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What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:50 pm
by catatac
If I remember correctly, none of these games had huge spreads according to the odds makers. Yet, the Cats blew out the Griz in all three. Especially the 2019 and 2022 games, I mean those games were absolute blood baths where the Cats completely dominated and overwhelmed them, looked like they could have scored as many points as they wanted. Why were those games so lopsided, an can they do it to the Griz again Saturday? I think it will be a closer game, but honestly I don't know what to think. The Griz had good or great teams in all three of those other years as well.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:58 pm
by cat_stache_fever
In their FCS history, not including neutral sites, the gwis have won 3 playoff games away from WaGwis. Might be wrong, but i don't think Big Game Bobby has won a playoff game on the road. On top of that, the gris haven't won in Bozeman since Obama was president

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:04 pm
by RyeCat
The terror this week is coming from the gris playing two not great teams at home and us having a strong Yale team that was better than they were seeded and the dumb penalties against SFA. I may be totally wrong but I think Yale would win in Wa Griz. Griz got a beat up SDSU and a USD team that was totally outmanned and coached. Yes, they did roll but I’m not sure their playoff competition has been that strong.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:08 pm
by VimSince03
RyeCat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:04 pm
The terror this week is coming from the gris playing two not great teams at home and us having a strong Yale team that was better than they were seeded and the dumb penalties against SFA. I may be totally wrong but I think Yale would win in Wa Griz. Griz got a beat up SDSU and a USD team that was totally outmanned and coached. Yes, they did roll but I’m not sure their playoff competition has been that strong.
I think both were very good football teams but playing against the Griz at home is always an uphill battle regardless of skill level. I guess we'll see how well they handle an environment where they'll have to communicate differently. Their matchup against our defensive line still exists and I'll gladly eat crow if they shut down our run game for 4 quarters.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:13 pm
by Prodigal Cat
RyeCat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:04 pm
The terror this week is coming from the gris playing two not great teams at home and us having a strong Yale team that was better than they were seeded and the dumb penalties against SFA. I may be totally wrong but I think Yale would win in Wa Griz. Griz got a beat up SDSU and a USD team that was totally outmanned and coached. Yes, they did roll but I’m not sure their playoff competition has been that strong.
Honestly I think we learned that the MVFC just was not as strong as the past few years. If the Cats had beat the Jacks in week 2 I think that would have changed the narrative the entire season but that win and their history inflated the entire conference image.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:18 pm
by iaafan
UM didn’t have much of a defense in any of those years. They had really good defenses in 2021 and 2023.

UM has a loud stadium and the seating is right up on the field. When their defense is good it’s a nightmare playing there, especially when your team isn’t used to it and no non-conference teams.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:21 pm
by SLC_Cat
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:58 pm
In their FCS history, not including neutral sites, the gwis have won 3 playoff games away from WaGwis. Might be wrong, but i don't think Big Game Bobby has won a playoff game on the road. On top of that, the gris haven't won in Bozeman since Obama was president
I think you're right in general, his road record is not great but they did beat #1 JMU on the road in the 2008 semifinals.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:25 pm
by BelligerentBobcat
I really believe that WaGriz has a huge impact, AND their defensive scheme is hard to play against if you’re not used to it. We are, fortunately, used to their defensive scheme. Our OL is better, our DL is better, and we’re playing at home. The Griz are good, but we’re better.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:30 pm
by iaafan
SLC_Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:21 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:58 pm
In their FCS history, not including neutral sites, the gwis have won 3 playoff games away from WaGwis. Might be wrong, but i don't think Big Game Bobby has won a playoff game on the road. On top of that, the gris haven't won in Bozeman since Obama was president
I think you're right in general, his road record is not great but they did beat #1 JMU on the road in the 2008 semifinals.
They were +4 turnovers, got outgained by 125 yards. Only won by 8.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:36 pm
by iaafan
BelligerentBobcat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:25 pm
I really believe that WaGriz has a huge impact, AND their defensive scheme is hard to play against if you’re not used to it. We are, fortunately, used to their defensive scheme. Our OL is better, our DL is better, and we’re playing at home. The Griz are good, but we’re better.
They’re incredibly confident considering the situation they’re in. Hauck is really high on his defense. USD isn’t especially good offensively. They were sixth in the MVFC in conference games.

The score from yesterday is pretty deceiving. Two TDs in the last 2:30 and a PR TD.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:47 pm
by SLC_Cat
iaafan wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:30 pm
SLC_Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:21 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:58 pm
In their FCS history, not including neutral sites, the gwis have won 3 playoff games away from WaGwis. Might be wrong, but i don't think Big Game Bobby has won a playoff game on the road. On top of that, the gris haven't won in Bozeman since Obama was president
I think you're right in general, his road record is not great but they did beat #1 JMU on the road in the 2008 semifinals.
They were +4 turnovers, got outgained by 125 yards. Only won by 8.
I didn't say they dominated I just said they won.

It might be his best road win ever.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:55 pm
by iaafan
SLC_Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 3:47 pm
iaafan wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:30 pm
SLC_Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:21 pm
cat_stache_fever wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 12:58 pm
In their FCS history, not including neutral sites, the gwis have won 3 playoff games away from WaGwis. Might be wrong, but i don't think Big Game Bobby has won a playoff game on the road. On top of that, the gris haven't won in Bozeman since Obama was president
I think you're right in general, his road record is not great but they did beat #1 JMU on the road in the 2008 semifinals.
They were +4 turnovers, got outgained by 125 yards. Only won by 8.
I didn't say they dominated I just said they won.

It might be his best road win ever.
I didn’t say you said that they dominated. The football bounced their way.

It is his biggest road win by a mile.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2025 5:24 pm
by SLC_Cat
Just did some quick research... Open to anyone correcting these numbers.

Grizzlies' Postseason Record away from "The Mecca" since 1980 (neutral sites games included)

3 Wins (2 of these are National Championship Games)
20 Losses (counted road loss to SHST in 2011)

Bobcats' Postseason Record away from Bobcat Stadium since 1980 (neutral sites games included)

2 Wins (1 of these is the 84 NC Game)
9 Losses

They've had plenty of more opportunities but we have nearly as many road wins as they do.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2025 2:14 pm
by BlueAndGoldNation
SLC_Cat wrote:
Sun Dec 14, 2025 5:24 pm
Just did some quick research... Open to anyone correcting these numbers.

Grizzlies' Postseason Record away from "The Mecca" since 1980 (neutral sites games included)

3 Wins (2 of these are National Championship Games)
20 Losses (counted road loss to SHST in 2011)

Bobcats' Postseason Record away from Bobcat Stadium since 1980 (neutral sites games included)

2 Wins (1 of these is the 84 NC Game)
9 Losses

They've had plenty of more opportunities but we have nearly as many road wins as they do.
Guess this really shows why home field advantage is so important! Interesting post! =D^

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:54 pm
by catatac
Are we gonna call this one a blowout? Kinda ended up that way late, but not nearly as dominant as the three years that I started this post about.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 8:07 am
by catscat
Based on this SWX headline, "Bobcats dominate Brawl rematch, beat Grizzlies 48-23 to advance to FCS title game" I think we can call it a blowout. :wink:

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:32 am
by ClowderUp
catatac wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:54 pm
Are we gonna call this one a blowout? Kinda ended up that way late, but not nearly as dominant as the three years that I started this post about.
I call it a blowout mostly to poke and prod grisllies. Many of their games claimed as blowouts we're actually very competitive until the 4th quarter. It was a pattern this year. I would have loved the scoop and a score late as a chef's kiss.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:45 am
by Prodigal Cat
ClowderUp wrote:
Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:32 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:54 pm
Are we gonna call this one a blowout? Kinda ended up that way late, but not nearly as dominant as the three years that I started this post about.
I call it a blowout mostly to poke and prod grisllies. Many of their games claimed as blowouts we're actually very competitive until the 4th quarter. It was a pattern this year. I would have loved the scoop and a score late as a chef's kiss.
Its a blow out. We are built like NDSU. They have tons of games like this. They can be close for awhile but eventually the physicality and talent difference takes hold and at some point they roll their opponents. Sometimes it happens early, others it happens late. Saturday it was the fourth. Gris First 2 possessions in the 4th were a -5yd 3 and out and a INT. They could not block the Cats anymore. Gris got 40 yards on the last drive but the game was over at that point. Cats could have stayed in attack and gotten the ball back but there was no need. 25 is a blowout and really it was 32. That was a scoop and score.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:48 am
by onceacat
Prodigal Cat wrote:
Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:45 am
ClowderUp wrote:
Mon Dec 22, 2025 9:32 am
catatac wrote:
Sun Dec 21, 2025 9:54 pm
Are we gonna call this one a blowout? Kinda ended up that way late, but not nearly as dominant as the three years that I started this post about.
I call it a blowout mostly to poke and prod grisllies. Many of their games claimed as blowouts we're actually very competitive until the 4th quarter. It was a pattern this year. I would have loved the scoop and a score late as a chef's kiss.
Its a blow out. We are built like NDSU. They have tons of games like this. They can be close for awhile but eventually the physicality and talent difference takes hold and at some point they roll their opponents. Sometimes it happens early, others it happens late. Saturday it was the fourth. Gris First 2 possessions in the 4th were a -5yd 3 and out and a INT. They could not block the Cats anymore. Gris got 40 yards on the last drive but the game was over at that point. Cats could have stayed in attack and gotten the ball back but there was no need. 25 is a blowout and really it was 32. That was a scoop and score.
And the physicality forces mistakes. Like the INT & the scoop and score & the INT dropped on 4th and long.

Check out the ESPN win probability...Even when they took the lead for a couple minutes, it was still only a 50-50 game for the Pandas. After the Dowler reception, it was lopsided for the Cats.

Re: What Happened in 2019, 2022, and 2024?

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2025 3:42 pm
by The Butcher
I guess you could call it close if you want to forget about the final 25% of the game...