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Early NFL Scouting Reports- D1-AA

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:50 pm
by GOKATS
I got this info off the AGS site. These are early NFL Scouting reports from the Official NFL Scouting Services- Blesto and National.

Lulay- top 10 QB- 5th Round Grade
J. Bolton- 7th Round Grade

Others being scouted include:

Gatewood
Domenick
Mollohan
Grenfell
Murray
Wolf
D. Rogers

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:12 pm
by wbtfg
wold???? am i missing something?

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:14 pm
by GOKATS
I fixed it, must be getting close to beer time- I had to edit my typos twice.

Re: Early NFL Scouting Reports- D1-AA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:17 am
by coachouert
GOKATS wrote:I got this info off the AGS site. These are early NFL Scouting reports from the Official NFL Scouting Services- Blesto and National.

Lulay- top 10 QB- 5th Round Grade
J. Bolton- 7th Round Grade

Others being scouted include:

Gatewood
Domenick
Mollohan
Grenfell
Murray
Wolf
D. Rogers
when lulay gets picked up by somebody, do you think that he will still be kept as a quarterback? he does have speed for other positions, and coming out of a DIAA school, it's tough on qb's to make it at that position. even coming out of bigger name schools, many get moved to a receiver position (ronald curry with oakland) or special teams and i know travis would do well as he does have decent speed and is obviously quite versatile as he runs all over the place passing, rushing or punting. just a quick thought as i think he would do quite well if given the chance as i think most of these guys would.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:33 am
by catatac
It probably depends on how he does this year. If he runs the offense as well as he has been and puts up the huge numbers that he should, I think a team might take him as a QB. He has that great combination of skills that NFL scouts like... Great attitude, great passer and runner, very tough very smart. I can't think of anything he lacks?

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:02 am
by HelenaCat95
Good information.
Unfortunately, it looks like Wolf may be done.
In addition, I'm not sure Grenfell will start this year. He'll get significant playing time, but Fuller is going to challenge him at SS.

Re: Early NFL Scouting Reports- D1-AA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:26 am
by BobcatLionFan
coachouert wrote: when lulay gets picked up by somebody, do you think that he will still be kept as a quarterback? he does have speed for other positions, and coming out of a DIAA school, it's tough on qb's to make it at that position. even coming out of bigger name schools, many get moved to a receiver position (ronald curry with oakland)
I don't know if comparing Ronald Curry is fair. Curry was Mister everything in High School (Basketball and Football). Oakland actually drafted him because of his High School career, not for being a QB in College. Travis is talented and has some speed, but Curry was different. Oakland used a 7th round pick on him on a whim that has worked out.

Doesn't mean he will not be a free agent at some other position, but being drafted is probably only for QB.

Kind of disappointed that Fig is not on the list. He is a player, but height might be why he did not make the list.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:27 am
by coachouert
catatac wrote:It probably depends on how he does this year. If he runs the offense as well as he has been and puts up the huge numbers that he should, I think a team might take him as a QB. He has that great combination of skills that NFL scouts like... Great attitude, great passer and runner, very tough very smart. I can't think of anything he lacks?
i'd agree with all of the above. his biggest asset is his attitude, from the start he has done nothing but win here and even when the team was down, he wouldn't let it interfere with his play. he is a natural leader, but i just think that gets looked over a lot, especially in the NFL. if he plays the way he has been though, the cats will be set and so will he.

its still a shame about wolf, here's to hoping that it's not completely over though.

Re: Early NFL Scouting Reports- D1-AA

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:32 am
by coachouert
BobcatLionFan wrote:
coachouert wrote: when lulay gets picked up by somebody, do you think that he will still be kept as a quarterback? he does have speed for other positions, and coming out of a DIAA school, it's tough on qb's to make it at that position. even coming out of bigger name schools, many get moved to a receiver position (ronald curry with oakland)
I don't know if comparing Ronald Curry is fair. Curry was Mister everything in High School (Basketball and Football). Oakland actually drafted him because of his High School career, not for being a QB in College. Travis is talented and has some speed, but Curry was different. Oakland used a 7th round pick on him on a whim that has worked out.
i completely agree that comparing curry is not fair. just happen to be both a huge oakland and carolina fan so his was the first name that popped into my mind. :D it seems to be a common theme to take a quarterback in the draft and try to convert them into something they aren't. a perfect example was the kid out of nebraska, his name is completely escaping me right now and i don't know why. just a thought, i'd like to see travis running the helm in the nfl so don't get me wrong on that point. just wondering if others thought he would fit at another position as i think a lot of scouts may see him as something other than a qb.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:50 am
by BobcatLionFan
For those interested, read about Curry sometime. Bobby Bowden calls Currey the "Best High School Football Player he has even seen" to this day.

Some of his Football totals in High School were:
8,212 pass yards and 11,519 total yards
90 career passing TDs, 74 rushing TDs, 22 Return TDs
1 of every 8 pass attemps went for a touchdown
1 of every 5 rushes went for a TD
Intercepted 8 passes his senior year (Two way starter)

Then he played a little basketball
Was a Parade and McDonald's All-American
McDonald's picked him as PLAYER OF THE YEAR
He won the McDonald's dunk contest and was game MVP

Image, in his 2nd sport, he was a National ALL-AMERICAN!!!

This was just a couple of his HS highlights. Amazing story.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:20 am
by GOKATS
Lulays HS numbers.

http://www.msubobcats.com/player_bios.p ... b&athid=24

Most QBs are natural athletes who excelled in more than 1 sport in high school and could play another skill position.

With this years OL and receiver corps I think we'll see some great numbers which hopefully will catch some attention from the pros. I wish him well.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:29 am
by mquast53000
GOKATS wrote:L
Most QBs are natural athletes who excelled in more than 1 sport in high school and could play another skill position.
I would argue that all college football players are natural athletes. I myself lettered in four sports in high school and had numerous scholarship offers for college wrestling. I hate when people think that QBs and WRs are the only “natural athletes” on the field.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:31 am
by El_Gato
Regarding Travis' play in the upcoming season, I think our running game is going to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than a year ago. If that is the case, I don't see Travis posting the #'s we saw the final month and a half of last season.

HOWEVER, I do think TL will post BETTER #'s than he did in the first half of last year, so overall, he may end up close to 2004 but I really can't see him surpassing those stats...

As much as I've enjoyed watching Big Red play and despite the faith I have in him winning games on sheer guts, I really doubt that he'll get drafted. Hopefully he'll get a shot in the pro's but I just don't see a team spending a pick on him.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:36 am
by GOKATS
mquast53000 wrote:
GOKATS wrote:L
Most QBs are natural athletes who excelled in more than 1 sport in high school and could play another skill position.
I would argue that all college football players are natural athletes. I myself lettered in four sports in high school and had numerous scholarship offers for college wrestling. I hate when people think that QBs and WRs are the only “natural athletes” on the field.
Sorry Quast, I didn't intend to imply that all football players aren't natural athletes. :oops:

I was just commenting on previous posts as to whether Lulay could be drafted and play another position.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:09 pm
by gtapp
mquast53000 wrote:
GOKATS wrote:L
Most QBs are natural athletes who excelled in more than 1 sport in high school and could play another skill position.
I would argue that all college football players are natural athletes. I myself lettered in four sports in high school and had numerous scholarship offers for college wrestling. I hate when people think that QBs and WRs are the only “natural athletes” on the field.
Tractor Pulling is not a Sport!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait, you went to Excelsior HS didn't you!

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:09 pm
by BobcatLionFan
mquast53000 wrote:
GOKATS wrote:L
Most QBs are natural athletes who excelled in more than 1 sport in high school and could play another skill position.
I would argue that all college football players are natural athletes. I myself lettered in four sports in high school and had numerous scholarship offers for college wrestling. I hate when people think that QBs and WRs are the only “natural athletes” on the field.
That's a great new subject, how sports are changing. For the most part, multi-sport lettermen at big high schools (2,000 students or more) are disappearing. That there is so much presure to play a sport year round to get that Div I scholarship that players are being discouraged to play the multiple sports (unless it serves a purpose (i.e. Football and wrestling seem to leverage off each other).
If a kid does not go to all the camps and play on competitive teams in their "BEST" sport, they are at what appears to be a disadvantage in getting that scholarship (especially to large schools). You have to be noticed.

But I agree, a large number of players from OL to DL, to LB, and on and on are athelites at this level. Being big or strong just isn't enough. You have to be fast and quick and atheltic to star. Take the OL as an example, Bolton, Hirst, and Jensen were all multi-sport stars.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:28 pm
by mquast53000
BobcatLionFan wrote:That's a great new subject, how sports are changing. For the most part, multi-sport lettermen at big high schools (2,000 students or more) are disappearing. That there is so much presure to play a sport year round to get that Div I scholarship that players are being discouraged to play the multiple sports.
My high school was about 2,500 students. There were a lot of kids that played multiple sports. There was an exception though; hockey players for the most part ONLY played hockey. Otherwise basketball, baseball, football, wrestling, track and probably some more that I have forgot always had multiple sport athletes. I think that when you see a star athlete only playing one sport there is a strong likelihood that the driving force behind that decision is the coach not the player.

Hey Gary, it is Minnetonka High School and your old high school was more likely to have tractor pulling!