which you have pointed out in several of your posts. I think you referred to it as "pouting". He did grow from that though, Very much. In the Butte game, I don't think he showed frustration. He didn't have the greatest game, but he definitely did not pout and held his head high during the loss.

For You to say that McGillis can't handle critical situations and he folds under pressure in big games. Well, let's first take the Bozeman game in Bozeman. Which at the time was the biggest game in AA this year (1st in West vs 1st in East). McGillis scored 4 points in the first half. Hellgate was down by 9 at halftime. McGillis completely took over the game in the second half scoring 19, finishing with 23 and single handedly winning the "Big game" for Hellgate. Or how about the biggest game of the year...State Championship. McGillis had 2 first half points. West led at half. McGillis had 14 second half points and went on a clutch 8 straight point spree to pull them ahead in the fourth. He was credited by teammates and sports writers for bringing Hellgate back and winning the game in a "Critical Situation". Folding under Pressure???

Lastly, to say that McGillis isn't in Dissly's league athletically, is completely acenine. Tim Hauck regarded McGillis as the Grizzly's "athletic recruit" this year, with the biggest athleticism upside of anyone on the team. McGillis is one of the best all-around pure Athletes to come out of Montana in a while. That is not biass. That is common knowledge.

wbtfg · Post by **wbtfg** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:55 pm

mthoops wrote:
iaafan wrote:McGillis isn't in Dissly's (or Dhouly's) league athletically. But that's not his biggest problem because very few are. Still he has the tools to be a good BSC player (35 pts a game?). His big snag is that he has a hard time staying focused in critical situations and can be a huge drain on the rest of the team. He doesn't have the talent to overcome that big pitfall and it is more apt to haunt him than he is to haunt any BSC teams.

I saw him play in 6-7 games this year and he looked remarkable in some, but in two games, both losses (one to Butte, one to Capital), he played like someone most coaches will avoid. He was pouting and lost focus in both games, shot poorly. When he gets frustrated he begins to foul, or he fouls and gets frustrated. He can't take a call against him. It all seems to snowball and he isn't able to mentally collect himself. Coaches see this stuff and do not want it. He is probably well aware of all this, which can be good if he is committed to working on it or it could be real bad in that he hasn't been able to make progress with it.
Yes, he did have subpar performances in two losses this season. The Capital game, he did show frustration, Which you have pointed out in several of your posts. I think you referred to it as "pouting". He did grow from that though, Very much. In the Butte game, I don't think he showed frustration. He didn't have the greatest game, but he definitely did not pout and held his head high during the loss.

For You to say that McGillis can't handle critical situations and he folds under pressure in big games. Well, let's first take the Bozeman game in Bozeman. Which at the time was the biggest game in AA this year (1st in West vs 1st in East). McGillis scored 4 points in the first half. Hellgate was down by 9 at halftime. McGillis completely took over the game in the second half scoring 19, finishing with 23 and single handedly winning the "Big game" for Hellgate. Or how about the biggest game of the year...State Championship. McGillis had 2 first half points. West led at half. McGillis had 14 second half points and went on a clutch 8 straight point spree to pull them ahead in the fourth. He was credited by teammates and sports writers for bringing Hellgate back and winning the game in a "Critical Situation". Folding under Pressure???

Lastly, to say that McGillis isn't in Dissly's league athletically, is completely acenine. Tim Hauck regarded McGillis as the Grizzly's "athletic recruit" this year, with the biggest athleticism upside of anyone on the team. McGillis is one of the best all-around pure Athletes to come out of Montana in a while. That is not biass. That is common knowledge.

I also remember Washington recruiting Dissly as a football player after only one year of playing because of his athleticism.

Let's compare

Dissly: Full Ride bball offers in bball from UM and MSU. Montana player of the year.
McGillis: No bball offers for freshman year from MSU or UM

McGillis: Partial football scholarship offer from the Griz
Dissly: Scholarship offers from Pac-10 schools.

I'm not saying that Dissly is a better athlete, because I have never seen McGillis, but when you compare the two it looks like Dis has the upper hand.

mthoops · Post by **mthoops** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:08 pm

Dissly is one hell of an athlete, And so is McGillis. I'm saying they are in the same League...responding to people that say they're not. The difference between them is that Dissly was pretty developed athletically going into his senior year of High School...McGillis's development has only begun. That is why the Montana schools were hesitant in the beginning. I do think that McGillis is and will be a better basketball player than Dissly.

mslacat · Post by **mslacat** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:44 pm

OK folks I am not the most gifted writer! I am at my best when I can end a sentence
with a line about how many points and rebounds some one averaged so please for give
me....

I am bummed McGillis may not coming to MSU, on a lot of levels I have invested time
in this Hellgate Knight. Some of you like MtHoops and others may be aware of some
investment I have had, some may not. Maybe at some time I will share with you folks. I
wanted to see a very deserving kid get a chance to play D-1 ball, and I hoped he would
be able to join the Bobcats. As Bummed as I may feel, I know for some of you, it really
does not compare. While I am a Hellgate Alumni, I have never met Mr. McGillis, and a
lot of you know him a lot better and the emotional connection is stronger. I think we all
need to recognize this and understand that all of these comparisons to this and that player
mean nothing at this point, and only tend to cut deep into raw feelings at this point. Jack
has unlimited potential, just recognize that! He is a high school player that will make his
own mark on the D-1 landscape. Right now, today, feeling are raw if you are a Dissly,
Durr, or McGillis fan/friend I really think that the comparisons are getting too personal,
lets accept that McGillis will become a D-1 player we will be able to evaluate him at a
later point. Durham may have or not made a mistake and we will hold him responsible.
Things are a little personal right now.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:50 pm

gtapp wrote:
longhorn_22 wrote:gtapp, where did you get this information?
McGillis was over at a friends house in Missoula Tuesday night when he got the call. The friend told a relative who told me. "Longhorn"? Are you a Fort Benton grad?

I am a senior at Billings West going to MSU this fall.