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Lulay nominated for Unitas Golden Arm Award
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 7:55 am
by mslacat
Found on the net:
22 top Quarterbacks nominated for Golden Arm
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Golden Arm Foundation
CardinalSports.com
LOUISVILLE, Ky.— Twenty-two outstanding senior quarterbacks have been selected as the top candidates for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award, presented annually to the nation's top senior collegiate quarterback by the Frank Camp Chapter of the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Educational Foundation.
AP: AP
Alabama's Brodie Croyle is one of 22 initial nominees for the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award.
The nation's top senior quarterback is selected for the award from a list compiled by a select committee of football experts from across the United States. Additional candidates could be added at a later date if their performance dictates inclusion. The committee will choose five finalists plus any ties and announce the list on Oct. 19.
The 2005 recipient will be announced Nov. 30, with the award presentation to be made in Louisville on December 9 at the Clarion Conference Center.
The prestigious award bears the name of who many refer to as the finest quarterback to ever play the game of football, a University of Louisville alumnus. Established in 1987, the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award has previously honored 18 outstanding young men.
Oklahoma quarterback Jason White won the award last year. Other past recipients include Don McPherson (Syracuse, 1987), Rodney Peete (USC, 1988), Tony Rice (Notre Dame, 1989), Craig Erickson (Miami, Fla., 1990), Casey Weldon (Florida St., 1991), Gino Torretta (Miami, Fla., 1992), Charlie Ward (Florida St., 1993), Jay Barker (Alabama, 1994), Tommie Frazier (Nebraska, 1995), Danny Wuerffel (Florida, 1996), Payton Manning (Tennessee, 1997), Cade McNown (UCLA, 1998), Chris Redman (Louisville, 1999), Chris Weinke (Florida State, 2000), David Carr (Fresno State, 2001), Carson Palmer (USC, 2002) and Eli Manning (Mississippi, 2003).
2005 Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award Candidates
Brett Basanez (Northwestern)
Josh Betts (Miami, Ohio)
Kellen Clemens (Oregon)
Brodie Croyle (Alabama)
Jay Cutler (Vanderbilt)
Brett Elliott (Linfield College)
Bruce Gradowski (Toledo)
Darrell Hackney (Alabama Birmingham)
Marques Halans (Virginia)
Justin Holland (Colorado State)
Joel Klatt (Colorado)
Matt Leinart (Southern Cal)
Travis Lulay (Montana State)
Reggie McNeal (Texas A&M)
Drew Olson (UCLA)
Paul Pinegar (Fresno State)
Quinton Porter (Boston College)
Michael Robinson (Penn State)
D.J. Shockley (Georgia)
Brad Smith (Missouri)
Charlie Whitehurst (Clemson).
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:18 am
by HelenaCat
Wow!! That is impressive to be named on that kind of list as a 1-AA QB. Good luck Travis!
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:59 am
by El_Gato
No Meyer? That's interesting...
Also interesting; if a QB has NFL aspirations, I'd say he DIDN'T want to win this award. Look at the list of previous winners and there's A) only one STUD on it (Peyton Manning) and B) NO Super Bowl participant.
I've always been amazed at how poorly the "top" college QB's end up doing in the NFL. Any theories on why that is?
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:33 am
by GOKATS
El_Gato wrote: I've always been amazed at how poorly the "top" college QB's end up doing in the NFL. Any theories on why that is?
"Ryan Leaf Syndrome?"
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:24 am
by mslacat
HelenaCat wrote:Wow!! That is impressive to be named on that kind of list as a 1-AA QB. Good luck Travis!
Simply the opinion from a basketball nut. The higher level you go to the more mental the possition become. Ryan Leaf had all the talent in the world, but mentally he could not compete with other top line NFL players. On the other hand Dave Dickenson really was short on NFL talent (sorry Griz fans) despite having the mental fortitude and winning additude second to few. The NFL is so fast compared to college, margine of error is razor thin, in college you can get by being one or the other and OK at both but in the NFL you need both outstanding talent AND mental toughness.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:59 am
by SACCAT
Meyer is not a senior this year, and the award goes to the top Senior QB
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:00 am
by Nick
SACCAT wrote:Meyer is not a senior this year, and the award goes to the top Senior QB
He's
not??! 
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:00 am
by El_Gato
AHAH!
That explains it! Thanks for the clarification, SAC!
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:03 am
by WYCAT
According to the sites (3) I just visited Meyer is a senior. Let's hope he is.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:07 am
by El_Gato
When I first saw SAC's reply, my gut said Meyer was a senior as well, but I figured he must not be if he wasn't on this list.
Funny he'd be a Payton candidate but not a Unitas? Maybe it's just a clerical error...
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:08 am
by CelticCat
El_Gato wrote:No Meyer? That's interesting...
Also interesting; if a QB has NFL aspirations, I'd say he DIDN'T want to win this award. Look at the list of previous winners and there's A) only one STUD on it (Peyton Manning) and B) NO Super Bowl participant.
I've always been amazed at how poorly the "top" college QB's end up doing in the NFL. Any theories on why that is?
Carson Palmer is going to be great, and I think Eli is going to be sucessful too. David Carr is on the rise too. Even McNown is still the starter in Phoenix, I believe. I'd be happy if Lulay had the sucess of some of these guys, even Rodney Pete.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:08 am
by SACCAT
You are correct, he is a senior. Sorry EL GATO, my bad
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:11 am
by CelticCat
Also, on the site (
http://louisville.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=446951), if you click on Lulay's name, it give some screwey stats and says he is a sophomre.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:30 am
by grizhatr
Maybe Meyer doesn't have the academics requirements??
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:20 pm
by Ponycat
Meyer is a senior and Murietta is a junior.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:46 pm
by catatac
grizhatr wrote:Maybe Meyer doesn't have the academics requirements??
Candidates are nominated based on 3 criteria - talent, academics, and community service - whatever that means. Meyer must be lacking in one area, but it's probably not talent. It's scary how similar Lulay's and Meyer's stats were going into last years game. I regard them as pretty much equal talent at this point. I think Meyer's supporting cast has been a bit better throughout his carreer, therefore his numbers are a little better.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:56 pm
by mslacat
Meyers butt is not as cute as Lulays, that is why he is not on the list.
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:09 pm
by mquast53000
mslacat wrote:Meyers butt is not as cute as Lulays, that is why he is not on the list.
mslacat just because you live in Missoula doesn’t mean you have to embrace their type of lifestyle!
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:29 pm
by Grizlaw
El_Gato wrote:I've always been amazed at how poorly the "top" college QB's end up doing in the NFL. Any theories on why that is?
I've always thought at least some of it probably has to do with the offenses that are run in college football. A lot of teams that have produced some great college quarterbacks (i.e. Florida, Florida State, BYU, and McNown from UCLA) run offenses that bear no resemblance to the prototype NFL offense, and thus the QBs they produce, while successful in their systems, do not necessarily have the skill set necessary to have the same success in the pro game. It seems like most of the quarterbacks that do have early success in the NFL (e.g., Brady) came from colleges that run more of a pro-type offense.
Just my .02 worth...
Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:53 pm
by spider
Hey Celtic Cat,
Not that it really matters but McNown is out of football and Josh McCown started for the Cardinals last year. He is a former Sam Houston State quarterback.