Lulay

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:39 pm

Where do you think that Lulay will be drafted next year (if at all)?

I'm pretty sure if Travis remains consistant throughout 2005 and he puts up good numbers and stays healthy, he could be drafted pretty high. Not to compare talent by any means, but as a I-AA comparison, he reminds me of Alex Smith of Utah. They both have good arms and are quite mobile. Lulay (6'2") and Smith (6'4") both have pretty good height and speed as well.

Another player that could go pretty high is offensive lineman Jeff Bolton.

MSU01 · Post by **MSU01** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:44 pm

To be honest, I don't see Lulay as anything more than maybe a 6th or 7th round pick, and most likely as an undrafted FA. He doesn't have the size that the NFL people like, nor does he have great arm strength. Bolton could definitely be a fairly high pick though if he has a good year.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:53 pm

MSU01 wrote:To be honest, I don't see Lulay as anything more than maybe a 6th or 7th round pick, and most likely as an undrafted FA. He doesn't have the size that the NFL people like, nor does he have great arm strength. Bolton could definitely be a fairly high pick though if he has a good year.

Drew Brees is 6'0", Jake Delhomme 6'2", Brett Favre 6'2", Donovan McNabb 6'2". I could go on, but all I will say is that Lulay is still going into his senior season and he can add more muscle and possibly grow a bit taller. Even though growing taller might not be a possibility, adding muscle and experience are.

Post by **SonomaCat** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:10 pm

It seems pretty rare for any 1-AA quarterback to be drafted anywhere but in the very late rounds, and there have been some very highly touted ones through the years. If Lulay could get drafted, it would be a huge accomplishment. This isn't a slight to him, but just setting realistic expectations.

You do tend to see more of the big body guys (OL in particular) coming from the smaller divisions, so that's further positive momentum for Bolton getting drafted fairly high if he has a good season.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:15 pm

Bay Area Cat wrote:It seems pretty rare for any 1-AA quarterback to be drafted anywhere but in the very late rounds, and there have been some very highly touted ones through the years. If Lulay could get drafted, it would be a huge accomplishment. This isn't a slight to him, but just setting realistic expectations.

You do tend to see more of the big body guys (OL in particular) coming from the smaller divisions, so that's further positive momentum for Bolton getting drafted fairly high if he has a good season.

I agree totally. I do have high expectations for Lulay and I can see him going probably as high as the 6th round. If he does not get drafted, though, I do expect him to get signed as a FA. And as for Bolton, I hope he has a great year and becomes drafted much like Roos of EWU was this year.

profisme · Post by **profisme** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:27 am

I also have high hopes for Travis being drafted. I do believe though, that Bolton is projected to be a Guard not a Tackle. Bolton is an NFL-caliber guard, so why not use him as a guard? We have a more than serviceable tackle in Peder Jensen opposite of Joe Hirst. Both of these guys are quicker than Bolton and why not utilize Bolton in the position that he is best suited for?

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:02 am

profisme wrote:I also have high hopes for Travis being drafted. I do believe though, that Bolton is projected to be a Guard not a Tackle. Bolton is an NFL-caliber guard, so why not use him as a guard? We have a more than serviceable tackle in Peder Jensen opposite of Joe Hirst. Both of these guys are quicker than Bolton and why not utilize Bolton in the position that he is best suited for?

Bolton playing out of position at Tackle will not help his chances to be drafted.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:07 am

BobcatLionFan wrote:Bolton playing out of position at Tackle will not help his chances to be drafted.

Or does it show his versatility to play multiple positions and help the team out in any way possible?

El_Gato · Post by **El_Gato** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:14 am

This is no swipe at Travis, but even if his #'s this season are bigger/better than last, I can't see a team spending a draft pick on him. It's just extremely rare for 1AA QB's to score out that high; especially one whose size is average at best.

BTW, WHO CARES???

I'm simply looking forward to #14's senior season. It should be memorable...

GO CATS! FTG!

BobcatLionFan · Post by **BobcatLionFan** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:29 am

Cat Pride wrote:
BobcatLionFan wrote:Bolton playing out of position at Tackle will not help his chances to be drafted.
Or does it show his versatility to play multiple positions and help the team out in any way possible?

The pros don't draft on versatility if it's at positions at they could never play at the NFL level. More likely a FA signee unless he crushes people next year (which he could). But if he gets beat at Oklahoma State by a fast DE at tackle, it's FA time.

CelticCat · Post by **CelticCat** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:36 am

As much as I love Lulay, he has a very minimal shot of getting drafted. He has a plenty strong arm I think, but not near accurate enough.

I think he'll get signed somewhere, and have a chance to compete for a backup job, and maybe eventually have his shot in a game, but I would bet money he will not get drafted.

bronco · Post by **bronco** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:17 pm

I guess what has surprised me the most is his toughness. He's taken some very tough hits and bounces up. I don't think he's been injured in his career...has he?

HelenaCat · Post by **HelenaCat** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:26 pm

Bronco: I agree-Trav is one of the toughest QBs I have ever seen play. He takes more hits than most and always bounces back. Other than the Portland State game last year when he sat out a few plays, but came back in the second half for a miracle finish, I don't believe he has even missed a play.

I also disgree with a previous post on Travis's accuarcy. I would have agreed before last year, but last year thru most of the season, he was deadly accurate. That was the big area of improvement in Travis last year. If he improves as much this year as he did last year, we could be in for something really special.

I should also say the same about Oches' toughness. That was certainly the question mark on him when he came to um, but he showed last year that he is also tougher than given credit for. I still believe that um will miss him more than most friz fans care to admit. He was the difference last year for um in most of their wins.

longhorn_22 · Post by **longhorn_22** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:48 pm

Ochs did get knocked out of the Cat-Griz game in Bozeman two years ago.

HelenaCat · Post by **HelenaCat** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:00 pm

I did not mean that Oches had never been knocked out of a game-just that he also impressed me last year as being tougher than many gave him credit for. I saw a few um games and he took some hard shots, especially early in the season, and he came back for more each time. Overall, though, Travis is certainly one of the toughest QBs I have ever seen.

Cat Pride · Post by **Cat Pride** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:12 pm

longhorn_22 wrote:Ochs did get knocked out of the Cat-Griz game in Bozeman two years ago.

And came back... I'd never question Ochs toughness, durability yes, toughness NO

catatac · Post by **catatac** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:53 pm

Yes, the Portland State hit is the only time I ever remember Travis leaving a game due to injury. When he came back in I couldn't help but think of what went on with the coaches and trainers - like that Boxer commercial running now. Kramer - "Okay, what's your name?" Lulay - "Bob". Kramer - "Close enough - he's good to go guys!".

cat_man_08 · Post by **cat_man_08** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:01 pm

I think that Lulay will not get drafted just because og being from a 1-AA school. When getting signed though I think that he will win a roster spot and has the possibility of being a very good back-up. Who knows maybe somebody ahead of him will go down and Lulay starts winning games and maybe Super Bowls like Tom Brady. It's just a thought but at Lulay has always worked hard at MSU throughout his 4 yrs and I wouldn't expect anything to change once the season is over with.

Cat Grad · Post by **Cat Grad** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:15 pm

cm 8--love your number, because I think it's the key as to how far the Cats go this year and how much of a look Lulay, Bolton and a couple of others get draft day next year. Hope the owner of that number is still working his ass off and quits closing his eyes when he gets hit...

MSUcantouchus · Post by **MSUcantouchus** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:52 pm

I would like to know what a 1-aa QB would have to too to be considered one of the best in a draft or at par with other solid 1-a QBs? It almost seems to me that nothing would do that. He could do it all and still people would say "but he did it against weak competion."

Am I wrong that in general 1-aa players get little to no respect at least in regards to them ever being 1st round talent.

I know there have been a couple in the past, but they are few and far between.

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